07:03:21 <iekku> #startmeeting Nemo Bug Triage 10/09/2012
07:03:21 <Merbot> Meeting started Mon Sep 10 07:03:21 2012 UTC.  The chair is iekku. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Meetings.
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07:03:24 <iekku> #topic We'll start with the new bugs:
07:03:26 <iekku> #link https://bugs.nemomobile.org/buglist.cgi?bug_severity=critical&bug_severity=major&bug_severity=normal&bug_severity=trivial&bug_severity=enhancement&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=NEEDINFO&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&email1=need-triage&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&query_format=advanced&query_based_on=&columnlist=bug_severity%2Cpriority%2Cassigned_to%2Cbug_status%2Cshort_desc%2Ccomponent
07:04:19 <iekku> #topic https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=327 - Settings application crashes while trying to open wifi option from it ���
07:04:19 <Merbot> 04Bug 327: critical, Undecided, ---, need-triage, NEEDINFO, Settings application crashes while trying to open wifi option from it
07:04:43 <iekku> still same situation than last week
07:04:48 <iekku> nothing we can do
07:04:57 <Kypeli_> someone should just test this with the latest image and close it if not valid
07:05:00 <iekku> #info still needs to be re-tested
07:05:17 <iekku> #topic https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=328 �- Dialer application is not opening
07:05:17 <Merbot> 04Bug 328: critical, Undecided, ---, need-triage, NEEDINFO, Dialer application is not opening
07:05:41 <iekku> same with this one
07:05:45 <iekku> #info still needs to be re-tested
07:05:56 <Kypeli_> Should be easy to test. I just don't have a Nemo image ready :-/
07:06:13 <iekku> Kypeli_, when you have :)
07:06:16 <iekku> #topic https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346 - Flickr - pics can be opened though scrolled/hidden behind the search area ���
07:06:16 <Merbot> 04Bug 346: normal, Normal, ---, need-triage, NEW, Flickr - pics can be opened though scrolled/hidden behind the search area
07:07:12 <kyyberi> o/
07:07:27 <special> already triaged
07:07:53 <iekku> sorry
07:07:59 <iekku> #info already triaged
07:08:11 <iekku> #topic https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=349 - Panning between launcher and switcher is hard. ���
07:08:11 <Merbot> 04Bug 349: normal, High, ---, not-taken, NEW, Panning between launcher and switcher is hard.
07:08:33 <iekku> same with that
07:08:38 * iekku needs coffee
07:09:04 <iekku> #info already triaged
07:09:07 <iekku> #topic https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=369 -  Notifications are shown for the active chat window ���
07:09:07 <Merbot> 04Bug 369: normal, Undecided, ---, need-triage, NEW, Notifications are shown for the active chat window
07:09:53 <Kypeli_> Importance: normal / normal ?
07:10:00 <iekku> task maybe
07:10:15 <iekku> seems more like feature to me than bug
07:10:15 <special> not task, it's rather annoying (especially because of that X bug with notifications)
07:10:24 <iekku> ah, ok
07:10:34 <Kypeli_> Would also be nice to have the affected version somewhere in bug reports.
07:10:35 <iekku> high-normal then?
07:10:50 <iekku> Kypeli_, +1
07:11:05 <Kypeli_> high-normal ok
07:11:17 <special> high is good.
07:11:21 <iekku> #info high
07:11:32 <iekku> #topic https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=371 - Add ability to delete a conversation group ���
07:11:32 <Merbot> 04Bug 371: normal, Undecided, ---, need-triage, NEW, Add ability to delete a conversation group
07:11:57 <Kypeli_> normal-task ?
07:12:30 <iekku> special, any opinion?
07:12:38 <special> task yes, I'll let you guys choose between normal or low
07:12:39 <w00t> sounds about right to me.. it's probably not something you want to do often
07:13:03 <iekku> low-task then
07:13:08 <iekku> #info low-task
07:13:35 <iekku> #topic https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=372 �- Highlight unread messages on groups view
07:13:35 <Merbot> 04Bug 372: normal, Undecided, ---, need-triage, NEW, Highlight unread messages on groups view
07:14:40 <iekku> high, as it's important to user
07:14:46 <iekku> and very usefull
07:14:52 <iekku> task?
