#sailfishos-meeting: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 19th August 2021

Meeting started by abr at 07:01:47 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

    1. Meeting information and agenda can be found here: (abr, 07:02:13)
    2. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-irc-19th-august-2021/7534 (abr, 07:02:13)

  2. Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with #info (abr, 07:02:41)
    1. abranson - Mr Branson (abr, 07:03:15)
    2. Otto Mäkelä - community (ExTechOp, 07:03:19)
    3. Chris Adams, privateer for Jolla (chriadam, 07:03:22)
    4. Lukas Karas - community developer (karry, 07:03:34)
    5. David Llewellyn-Jones - sailor @ jolla (flypig, 07:04:53)
    6. fridlmue - community (fridl, 07:04:55)

  3. interaction hints in apps (5 min -- asked by thigg) (abr, 07:08:18)
    1. <thigg> InteractionHints are a useful way to communicate to the user, what they can do. when triggered they show a text and highlight a component on the screen. (abr, 07:08:28)
    2. However, there is no official documentation on them but many apps actually use them. Are there any plans to release them to the public soon? (abr, 07:08:44)
    3. <thigg> Untested Example: TouchInteractionHint used in: (abr, 07:08:44)
    4. https://gist.github.com/jaymzznoori/a980314f8248e0a1e7904c29c88ecdf3 (abr, 07:08:44)
    5. <Jolla> You're right! For some odd reason looks like the API documentation was never provided, even though the interaction hint components (TapInteractionHint, TouchInteractionHint, InteractionHintLabel, FirstTimeUseCounter) are part of the public API (Sailfish.Silica module) and even Silica Component Gallery has code examples on how to use them. (abr, 07:09:18)

  4. Long term viability of Xperia line & possible official port for other phone with long term support (12.5 min -- asked by lqramen) (abr, 07:14:51)
    1. <lqramen> There have been some topic in the forum lately about stability of the official SFOS incl. Alien Dalvik, in particular the latest X10ii release. Various users express their frustration that using SFOS X as stable mobile device. (abr, 07:15:17)
    2. <lqramen> It appears that for each SFOSX release with a new Xperia phone there are alot of new bugs being introduced further adding to the instability of the general experience. We all aware that Jolla has limited resources SFOS public release is also balanced with other commerical commitments. (abr, 07:15:25)
    3. <lqramen> However this raises the question why is there need for repeated rebuilds and rework for bugs for each Xperia release. By the time a release is stable the model of phone is difficult to obtain. (abr, 07:15:31)
    4. <lqramen> The discussion was raised about having another phone with a more stable hardware outlook as the baseline for a SFOS offical port. (abr, 07:15:41)
    5. <lqramen> Fairphone was mentioned as a prospecive candidate as there is an unlocked bootloader has officaly support, hardware is stable (alebit not cutting edge) and has a long term stable outlook availability and spare parts etc… Community port for SFOS on Fairphone is also in highly working state. (abr, 07:15:50)
    6. <lqramen> Given the limited and resources and hardware outlook for Xperia 10ii(i) what is Jollas plan going forth to provide a stable platform going forth. (abr, 07:16:01)
    7. <lqramen> Are phone outside Xperia line in the scope of Jolla to proivde offical support and sell licences ? (abr, 07:16:01)
    8. <Jolla> New Sailfish X devices often require newer Android device adaptations and introduce new capabilities (fingerprint, 64bit, etc.). In sense they don't present rework, but come with new, previously untackled issues that need to be sorted for the platform to evolve. We are constantly evaluating our options, but don't yet have new supported devices to announce. (abr, 07:16:32)
    9. thigg - community dev, sorry for being late (thilo[m], 07:18:02)

  5. General discussion (30 min) (abr, 07:37:50)
  6. Next meeting time and date (5 min) (abr, 08:05:51)
    1. Next meeting will be held on Thursday 2nd September 2021 at 7:00am UTC: 2021-09-02T07Z (abr, 08:08:59)


Meeting ended at 08:09:17 UTC (full logs).

Action items

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People present (lines said)

  1. abr (66)
  2. chriadam (28)
  3. flypig (24)
  4. fridl (13)
  5. rinigus (13)
  6. ExTechOp (7)
  7. EA3ICN (6)
  8. thilo[m] (3)
  9. bfd_fr (3)
  10. sailbot (2)
  11. karry (1)


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