#mer-meeting: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration – April 5th 2017

Meeting started by Jaymzz_ at 09:00:27 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

    1. Meeting information and agenda can be found here: https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2017-April/007813.html (Jaymzz_, 09:00:39)

  1. Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with # info (Jaymzz_, 09:01:01)
    1. James Noori, Community Manager, Jolla (Jaymzz_, 09:01:09)
    2. Aleksi Suomalainen, community (locusf, 09:01:12)
    3. Chris Adams, developer at Jolla (chriadam, 09:01:49)
    4. Vesa-Matti Hartikainen, Program Manager at Jolla (veskuh, 09:02:10)
    5. luca247 , sailfish os user (luca247, 09:03:23)
    6. tadzik, sailfish user and app developer (tadzik, 09:03:38)
    7. Martin Ebnöther, SailfishOS User (Venty, 09:04:03)
    8. Tommi Keisala, community (JvD_, 09:04:54)
    9. atlochowski, sailfishos user (atlochowski, 09:04:55)
    10. Matti Koskimies, user (mattikbk, 09:05:00)
    11. jwalck, community member (jwalck, 09:05:13)
    12. PureTryOut, SailfishOS user, has a Jolla 1 (PureTryOut[m], 09:05:26)
    13. Mikaela Suomalainen, community member (SailfishOS Fan Club) (Michaela, 09:05:27)
    14. Leif-Jöran Olsson, community (ljo, 09:05:57)
    15. Steph Gosling (community, porter) (stephg, 09:06:05)
    16. pavi,community (pavi[m], 09:06:11)
    17. Andrey Kozhevnikov, community, omprussia (coderus, 09:06:27)
    18. Thomas, mer community (tbr, 09:06:49)

  2. Sailfish Browser / Servo, asked by mh1402 (20 min) (Jaymzz_, 09:07:15)
    1. Servo components are slowly being added to Firefox, WebRender, Quantum etc. on target to be added some point this year. I think we should jump straight to these components once they are stable enough, and bypass these old versions of embedlite/firefox. (Jaymzz_, 09:07:18)
    2. Drummer12 community member, early adopter (Drummer12, 09:07:42)
    3. Simonas Leleiva, running late (sledges, 09:08:07)
    4. Fabio Isgrò ... Power user (dr_gogeta86, 09:08:28)
    5. Andre Walker, user (andrewalker, 09:08:36)
    6. Raine M�kel�inen, developer at Jolla (rainemak, 09:10:55)
    7. Lewis Rockliffe, community (r0kk3rz, 09:11:15)
    8. We could eventually switch to Servo based gecko but it isn't ready for commercial use yet. Community, feel free to work on it (Jaymzz_, 09:14:10)
    9. Kimmo Lindholm, Late (kimmoli, 09:17:48)
    10. eekkelund, late as well (eekkelund, 09:18:37)
    11. ghosalmartin just curious, and also late it seems (ghosalmartin, 09:18:54)
    12. Nokius community also late (Nokius, 09:19:40)
    13. Andrew Branson. Sailor. Latest. (abranson, 09:22:17)
    14. this topic will be revisited during the next meeting (Jaymzz_, 09:25:23)
    15. Chupligin Sergey, omprussia, glacier develioer (NeoChapay, 09:25:55)

  3. Matrix client need for a native client, asked by Pavi and PureTryOut (15 min) (Jaymzz_, 09:25:56)
    1. Matrix is an open protocol for decentralised communication on http. It allows users to see a backlog of messages, it also supports voice and video calls. It's designed to support group communication and additionally offers bridges to various other protocols/services like IRC, XMPP, slack etc. There is already one QML based client Tensor which in its 0.1 version has Sailfish Os implementation. Other clients which are Qt based (Jaymzz_, 09:26:07)
    2. https://github.com/davidar/tensor (pavi[m], 09:27:31)
    3. https://together.jolla.com/question/127769/tensor-matrix-client/ (Jaymzz_, 09:27:57)
    4. https://github.com/davidar/tensor (Jaymzz_, 09:28:08)
    5. https://github.com/davidar/tensor/issues/4#issuecomment-222780172 (Jaymzz_, 09:29:16)
    6. http://github.com/fxrh/quaternion (Jaymzz_, 09:29:44)
    7. Matrix has lately been gaining a lot of traction, and it might be "the one solution/standard to rule them all". Sadly right now it's lacking any sort of native client for SFOS, and we're stuck with running the F-Droid version of Riot for Android (Jaymzz_, 09:30:00)
    8. https://fosdem.org/2017/schedule/event/encrypting_matrix/ (Jaymzz_, 09:34:39)
    9. Topic duration extended for another 5 minues to wrap up (Jaymzz_, 09:41:11)
    10. Conclusion: Community can freely work on a solution. Currently, Jolla is not capable/does not have enough resources to tackle the topic. (Jaymzz_, 09:47:55)

  4. General discussion (15 min) (Jaymzz_, 09:48:08)
    1. regarding opensourcing: We haven’t changed our plans on open sourcing. Doing it just is more complex than we thought. Essentially this: http://www.mindtrek.org/2016/world-needs-options-join-us-creating-one/ (Jaymzz_, 09:54:44)
    2. http://www.mindtrek.org/2016/world-needs-options-join-us-creating-one/ (Jaymzz_, 09:54:52)

  5. Next meeting’s time and date (5 min) (Jaymzz_, 10:03:17)
  6. next meeting: Wednesday 19th of April 2017 at 08:00 UTC (Jaymzz_, 10:14:56)


Meeting ended at 10:15:22 UTC (full logs).

Action items

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  2. PureTryOut[m] (34)
  3. pavi[m] (28)
  4. ApBBB (17)
  5. r0kk3rz (15)
  6. jwalck (14)
  7. veskuh (12)
  8. coderus (12)
  9. rainemak (11)
  10. nh1402 (9)
  11. locusf (9)
  12. LarstiQ (8)
  13. c-la_ (7)
  14. Michaela (7)
  15. sledges (5)
  16. stephg (5)
  17. Nokius (3)
  18. chriadam (2)
  19. abranson (2)
  20. eekkelund (2)
  21. merbot (2)
  22. atlochowski (2)
  23. ljo_ (2)
  24. Yaniel (2)
  25. tadzik (1)
  26. Venty (1)
  27. kimmoli (1)
  28. t3chguy (1)
  29. luca247 (1)
  30. NeoChapay (1)
  31. andrewalker (1)
  32. tbr (1)
  33. mattikbk (1)
  34. dr_gogeta86 (1)
  35. Drummer12 (1)
  36. ljo (1)
  37. ghosalmartin (1)
  38. JvD_ (1)


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