08:00:38 #startmeeting Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration – May 28th 2020 08:00:38 Meeting started Thu May 28 08:00:38 2020 UTC. The chair is Jaymzz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 08:00:38 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 08:00:45 #info Meeting information and agenda can be found here: https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2020-May/009206.html 08:00:51 I am the meeting’s chairperson today, and will be doing my best to keep time and order. Please behave, respect the timings and be gentle. 08:01:02 #topic Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with # info 08:01:10 #info James Noori - sailor @ Jolla 08:01:31 No topic for today except for general discussion, so I don't expect many attendees :) 08:01:32 #info nobodyinperson - community 08:01:36 #info Ville Nummela - sailor@Jolla 08:02:41 #info David Llewellyn-Jones - sailor @ jolla 08:04:13 oka couple more would be nice XD 08:04:16 okay* 08:04:22 Quiet today. 08:04:23 yes... :-) 08:04:39 yeah, despite a reminder email 08:04:49 #info piggz communit proter 08:05:01 s/porter 08:05:05 Here we have an i 08:05:18 *important one :-) 08:05:24 indeed 08:05:38 huh 08:06:19 #info Damien Caliste, community 08:06:27 piggz: we were just discussing that it is quiet today, then a porter shows up (you) which makes you a rather important one ;) 08:06:48 #info Chris Williams - community 08:06:57 heh .... i dont think i have anything to add, just here cos im available :) 08:07:21 Yeah no worries on that :) we may not have much to talk about today anyhow 08:07:26 I'm changing the topic 08:07:29 Plus we have the press here today :) 08:07:44 #topic general discussion (30 min) 08:08:52 I suppose there are no news concerning the PinePhone? (I know, same old story...) 08:09:38 The UBPorts community edition is just about to ship :-) 08:09:51 nobodyinperson: well, our community edition can make calls 08:09:52 piggz, it looked like you had some progress with fingerprints? 08:09:54 Short meeting today, I see :D 08:10:01 flypig: maybe a little 08:10:03 #info Nico, community 08:10:21 Nico[m]: Yeah, welcome :) 08:10:41 nobodyinperson: No official news on that front 08:10:54 piggz, did you get enrolment to work? 08:10:56 Sometimes it gets hard to keep track of when friday is these days :3 08:11:01 piggz: Ah cool. I'm really looking forward to putting SailfishOS on mine :-) 08:11:07 flypig: i did 08:11:17 and identify 08:11:29 Should I wait for an official Sailfish edition PinePhone, or should I just buy the UBPorts version? :3 08:11:37 What else is needed? That sounds like everything? 08:12:17 flypig: i need to implement the proper dbus api .... thats today .... i hope today it will properly work with the volla 08:12:33 Sounds amazing. Nice work. 08:12:36 Nico[m]: I'd buy one. The hardware will be widely compatible, I suggest. 08:12:49 becuase i dont know the api, im relying on dbus-monitor output, and running "strings" on the jolla binary :D 08:13:30 nobodyinperson: Well, I was hoping an official one would support the sailfish devs too, but you're probably right :3 08:13:39 Haha. That sounds challenging :) 08:13:47 piggz: can we ask for api docs? 08:13:52 Nico[m]: Ah right. 08:14:04 Nico[m]: yeah, that would be nice, but weve not had any talks about an official version 08:14:12 or was that asked already and reply was ... "we have to discuss it internally" 08:14:12 rinigus: i guess we can ask ? 08:14:37 rinigus: given the usual responses i get....... :D 08:14:42 piggz, there should be introspection on the dbus api. 08:15:14 flypig: i think i have enough of the api to enroll/identify and signal state, but not the strings needed for the state 08:15:22 piggz: So.... I'll just buy 2 then? ;p 08:15:30 they all start FPSTATE_, so strings may help 08:15:38 Ah, I see. 08:15:55 piggz: I guess a SailfishOS community edition has to involve Jolla, right? 08:15:55 piggz: but the other device you tried before volla was also qualcomm? and failed as for me so far? 08:16:14 Could we provide those strings Jaymzz, ViGe? 08:16:48 rinigus: yes ..... i wasnt sure if it was the software, or that fact that my pro1 exploded into parts when it fell out of my cycling jacket pocket!!!!! 08:17:21 piggz: I hope you managed to reassemble it back... 08:17:43 Nice, a puzzle phone 08:17:54 Nico[m]: xD 08:17:59 rinigus: yes, only the buttons are not great anymore, and i have a new screen to fit .... becuase afte the inital repair, i dropped it again!!! 08:18:03 flypig: we could, but given how these things usually go, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for them 08:18:27 ViGe: and i want an implementation by today!! ;) 08:18:49 it was hard work getting it all together yesterday, my head was exploding 08:20:00 flypig: in the video, were you able to make out the show in the background audio? 08:20:19 piggz: have you figured out how to forget a fingerprint? 08:20:33 piggz, let me have another listen. It's verrrrry quiet. 08:20:41 rinigus: yes, there is a clear button on the test app 08:21:04 rinigus: i had to implement that becuae i went to make the video, but ran out of space to store a FP!! 08:21:09 Is that data? 08:21:17 And #1? 08:21:19 yep 08:21:31 re-watching from season 1 :D 08:22:13 rinigus: seems it can store 5 finger prints here 08:22:25 Haha :) How does identification work in TNG? I think it's all voice + four letter high security codes to set the ship to self destruct. No fingerprints. 08:23:04 flypig: needs first officer to agree to self destruct 08:23:21 2FA then. 08:27:14 I'd better add this for clarity: https://twitter.com/adampigg/status/1265752397604937729 08:27:29 as ive never used an official device with FP support, can you bypass the FP and use a code, assuming i dont implement the api correctly first time? 08:28:24 piggz: If you mess up the FP a few times, it will ask you for the code or you can even enter the code directly, iirc 08:28:32 piggz: that should not be a problem 08:28:33 thats fine then 08:29:21 Yeah, it just shows you the code prompt, where you can actually enter the FP, even though it isn't hinted 08:30:35 Alright guys, if there's nothing more, I think we should move on :) 08:31:13 Well, I don't want to repeat the same questions every meeting, I'll ask them in the next one again ;p 08:31:13 #topic next meeting time and date (5 min) 08:31:29 Nico[m]: Feel fre to create a topic ;) 08:31:41 #info Next meeting will be held on June 11th 2020 at 08:00 UTC 08:32:01 Nah, it's just the same question for the forum and stuffs, doesn't make sense to have a topic for that :3 08:32:21 Nico[m]: ah ok, yeah let's see how the progress has been until next time 08:32:46 :D 08:33:06 Ending the meeting :) 08:33:06 Anyway, thanks for the meeting goes back to do his job 08:33:13 Nico[m]: Thank you 08:33:24 Thanks Jaymzz. 08:33:27 And thanks everyone for attending! Talk to you in 2 weeks 08:33:32 #endmeeting