#sailfishos-meeting: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration – August 21st 2020
Meeting started by Jaymzz at 10:00:20 UTC
(full logs).
Meeting summary
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- Meeting information and agenda can be found
here:
https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-irc-21st-aug-2020/1596
(Jaymzz,
10:00:30)
- Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with # info (Jaymzz, 10:01:03)
- James Noori - Community (Jaymzz,
10:01:20)
- Andrew Branson - sailor @ Jolla (abranson,
10:01:33)
- Sefriol - Community (Sefriol,
10:01:41)
- Leszek Lesner - Community + Dev (leszek3,
10:02:01)
- fridlmue - Community (fridlmue,
10:02:06)
- Jussi Maaniitty - sailor @ Jolla (maajussi,
10:02:23)
- Karry - Community, developer (karry,
10:02:36)
- David Llewellyn-Jones - sailor @ Jolla
(flypig,
10:02:48)
- nekron - DevOp (nekron_home,
10:03:01)
- Pami Ketolainen - sailor @ Jolla (pketo,
10:03:17)
- Björn Bidar - sailor @ Jolla (Thaodan,
10:03:23)
- Santhosh - Community (Santhosh,
10:03:40)
- AOSP10 based ports (20 min by rinigus) (Jaymzz, 10:05:48)
- From looking at
https://github.com/libhybris/libhybris 4 and Android Q PR
specifically, it seems that there is not much activity on
development of Android 10 support. I wonder what is the current
status of AOSP10 support (in case if it is not all published). If
work has not started on it by Jolla developers, whether it is
planned and, if it is, when do you plan to work on it. (Jaymzz,
10:05:59)
- https://github.com/libhybris/libhybris
(Jaymzz,
10:06:04)
- Leif-Jöran Olsson, community member
(ljo_,
10:06:22)
- Android 10 support is on the roadmap, but there
is no schedule available that we could commit to at this
point. (Jaymzz,
10:07:32)
- E2E testing in Sailfish (by sefriol – 10 min) (Jaymzz, 10:21:15)
- E2E testing is one of the key aspects to make
reliable and tested software, most popular (or atleast user
friendly) webapp testers being Cypress.io 1. There seems to be
little to no E2E testing capabilities provided as a base line or
atleast the documentation is very limited. I stumbled upon
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/320649391_Method_and_tools_for_automated_end-to-end_testing_of_applications_for_sailfish_
(Jaymzz,
10:27:17)
- https://www.researchgate.net/publication/320649391_Method_and_tools_for_automated_end-to-end_testing_of_applications_for_sailfish_OS
(Jaymzz,
10:27:26)
- https://bitbucket.org/yarfruct/sailfish-os-qml-test-runner/src/default/
(Jaymzz,
10:27:34)
- We are using internally qmltestrunner for
testing QML components. That tool is available for all
(https://git.sailfishos.org/mer-core/qtdeclarative/tree/mer-5.6/tools/qmltestrunner
and qt5-qtdeclarative-devel-tools package in our repositories) and
community can use it for testing own applications. For HW testing we
are using CSD tools and porters should use that for verifying
functionality of different HW features. (Jaymzz,
10:27:52)
- https://git.sailfishos.org/mer-core/qtdeclarative/tree/mer-5.6/tools/qmltestrunner
(Jaymzz,
10:27:59)
- https://bitbucket.org/yarfruct/sailfish-os-qml-test-runner
is not public (birdzhang,
10:28:55)
- Native Banking Apps for SailfishOS (by sefriol – 10 min) (Jaymzz, 10:36:38)
- Currently, you are pretty much required to have
a second device if your bank only allows SafetyNet passing devices
to run as credential client. VTB24 seems to have an closed source
banking app for AuroraOS 2. Any insight from Jolla’s side if there
is any posssible progress in bringing native banking apps to
Sailfish.
https://together.jolla.com/question/11734/mobilebanking/
(Jaymzz,
10:36:46)
- https://together.jolla.com/question/11734/mobilebanking/
(Jaymzz,
10:36:55)
- It would be valuable to understand if there are
particular enabling technologies that banks require and which should
be provided at OS level - without which banking apps won't work. If
the enablers (API) are public, the community could provide apps for
individual banks/countries. (Jaymzz,
10:37:07)
- https://crosskey.io/stores/s-pankki/apis
(Thaodan,
10:43:18)
- Separating QML components from closed source and publishing them to git (by sefriol – 5 min) (Jaymzz, 10:49:43)
- This has come up before. Currently, if
community sees a bug or wants to propose a change in core app’s UI,
the source is only available within the phone / emulator / SDK. Is
there a problem with separating these components from the closed
source repositories and publishing them in gitso that community
could do pull requests on them? (Jaymzz,
10:49:51)
- This is something that could be made possible,
by for example mirroring the QML code in git. We would need to alter
the licence and hold the copyright for all contributions, but the
possibility to do this exists. Action taken to study this
further. (Jaymzz,
10:50:01)
- ACTION: maajussi is
going to dig more on this topic and get back to the community
(Jaymzz,
10:55:59)
- Multiple 2+ cameras support (by Mister_Magister – 15 min) (Jaymzz, 10:59:33)
- Lately i’ve successfully created initial
support of multi-camera. On some devices auxiliary cameras are
provided same way as other 2 but sfos is based around front and back
camera while we need to support camera id 2 and higher. My initial
changes are nowhere near merging, but it’s something jolla should
start think about regarding jolla-camera ui. (Jaymzz,
10:59:43)
- It seems multiple cameras are in common place
for the device category we have been supporting in co-operation with
Sony Open Devices. It is likely that we will support this in
future. (Jaymzz,
11:00:00)
- https://git.sailfishos.org/mer-core/qtmultimedia/merge_requests/34
(flypig,
11:10:06)
- https://github.com/sailfishos/gst-droid/pull/56
(flypig,
11:10:12)
- general discussion (15 min) (Jaymzz, 11:11:35)
- next meeting time and date (5 min) (Jaymzz, 11:32:46)
- Next meeting will be held on September 3rd 2020
at 08:00 UTC (Jaymzz,
11:33:19)
Meeting ended at 11:34:15 UTC
(full logs).
Action items
- maajussi is going to dig more on this topic and get back to the community
Action items, by person
- maajussi
- maajussi is going to dig more on this topic and get back to the community
People present (lines said)
- Jaymzz (61)
- flypig (43)
- leszek3 (33)
- Mister_Magister (27)
- Sefriol (26)
- rinigus (19)
- Thaodan (17)
- ApBBB (16)
- maajussi (10)
- TheKit (7)
- Wunderfitz (6)
- mal (6)
- Kabouik_ (5)
- fridlmue (3)
- sailbot_ (2)
- abranson (2)
- PeperJohnny (2)
- karry (1)
- nekron_home (1)
- pketo (1)
- Santhosh (1)
- ljo_ (1)
- birdzhang (1)
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