07:15:08 <special> high task sounds good to me
07:15:11 <w00t> yep
07:15:46 <iekku> #info high-task
07:15:57 <iekku> #topic https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=373 - Show presence status for conversation peer
07:15:57 <Merbot> 04Bug 373: normal, Undecided, ---, need-triage, NEW, Show presence status for conversation peer
07:16:24 <iekku> normal/low - task
07:16:41 <w00t> normal.. nice to see if they went offline :P
07:17:31 <iekku> :)
07:17:58 <iekku> #info normal-task
07:18:14 <iekku> #topic https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=375 - Buffered or pending messages aren't displayed until sent ���
07:18:14 <Merbot> 04Bug 375: normal, Undecided, ---, need-triage, NEW, Buffered or pending messages aren't displayed until sent
07:18:55 <iekku> normal/high - task
07:19:20 <special> can seem like a bug because the message won't show up in some cases (like when offline, iirc)
07:19:24 <iekku> there might be pending ones for long time, should be shown
07:19:36 <iekku> ah, ok
07:19:55 <Sage> high
07:19:55 <special> but normal would be fine
07:20:04 <special> or high if it's confusing :p
07:20:07 <iekku> high-normal?
07:20:37 <Sage> well, I'm fine with both. But it is very confusing if user don't know what happened
07:20:47 <iekku> high-major then?
07:20:55 <Kypeli_> Is this more of an issue with chat or also with SMS?
07:21:08 <Kypeli_> sms is at least a more common use case so maybe should correlate to that also
07:21:18 <special> it probably won't appear with SMS just because of how tp-ring works
07:21:18 <iekku> i think it's even more important when using chat
07:21:36 <special> but with chat it could look like you're typing messages and nothing is happening afterwards.
07:21:43 <Kypeli_> Yeah, that's bad
07:21:52 <iekku> so, high-major it is
07:21:56 <special> works for me
07:22:13 <iekku> #info high-major
07:22:23 <iekku> #topic https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=376 - Group titles should be displayed consistently ���
07:22:23 <Merbot> 04Bug 376: normal, Undecided, ---, need-triage, NEW, Group titles should be displayed consistently
07:23:34 <special> if I wasn't clear on that description: the contact's real name won't show up everywhere, some places use IDs/phone numbers instead.
07:23:52 <special> sorry, I was jotting these down fast in the middle of working on something :p
07:24:37 <iekku> i find this high-major also
07:24:44 <iekku> from user point of view
07:26:17 <special> high is good, not sure about major, since it's not *broken*, it's just not ideal.
07:26:56 <iekku> high-normal then
07:27:07 <iekku> #info high
07:27:20 <iekku> #topic https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377 - New conversation page is unusable in landscape ���
07:27:20 <Merbot> 04Bug 377: trivial, Undecided, ---, need-triage, NEW, New conversation page is unusable in landscape
07:27:48 <iekku> high-major
07:28:31 <iekku> ?
07:28:46 <special> mm
07:28:53 <Kypeli_> It's pretty bad if a view is not usable at all.
07:28:54 <special> works fine with hardware KB or in portrait
07:29:16 <iekku> that's why i didn't say critical, it's still works but...
07:29:24 <w00t> high/major I'd agree with
07:29:32 <Kypeli_> +1
07:29:32 <special> landscape fans, I see :p
07:29:34 <w00t> there are workarounds, but it's not ideal
07:29:37 <iekku> :nod:
07:29:53 <w00t> special: of course ;p
07:30:28 <iekku> special, better vkb when having landscape mode
07:30:34 <deztructor> special: landscape is the only true mode for conversations
07:30:39 <deztructor> :)
07:30:41 <special> haha
07:30:43 <special> high/major is fine
07:30:52 <iekku> #info high-major
07:31:02 <iekku> #topic https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=378 - Use a background thread for commhistory models
07:31:02 <Merbot> 04Bug 378: normal, Undecided, ---, need-triage, NEW, Use a background thread for commhistory models
07:31:36 <special> only effect is (up to) a few seconds of lag when first loading a conversation
07:31:46 <special> but it's pretty annoying.
