11:01:21 <iekku> #startmeeting Mer Bug Triage 30/4/2012
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11:01:29 <iekku> welcome all
11:01:38 <lbt> hey
11:01:43 <E-P> hi
11:01:48 <iekku> #info We'll start with the bugs: https://bugs.merproject.org/buglist.cgi?bug_severity=critical&bug_severity=major&bug_severity=normal&bug_severity=trivial&bug_severity=enhancement&bug_status=NEEDINFO&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=TRIAGEDUPSTREAM&bug_status=REOPENED&email1=need-triage&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&query_format=advanced&order=bug_id
11:02:08 <iekku> lbt, volunteering for updating the bugs?
11:02:16 <phaeron> ahoy
11:02:17 <lbt> yep
11:02:21 <iekku> thanks :)
11:02:26 <iekku> #topic  https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318 - Unsubscribe to mer-general seems broken
11:02:41 <Stskeeps> we need to change the summary to fit the actual technical problem
11:03:05 <Stskeeps> which isn't clear
11:03:20 <lbt> mails keep arriving after unsubscribe sent?
11:03:42 <Stskeeps> hmm
11:03:45 <Stskeeps> and do we know why?
11:03:50 <lbt> no
11:03:54 <lbt> and it seems fixed
11:03:56 <iekku> #info summary needs to be changed to actual technical problem, which isn't clear
11:04:07 <lbt> I'll get denise to re-test it
11:04:30 <Stskeeps> normal bug?
11:04:34 <lbt> yeah
11:04:41 <iekku> #info seems to be fixed, needs retesting
11:04:48 <iekku> #indo normal
11:04:52 <iekku> #info normal
11:05:03 <iekku> #topic https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=320 - Prevent ~/.xession-errors from being created
11:05:25 <Stskeeps> task bug, perhaps
11:05:32 <Stskeeps> and .xsession-errors
11:06:21 <iekku> #info task and .xsession-errors
11:06:34 <iekku> priority?
11:06:36 <Stskeeps> normal prio i think
11:06:42 <Stskeeps> not critical for sure
11:06:46 <lbt> what do yo mean "and .xsession-errors" ?
11:06:51 <iekku> #info normal
11:06:53 <Stskeeps> summary is wrong
11:07:09 <lbt> so it is :)
11:07:56 <lbt> I'm slightly dubious about linking this to /dev/null by default
11:08:16 <iekku> #info "and .xsession-errors" = summary needs to be changed
11:08:19 <lbt> we should definitely have some concept of product/development image that handles logging though
11:10:11 <lbt> The other thing is that the log should be empty
11:10:31 <Stskeeps> in a ideal world, yes
11:10:34 <Stskeeps> but it's rarely
11:10:34 <Stskeeps> :P
11:10:36 <lbt> so I think this is a bad bug
11:10:46 <lbt> "it's messy, hide it"
11:12:21 <lbt> my call would be to say "fix things that log to that file"
11:12:37 <Stskeeps> Xorg startup also goes in there, fwiw
11:12:41 <Stskeeps> so i think it needs a service check
11:12:43 <Stskeeps> next bug?
11:12:51 <iekku> #normal
11:12:57 <iekku> hadsl�
11:13:01 <lbt> so we accept symlink to dev/null
11:13:02 <iekku> not my day, sorry
11:13:20 <Stskeeps> lbt: or some uxlaunch setting
11:13:33 <iekku> should this conversation continue after triage? we are going too deep
11:13:39 <Stskeeps> yes, next bug
11:13:45 <iekku> #topic https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=321 - Provide a smaller set of locales in the glibc-common (>= 2.15) package
11:13:51 <Stskeeps> high
11:14:05 <iekku> #info high
11:14:23 <iekku> anything else
11:14:25 <iekku> ?
11:15:10 <Stskeeps> nop
11:15:33 <iekku> #topic https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=322 - Connection refused for armv7el on fakeobs when disabling i586 in obs
11:15:55 <Stskeeps> cached state in obs bug
11:16:05 <Stskeeps> unclear sometimes how to deal with that
11:16:47 <lbt> once it was OK then reverting the fix restored the problem iirc
11:17:14 <Stskeeps> low? ..
