#mer-meeting: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 18th October 2017

Meeting started by sledges at 08:00:00 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

    1. Meeting information and agenda can be found here: https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2017-October/008048.html (sledges, 08:00:06)

  2. Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with # info (sledges, 08:00:19)
    1. nh1402, community member (nh1402, 08:00:47)
    2. Jens Müller, Sailor / Community Member (jenix, 08:00:56)
    3. nekron, proud Sailfish X user (nekron, 08:01:04)
    4. Steph Gosling, community, porter (stephg, 08:01:06)
    5. tbr, mer community (tbr, 08:01:13)
    6. Uli Müller, community member (fellfrosch, 08:01:34)
    7. Chris Adams, developer at Jolla (chriadam__, 08:01:40)
    8. Leif-Jöran Olsson, community (ljo, 08:01:45)
    9. Damien Caliste, community (dcaliste, 08:01:53)
    10. Andrew Branson, Jolla dev (abranson, 08:01:58)
    11. Mister_Magister, Porter and community (Mister_Magister, 08:02:14)
    12. Marko Saukko, Sailor @ Jolla (Sage_, 08:02:44)
    13. Matti Kosola, Sailor @ Jolla (mkosola, 08:03:25)
    14. Martin Kolman, modRana developer & community member (M4rtinK_phone_, 08:03:58)
    15. Simonas Leleiva, hw and l10n sailing @ Jolla (sledges, 08:04:17)
    16. Vincent Knecht, community (vknecht, 08:04:36)
    17. Pami Ketolainen, sailor @ Jolla (pketolai, 08:04:39)
    18. eekkelund (eekkelund, 08:05:37)

  3. Swype keyboard support on Sailfish OS (asked by nh1402 - 10 min) (sledges, 08:05:43)
    1. Joona Pterell, sailor @ Jolla (jpetrell, 08:05:44)
    2. http://merproject.org/logs/%23sailfishos/%23sailfishos.2017-09-13.log.html#t2017-09-13T08:59:19 (sledges, 08:06:08)
    3. Not having a gesture based keyboard on a gesture based OS is baffling to me. I'm aware there might be license restrictions preventing it from being on the free version of Sailfish, but the prediction engine license for the keyboard on the licensed version of Sailfish also includes gesture based keyboard input. source #link above (sledges, 08:06:17)
    4. Jonatan Walck, community member (jwalck, 08:06:18)
    5. There is already a post on TJC that has gathered over 500 votes for it So it's not like it's not popular. (sledges, 08:06:32)
    6. https://together.jolla.com/question/333/swype-like-virtual-keyboard/ (sledges, 08:06:37)
    7. take OKBoard as reference (license is permissive) to speed up development, not on roadmap, but wished for inside Jolla as well, so let's hope for a swift (pun intended) outcome! (sledges, 08:17:26)

  4. Configure app drawer (asked by nh1402 - 5min) (sledges, 08:17:56)
    1. Have the ability to reorder apps, alphabetically ascending/descending, custom reordering, by installation, let the user decide. (sledges, 08:18:25)
    2. this is though one, the interface should be kept as simple as possible for most users while power users want more features (sledges, 08:22:58)
    3. global and in-app search is IMO more important than sorting (sledges, 08:25:24)
    4. app search app is "Quick launcher" in jolla store for community to have fallback for now (sledges, 08:27:32)
    5. Glacier UI (FOSS Sailfish OS sibling) has app search too (sledges, 08:28:09)

  5. Sailfish X storage space (asked by c_la - 30 min) (sledges, 08:29:54)
    1. it seems that there are only 18GB of disk space available and that the data for system partition is only 2GB. I believe there should be a discussion with sailors about it. (sledges, 08:30:15)
    2. https://together.jolla.com/question/168968/xperia-x-internal-storage/ (sledges, 08:30:21)
    3. it is not possible to repartition the device, hence we lose 7 GB worth of space in the Android's system partition (that we only use for ~1.5 GB factory reset image, which cannot be placed elsewhere) (sledges, 08:42:18)
    4. to the brave souls out there: (sledges, 08:51:30)
    5. https://together.jolla.com/question/156279/installing-system-updates-fails-when-there-is-not-enough-space-in-system-data-partition/?answer=156670#post-id-156670 (sledges, 08:51:32)
    6. no safe solutions exist to the two problems: losing 7 GB to factory reset, and too small system partition (rootfs); we'll have in mind to enlarge rootfs in future devices, for now just install less apps and use SD card ;) (sledges, 08:54:50)

  6. General QA after sailfish X release (asked by c_la - 30 min) (sledges, 08:55:55)
    1. Internet Sharing has a workaround, that I think will be included in releas notes for the time being: (sledges, 09:19:27)
    2. https://sailfishos.org/wiki/Sailfish_X_Build_and_Flash#Adaptation_Status (sledges, 09:19:31)
    3. Bluetooth stabilisation is another well-sought feature: (sledges, 09:24:15)
    4. https://together.jolla.com/question/169519/sony-xperia-bluetooth/ (sledges, 09:24:21)

  7. General discussion (15 min) (sledges, 09:26:22)
    1. https://together.jolla.com/question/167645/open-source-roadmap-from-the-community-point-of-view (sledges, 09:37:58)

  8. Next meeting time and date (5min) (sledges, 09:44:08)


Meeting ended at 09:47:43 UTC (full logs).

Action items

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People present (lines said)

  1. sledges (123)
  2. M4rtinK (61)
  3. nh1402 (56)
  4. r0kk3rz (56)
  5. jenix (53)
  6. Robbster (44)
  7. abranson (31)
  8. jpetrell (24)
  9. ApBBB (18)
  10. stephg (14)
  11. jwalck (13)
  12. Mister_Magister (10)
  13. fellfrosch (9)
  14. M4rtinK_phone_ (9)
  15. eekkelund (8)
  16. dcaliste (7)
  17. filip (7)
  18. mattikbk (3)
  19. dr_gogeta86 (3)
  20. ljo (3)
  21. peperjohnny (3)
  22. chriadam_ (2)
  23. merbot (2)
  24. tbr (2)
  25. chriadam__ (1)
  26. objectifnul (1)
  27. pketolai (1)
  28. vknecht (1)
  29. Sage_ (1)
  30. nekron (1)
  31. mkosola (1)
  32. locusf (1)


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