07:31:50 <Kypeli_> performance is important nevertheless.. normal / task ?
07:31:57 <w00t> normal
07:32:07 <iekku> task?
07:32:28 <deztructor> design bug :)
07:32:52 <deztructor> but task
07:33:08 <iekku> #info normal-task
07:33:19 <iekku> #topic https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=381 - qmsystem's logic should be pluginized ���
07:33:19 <Merbot> 04Bug 381: normal, Undecided, ---, need-triage, NEW, qmsystem's logic should be pluginized
07:33:44 <deztructor> w00t: I'll move qmbattery to ctxkit
07:34:18 <deztructor> so, is there anybody using info provided by qmsystem parts but not available in #mer?
07:34:28 <deztructor> what parts are still closed?
07:34:44 <w00t> iekku: normal, probably should have child items
07:35:02 <Sage> deztructor: in nemo we are using the messaging framework mainly. not sure if other parts are actively used
07:35:29 <w00t> Sage: do you mean mobility
07:35:33 <iekku> w00t, ok
07:35:49 <deztructor> so, plugin arch is not so important now
07:36:04 <Sage> errr.. understod the comment wrong :/
07:36:32 <deztructor> :)
07:36:54 <iekku> #info normal, can be used as META
07:37:12 <iekku> #topic https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=382 - incorrect use of GLES2_VERSION guard in compositor ���
07:37:12 <Merbot> 04Bug 382: normal, Undecided, ---, need-triage, NEW, incorrect use of GLES2_VERSION guard in compositor
07:38:09 <w00t> low, more a reminder to investigate the effects, nothing (noticably?) wrong
07:38:10 <iekku> w00t, how bad things this can cause?
07:38:21 <w00t> maybe faster battery drain on x86
07:38:29 <iekku> that's serious
07:38:43 <w00t> note the "maybe"
07:38:47 <w00t> I haven't really measured it
07:38:58 <iekku> ok, let's have this low, if needed get higher
07:39:32 <iekku> #info low
07:39:43 <iekku> #topic https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=383 - Calling from contacts doesn't popup dialer ���
07:39:43 <Merbot> 04Bug 383: normal, Undecided, ---, need-triage, NEW, Calling from contacts doesn't popup dialer
07:39:52 <Sage> fixed already?
07:39:58 <Sage> I showed it at devaamo at least :)
07:40:15 <timoph> so verified - fixed :p
07:40:26 <iekku> Sage, could you please comment?
07:40:46 <iekku> #info verified (showed in demo) - fixed
07:40:48 <w00t> try it without a SIM
07:40:54 <w00t> at least it wasn't working in that case
07:41:11 <iekku> ah,
07:41:26 <w00t> I can try after triage
07:41:29 <iekku> so needs testing without sim also
07:41:35 <deztructor> is it the same bug?
07:41:39 <Kypeli_> What should happen without SIM?
07:41:41 <Kypeli_> Some error I guess.
07:42:46 <iekku> i'd rather get new one open in case of offline
07:43:03 <iekku> but that's only my opinion
07:43:07 <Kypeli_> I agree
07:43:10 <deztructor> yep
07:43:53 <iekku> so, let's close this one and w00t creates a new if there's still something when offline/no sim?
07:43:58 <w00t> fine
07:44:03 <iekku> good :)
07:44:23 <iekku> Sage, close this
07:44:47 <iekku> #topic https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=384 - SMS icon in contact card doesn't do anything ���
07:44:47 <Merbot> 04Bug 384: normal, Undecided, ---, need-triage, NEW, SMS icon in contact card doesn't do anything
07:44:57 <timoph> nothing happen when pressing call button with no sim
07:45:00 <timoph> just tested
07:45:14 <w00t> high/task
07:45:18 <Kypeli_> yep
07:45:46 <Sage> iekku: k
07:46:06 * Sage agrees with others
07:46:07 <iekku> #info high - task
07:46:21 <iekku> #topic https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=385 - E-Mail application missing from Nemo ���
07:46:21 <Merbot> 04Bug 385: normal, Undecided, ---, need-triage, NEW, E-Mail application missing from Nemo
07:46:39 <deztructor> high? important
07:46:42 <iekku> too bad that this can't be critical - task
07:46:59 <iekku> +1 for high
07:47:01 <w00t> why can't it be? :-)
07:47:05 <Sage> I would say high as well
07:47:08 <w00t> but yes
07:47:12 <w00t> very important
07:47:23 <iekku> critical and task are both in the priority
07:47:28 <timoph> hmmh. anyone wants to collaborate on this with me?
