11:07:30 #startmeeting Mer release management meeting 10/4/2012 11:07:30 Meeting started Tue Apr 10 11:07:30 2012 UTC. The chair is Stskeeps. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Meetings. 11:07:30 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 11:07:37 o/ 11:08:06 hi 11:09:07 so where are we at with next release: number of CVE fixes merged 11:09:13 nspr/nss upgrade 11:09:13 d 11:09:37 i'd like to ditch nss from glibc, like ubuntu and tizen does 11:09:56 libsolv has been merged, zypper upgrade around the corner 11:10:04 i'm testing sb2 2.3.48 in a seperate OBS project 11:10:20 I should be able to test OBS with sb2 too 11:10:22 Qt5 ? 11:10:26 python 2.7 11:10:29 ? 11:11:19 lbt: qt5 has gotten an update and i need to push an update from bostik's stuff 11:11:37 python 2.7 will go in after 2.3.48 as i need to be sure it's not caused by python 11:12:18 so the sb2 change - does that cause SDK issues? 11:12:21 just been away from the computer this week 11:12:27 sb2 .. no, it should on the contrary improve 11:12:50 OK - I need to look at improving the mapping flexibility there too 11:13:12 it's a high-ish hurdle to getting started 11:14:34 on my side I've been following-on the OBS packaging work from Islam with our OBS version 11:14:49 Setup a virtualised network with distributed systems; documentation of setup and config so it's easy to do regression tests. 11:15:04 Fixed some small bugs in api/webui too 11:15:33 :nod: 11:15:36 the idea is to be able to do automated deploy of OBS and then build against MDS 11:15:43 as a test case? 11:15:50 yes 11:15:52 side effect is that it's also easier to deploy 11:16:09 ie so when we use sb2 we can do test builds 11:16:25 the tricky bit will be getting coverage 11:16:38 do a mer no-use-for-build test? 11:17:00 I was thinking "build acl once" :) 11:17:07 you're not thinking big enough! 11:17:15 hehe 11:17:26 well, it'd be a useful thing to do on more HW 11:17:39 acl once, but for multiple architectures 11:17:43 yes 11:18:27 the objective is only obs install/regression initially 11:18:30 yep 11:18:43 the problem is I can't do things like Xen workers 11:18:51 or at least not easily 11:19:12 and I can't do soak tests like the ones which kill cobs workers 11:19:34 speaking of which https://build.pub.meego.com/monitor 11:19:45 no dead workers - I may have fixed it :) 11:19:59 \o/ 11:20:22 anyhow - that's been taking time just messing about setting up the infra for the virtualisation 11:20:41 but it's looking good now and I've been making commits 11:21:24 https://github.com/lbt/open-build-service/tree/lbt_master 11:22:40 speaking of OBS/projects - should we be providing named versions of Mer core in the cobs? 11:22:49 named? 11:22:52 tagged, you mean 11:22:56 yes 11:23:08 we (may) with mds2 11:23:17 depending on needs 11:23:24 I'm kinda uncertain 11:23:44 I would almost like to do it on request 11:23:44 source is easy 11:23:49 binary downloads, a little harder 11:24:07 yes - but 'supporting' building against january releases? 11:24:54 i think it'd be up to policy 11:25:00 or, come july ... supporting the march release :) 11:25:03 on a sidenote, we should consider to add Tizen targets to COBS 11:25:26 yes, I saw that ... would be a good task 11:25:27 ie, a binary import 11:27:44 * lbt adds to his TODO 11:28:22 a prjconf is in the 'gbs' tools package 11:29:15 I've also updated our release instructions over the past couple of weeks (including bz + ks now) so that should be useful. There's probably more to do on SDK, images and the like 11:29:32 yes, I'll make that visible w/o a tunnel sometime 11:31:10 so things for the next week(s) ? 11:31:39 I'm hoping to get IMG to do builds as part of CI/DBC 11:31:48 :nod: 11:32:09 we had a nasty problem with BOSS (ruote) on c.obs last week too 11:32:12 FYI 11:32:24 ran out of disk and corrupted the DB 11:32:27 eep 11:32:33 [ ] backup for BOSS? 11:32:34 :P 11:32:38 indeed 11:32:47 [ ] all backups... 11:32:56 head -> sand 11:33:05 managed to do some recovery but it was a bit scary 11:33:05 have you found phaeron's copy-project stuff yet? 11:33:22 not looked - I saw him pop up last week and expected him to be about 11:33:28 ok 11:33:46 btw, what was the ultra-show-webui problem we had? 11:34:00 on the mer-cobs? 11:34:02 yes 11:34:10 not resolved 11:34:18 ok 11:34:23 to do with internal name != external name 11:34:31 and reverse proxies and ssl 11:34:56 I was planning to erase the setup and redo it using the new packages 11:35:15 which would also clean the setup (which is now a hacky mess) 11:35:16 makes sense 11:35:40 we did find many undocumented things to tweak 11:37:13 there's another COBS meeting this afternoon/evening if you remember 11:37:30 I forgot but saw a mention earlier 11:37:32 when? 11:37:37 16 utc i think 11:38:09 ok 11:40:07 so: OBS, then IMG/DBC as my main focus. I'll try and continue the git/obs work too. 11:40:15 ok 11:40:51 let me know if you need to try anything on OBS with sb2 11:40:56 is there any high priority package updates btw that should be handled? 11:41:03 for next release 11:41:12 I'd like to have a way to test experimental OBS branches 11:41:17 that are not in review that is 11:42:39 libxcb ? 11:42:49 https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=226 11:43:22 udev? #230 11:43:24 I though someone was already doing that thus didn't touch 11:44:02 *nod* ... just browsing high prio bugs :) 11:44:04 I'm a bit confused with udev thingy probably should update the x86 adaptation and recheck after that. 11:44:23 seen the udev/systemd news? 11:44:41 I noted that udev is in systemd git now but didn't note any news 11:44:44 https://lwn.net/Articles/490413 11:44:59 oh yeah 11:45:01 i forgot to mention that 11:45:26 * lbt waits for dbus to go in there too 11:46:08 One can read along the lines that "systemd is the one and only sysinit for the future ;)" 11:46:34 one thing for discussion: SMACK support has begun to be entered into meego 1.2 11:46:41 I wonder when systemd will incorporate lua 11:46:50 and it looks to be of a kind that we might be able to utilize in Mer too 11:49:57 I'm not aware of the implications for this kind of decision 11:50:13 eg the degree to which this limits vendor choice 11:50:22 :nod: 11:50:40 vs the degree to which we say "Mer uses SMACK, deal with it" :) 11:50:54 (cf systemd) 12:00:11 Stskeeps: did I mention an issue on the DBC process to you last week ? 12:00:14 hmm? 12:00:20 if you did, i forgot 12:03:19 the DBC is run in submit order which != accept order and doesn't account for A being submitted, checked w/o B and then B being accepted before A is accepted 12:03:40 DBC is being run against "what's merged right now" 12:03:44 yes 12:03:55 that's the thing about topic branches 12:04:00 and yes, it's a risk point 12:04:17 yep - that's all ... FYI 12:05:24 OK, are we done? 12:05:37 think so 12:05:39 thank you for coming 12:05:41 #endmeeting