#mer-meeting: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration – May 17th 2018

Meeting started by Jaymzz at 08:01:13 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

    1. Meeting information and agenda can be found here: https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2018-May/008381.html (Jaymzz, 08:01:21)

  2. Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with # info (Jaymzz, 08:01:39)
    1. James Noori, Sailor @ Jolla (Jaymzz, 08:01:47)
    2. Mister_Magister, Sailor @ VerdandiTeam (Mister_Magister, 08:01:57)
    3. Leif-Jöran Olsson, community (ljo, 08:02:06)
    4. Chris Adams, developer at Jolla (chriadam_, 08:02:15)
    5. schmittlauch, community (M-schmittlauch, 08:02:23)
    6. Pekka Vuorela, developer at Jolla (pvuorela, 08:02:25)
    7. John888, community (John888, 08:02:38)
    8. Lewis Rockliffe, community (r0kk3rz, 08:02:49)
    9. Frajo Haider, Sailor @ Jolla (krnlyng, 08:02:52)
    10. Andrew Branson, sailor (abranson, 08:03:07)
    11. David Llewellyn-Jones, community (flypig, 08:03:23)
    12. Simonas Leleiva, developer at Jolla (sledges, 08:03:46)
    13. martonmiklso, community (martonmiklos, 08:03:57)
    14. Leszek Lesner, community and dev (leszek, 08:05:40)
    15. Raine Mäkeläinen, developer @ Jolla (rainemak, 08:06:25)

  3. Sony Xperia XA2 model support (5min – asked by carmeloferso ) (Jaymzz, 08:06:55)
    1. It was already disccussed on the meetings that the models that Jolla is working are H3113, H4113 for the Sailfish X image. I would like to know if the others models as H3123 (my current phone), H3133 and H4133 will be supported also, as I was comparing and what I can notice is that only LTE bands are different and also if supports a dual sim card or not. (Jaymzz, 08:07:07)
    2. Unfortunately, only the ones in Sony Open Devices Programme can be considered to either become supported or not: https://developer.sony.com/develop/open-devices/get-started/supported-devices-and-functionality/ (sledges, 08:07:43)

  4. Wayland update (15 min – Asked by r0kk3rz) (Jaymzz, 08:14:10)
    1. Lately more projects are releasing working Wayland support (eg. Firefox) but they require a newer version of Wayland than we have available. Wayland 1.6 is quite old and before any of the APIs were declared stable. Mal has done some prelimiary work here: https://build.merproject.org/project/show/home:mal:update Does Jolla have any immediate plans to update Wayland? (Jaymzz, 08:14:30)
    2. https://build.merproject.org/project/show/home:mal:update (Jaymzz, 08:14:40)
    3. wayland update hasn't been discussed, but i hope it's just a simple version bump. it's not patched or anything. and yea, it's getting old so maybe should just do it. (sledges, 08:19:11)

  5. Everything being rendered on CPU instead of GPU (20 min – asked by Mister_Magister) (Jaymzz, 08:29:21)
    1. Tested on 10 phones including jolla phone and xperia x. When scrolling in browser or webkit there is no gpu usage but there is high CPU usage. There is no GPU usage at all when watching video. Test method: play video in lls player (it uses sam stuff as gallery) and check gpu usage in aida64 (Jaymzz, 08:29:31)
    2. added 5 mins to this topic (Jaymzz, 08:50:46)

  6. Share contact details via SMS (10 min – asked by martonmiklos) (Jaymzz, 08:55:44)
    1. Recently I started to came across this issue or missing feature weekly: https://together.jolla.com/question/7695/share-contact-carddetails-via-sms/ and it started to hit my stimulus threshold, to look for some solutions. Before starting to implement a plugin I would like to doublecheck that this not on the short term roadmap. (Jaymzz, 08:55:56)
    2. https://together.jolla.com/question/7695/share-contact-carddetails-via-sms/ (Jaymzz, 08:56:23)
    3. he got his answer and will come up with a plugin soonTM (Jaymzz, 09:05:59)

  7. SailfishOS for the Youyota tablet; comments from Jolla's perspective (10 min – asked by schmittlauch ) (Jaymzz, 09:06:32)
    1. While the Youyota Tablet (an attempt to rebuild the Jolla Tablet) more and more looks like it's also failed, some rumors suggest that this is partly due to higher licensing fees demanded by Jolla in advance then it used to be the case. Understanding the legal circumstances like NDAs, can Jolla sonmehow comment on the state of this project? Going to a meta level, how hard would it be to provide official SailfishX licenses in (Jaymzz, 09:06:45)

  8. General discussion (15 min) (Jaymzz, 09:15:26)
    1. John888: more on your topic: if you can build Sony AOSP for H3113 and flash it to your H3123 (as only modem baseband differs) successfully, then our image will most probably be working for you too (sledges, 09:15:30)
    2. https://developer.sony.com/develop/open-devices/guides/aosp-build-instructions/build-aosp-nougat-8-1-oreo-4-4/#tutorial-step-4 (sledges, 09:15:34)

  9. Next meeting’s time and date (5 min) (Jaymzz, 09:30:35)
    1. Next meeting will be held on Thursday, May 31st 2018 at 08:00 UTC (Jaymzz, 09:32:34)


Meeting ended at 09:33:05 UTC (full logs).

Action items

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People present (lines said)

  1. Mister_Magister (75)
  2. Jaymzz (67)
  3. leszek (46)
  4. r0kk3rz (42)
  5. sledges (28)
  6. abranson (25)
  7. ApBBB (25)
  8. martonmiklos (25)
  9. John888 (22)
  10. M-schmittlauch (14)
  11. chriadam_ (10)
  12. rainemak (9)
  13. krnlyng (8)
  14. pvuorela (6)
  15. m4g0g (6)
  16. chriadam__ (4)
  17. flypig (3)
  18. merbot` (2)
  19. eekkelund (1)
  20. tbr (1)
  21. mal (1)
  22. stephg (1)
  23. ljo (1)


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