07:47:31 <iekku> i think this is task
07:47:39 <w00t> iekku: was kidding, go ahead with high/task i think
07:47:43 <timoph> we can take that discussion to #nemomobile
07:48:04 <w00t> timoph: i can offer somewhat of a helping hand, discuss after?
07:48:19 <timoph> w00t: lets do that
07:49:09 <iekku> #info high-task
07:49:12 <iekku> #topic https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=386 - Add possibility to add notes to contact cards ���
07:49:12 <Merbot> 04Bug 386: normal, Undecided, ---, need-triage, NEW, Add possibility to add notes to contact cards
07:49:12 <deztructor> timoph: w00t i can add my penni too :)
07:49:45 <Kypeli_> low / task ?
07:49:57 <deztructor> looks like
07:49:58 <special> yes
07:49:59 <Sage> yes
07:50:03 <iekku> :nod:
07:50:32 <iekku> #topic https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=387 - [FEA] Websites to contact cards ���
07:50:32 <Merbot> 04Bug 387: normal, Undecided, ---, need-triage, NEW, [FEA] Websites to contact cards
07:51:07 <w00t> low/task also? easy fix
07:51:09 <deztructor> low/task
07:51:46 <iekku> #info low - task, easyFix
07:52:22 <iekku> #topic https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=388 - Saving contact information after cancelling avatar selection clears avatar
07:52:22 <Merbot> 04Bug 388: normal, Undecided, ---, need-triage, NEW, Saving contact information after cancelling avatar selection clears avatar
07:52:42 <w00t> sounds like high
07:52:56 <deztructor> annoys user
07:53:03 <iekku> high-major
07:53:05 <w00t> dataloss is never good
07:53:07 <iekku> user data lost
07:53:12 <Sage> that was very confusing :)
07:53:21 <deztructor> and user start to throw a phone into the wall
07:53:30 <iekku> :nod:
07:53:45 <Sage> high yes
07:53:51 <iekku> major?
07:54:07 <w00t> yep
07:54:22 <deztructor> yes, engineer lifes depend on it
07:54:39 <iekku> :D
07:54:46 <iekku> #info high-major
07:54:59 <iekku> #topic https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=389 - Packagekit integration for uninstalling ���
07:54:59 <Merbot> 04Bug 389: normal, Undecided, ---, need-triage, NEW, Packagekit integration for uninstalling
07:55:32 <deztructor> still normal, task
07:55:47 <w00t> task.. low/normal? we have the packages application, but I guess it'd be a nice option
07:56:20 <iekku> let's go with normal then
07:56:22 <deztructor> so, maybe low for a nearest future?
07:56:29 <iekku> ok :D
07:56:30 <w00t> normal's fine
07:56:33 <w00t> low's fine
07:56:34 <deztructor> :)
07:56:51 <deztructor> it can be raised from low @ any time :)
07:56:56 <iekku> #info low-task
07:57:08 <iekku> #topic https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=390 - Unable to scroll contact card to the end ���
07:57:08 <Merbot> 04Bug 390: normal, Undecided, ---, need-triage, NEW, Unable to scroll contact card to the end
07:57:08 <deztructor> good feature but feature :)
07:57:39 <deztructor> bad
07:57:40 <iekku> #high
07:57:41 * Sage has lots of phonenumbers ;)
07:57:43 <iekku> �asdghlsg
07:57:44 <deztructor> should be high
07:57:48 <w00t> annoyingly, i thought i'd fixed that :P
07:57:51 <w00t> high
07:57:54 <Kypeli_> :nod:
07:58:01 <iekku> and i will say critical
07:58:20 <iekku> wait no
07:58:22 <iekku> major
07:58:29 <w00t> was about to say :)
07:58:50 <deztructor> major
07:58:58 <iekku> i got coffee, but still drinking it, so i'm slow
07:59:30 <iekku> #info high - major
07:59:45 <iekku> #topic https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=391 - [FEA] Give user ability to decide name for contact export ���
07:59:45 <Merbot> 04Bug 391: normal, Undecided, ---, need-triage, NEW, [FEA] Give user ability to decide name for contact export
08:00:25 <Kypeli_> How isn't the name not user friendly?