11:17:21 <Stskeeps> just behaviour not clearly documented
11:17:39 <lbt> there is a workaround... so low seems reasonable
11:17:52 <iekku> #info low
11:18:04 <iekku> #topic Moving on to tasks: https://bugs.merproject.org/buglist.cgi?emailassigned_to1=1&query_format=advanced&bug_severity=task&bug_status=NEEDINFO&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=TRIAGEDUPSTREAM&bug_status=REOPENED&email1=need-triage&emailtype1=substring&order=bug_id
11:18:18 <iekku> #topic https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=319 - we should have a wiki page that illustrates a bit what mer 'obs' is actually about
11:18:22 <Stskeeps> normal prio?
11:18:38 <iekku> :nod:
11:18:50 <iekku> #info normal
11:19:00 <iekku> #info Task list is now: https://bugs.merproject.org/buglist.cgi?bug_severity=task&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&email1=not-taken%40&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&query_format=advanced&order=priority%2Cbug_id&query_based_on=
11:19:10 <iekku> #info Not taken bugs: https://bugs.merproject.org/buglist.cgi?bug_severity=critical&bug_severity=major&bug_severity=normal&bug_severity=trivial&bug_severity=enhancement&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&email1=not-taken%40&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&query_format=advanced&order=priority%2Cbug_id&query_based_on=
11:19:19 <iekku> #topic review the task list and adjust according to discussion and plans: https://bugs.merproject.org/buglist.cgi?bug_severity=task&bug_status=NEEDINFO&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=TRIAGEDUPSTREAM&bug_status=REOPENED&email1=not-taken&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&query_format=advanced&query_based_on=&columnlist=bug_severity%2Cpriority%2Cshort_desc%2Ccomponent
11:20:05 <Stskeeps> we have a lot of housekeeping tasks, please feel free to take those as well, when you have idle moments
11:20:10 <Stskeeps> to help our agility in the future
11:20:17 <Stskeeps> (low tasks, URL entries)
11:20:48 <iekku> #info we have a lot of housekeeping tasks, please feel free to take those as well, when you have idle moments
11:20:51 <iekku> ;)
11:22:04 <iekku> any comments?
11:23:09 <lbt> many of the 'normal' bugs fit on my roadmap
11:23:42 <lbt> I want to get BOSS deployment in CI improved and then do more validation which will lead to resolving many of those bugs
11:23:51 <Stskeeps> :nod:
11:25:31 <iekku> anything else?
11:25:44 <iekku> if not we can close the meeting
11:25:50 <Stskeeps> the search for bugs that are assigned list?
11:26:42 <iekku> #info search for bugs that are assigned: https://bugs.merproject.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&columnlist=bug_severity%2Cpriority%2Cassigned_to%2Cbug_status%2Cshort_desc%2Ccomponent%2Cchangeddate&field0-0-0=assigned_to&field0-1-0=assigned_to&query_format=advanced&type0-0-0=notequals&type0-1-0=notequals&value0-0-0=need-triage%40merproject.org&value0-1-0=not-taken%40merproject.org&order=changeddate%2Cbug_id&qu
11:27:09 <Stskeeps> please look into what you have committed to and update them :)
11:27:35 <lbt> :/
11:27:38 <iekku> #info list of the assigned bugs are included to bug triage invitation mail
11:28:06 <Stskeeps> phaeron: 145 is OK these days, isn't it?
11:28:22 <phaeron> what ?
11:28:57 <Stskeeps> bug 145
11:29:03 <phaeron> checking
11:29:11 <lbt> I think that falls into the whole "Tools/MINT/OBS promotion and release process"
11:29:16 <iekku> https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=145
11:29:24 <phaeron> imho yes
11:29:37 <iekku> phaeron, do you mind to comment and update?
11:30:10 <Stskeeps> we're going to be doing the weekly assignee lists instead of individually bothering people on their emails
11:30:22 <Stskeeps> as the bugzilla originally did
11:30:25 <iekku> i think that's the best way
11:30:34 <iekku> whining can be sooooooo annoying
11:31:17 <iekku> whining = bz sends email notifications to update the bug
11:31:45 <phaeron> iekku: sure
11:31:59 <iekku> thanks
11:32:16 <iekku> is there anything else, or can we close the meeting?
11:33:18 <lbt> I'm done
11:33:31 <iekku> thanks for you all
11:33:36 <iekku> #endmeeting