08:00:31 <Kypeli_> It should be the display name, no?
08:00:43 <deztructor> 1st/2nd name...
08:00:52 <deztructor> more info needed
08:00:55 <Kypeli_> Yeah
08:01:07 <iekku> :nod:
08:01:08 <w00t> it exports all contacts into a date-stamped dump right now
08:01:15 <w00t> so, no, it isn't very friendly
08:01:37 <iekku> ah, so it's about the name of the file?
08:01:44 <w00t> yes
08:01:47 <Kypeli_> Maybe besides the point, but is the export format specified?
08:01:51 <deztructor> w00t: it can be to mention it in the description :)
08:01:54 <w00t> Kypeli_: vcard
08:01:59 <Kypeli_> Which version?
08:02:04 <w00t> I don't remember
08:02:08 <Kypeli_> ok :)
08:02:27 <iekku> w00t, could you please add that info to bug?
08:02:35 <w00t> doing so
08:02:47 <iekku> i think low-normal is ok
08:03:09 <w00t> i'd say normal
08:03:14 <iekku> ok
08:03:19 <w00t> export is pretty unfriendly atm
08:03:45 <iekku> oh, we run out of time already
08:03:49 <iekku> #info normal
08:03:58 <iekku> and i have tsillion things to do
08:04:15 <w00t> I think we may need to revisit our triage process somehow, as this doesn't seem to be scaling too well
08:04:28 <iekku> and we have too much bugs
08:04:33 <deztructor> divide into portions
08:04:35 <iekku> to handle in 1h
08:04:52 <deztructor> and have some kind of separate teams
08:05:02 <iekku> might be
08:05:08 <deztructor> if there will enough people for each
08:05:10 <iekku> i will send mail about this
08:05:40 <iekku> and about qa in nemo also
08:05:45 <iekku> thanks guys
08:06:08 <iekku> oh, there's one old task, let's take that before closing
08:06:14 <iekku> #topic  Moving on to tasks: https://bugs.nemomobile.org/buglist.cgi?emailassigned_to1=1&query_format=advanced&bug_severity=task&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=NEEDINFO&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&email1=need-triage&emailtype1=substring
08:06:17 <deztructor> good day shining
08:06:22 <iekku> #topic https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=359 - LauncherModel should provide filtering capabilities
08:06:22 <Merbot> 04Bug 359: task, Undecided, ---, need-triage, NEW, LauncherModel should provide filtering capabilities
08:06:50 <w00t> iekku: what about that one?
08:06:59 <iekku> severity isn't set
08:07:03 <w00t> ah
08:07:16 <w00t> i'd say normal
08:07:29 <iekku> :nod:
08:07:35 <iekku> #info normal
08:07:44 <iekku> #info  Task list is now: https://bugs.nemomobile.org/buglist.cgi?emailassigned_to1=1&query_format=advanced&bug_severity=task&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=NEEDINFO&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&email1=not-taken%40&emailtype1=substring
08:07:48 <iekku> thanks
08:07:51 <iekku> #info   Not taken bugs: https://bugs.nemomobile.org/buglist.cgi?emailassigned_to1=1&query_format=advanced&bug_severity=critical&bug_severity=major&bug_severity=normal&bug_severity=trivial&bug_severity=enhancement&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=NEEDINFO&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&email1=not-taken%40&emailtype1=substring
08:07:56 <iekku> #endmeeting