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#sailfishos-meeting: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 1st September 2022
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Meeting started by flypig at 07:00:08 UTC. The full logs are available
at
https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2022/sailfishos-meeting.2022-09-01-07.00.log.html
.



Meeting summary
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* Meeting information and agenda can be found here:  (flypig, 07:00:16)
* LINK:
  https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-irc-1st-september-2022/12698
  (flypig, 07:00:21)
* Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with #info
  (flypig, 07:00:42)
  * Otto Mäkelä, community  (ExTechOp, 07:00:46)
  * Ville Nummela, sailor @ jolla  (ViGe, 07:00:56)
  * David Llewellyn-Jones, another sailor @ jolla  (flypig, 07:01:06)
  * Björ Bidar, yet another sailor @ jolla  (Thaodan, 07:02:19)
  * Raine Mäkeläinen sailor @ Jolla  (rainemak, 07:02:23)
  * Nico, noisy community  (Nico, 07:02:50)
  * sebix, community  (sebix[m], 07:03:03)
  * Andrew Branson, sailor  (abr, 07:03:17)
  * Jacek Jagosz, community  (JacekJagosz[m], 07:05:49)

* Update: What are the upcoming planned changes for harbour validation?
  (10 mins -- asked by jolla)  (flypig, 07:07:59)
  * <jolla> There have been some interesting looking PRs merged into the
    harbour validator recently.  (flypig, 07:08:04)
  * <jolla> Does this mean we can now use more things in the Jolla
    Store? Will this affect Sailjail permissions too?  (flypig,
    07:08:11)
  * <ViGe> The plan is simply to allow as many new APIs as possible
    [from 4.5.0], given the limits we have on time and resources.
    (flypig, 07:17:56)
  * <ViGe> Because we lack the resources, we had to lower the bar a
    little bit in order to get the APIs in.  (flypig, 07:19:00)
  * <ViGe> While the new APIs will have their documentation in
    https://sailfishos.org/develop/docs/, you will find out that for
    most of the new APIS the documentation is quite empty, at least in
    the beginning.  (flypig, 07:19:04)
  * <ViGe> Some of the APIs are still not 100% stable, so we can't
    really promise that we won't make API breaking changes to them in
    the future.  (flypig, 07:19:08)
  * <ViGe> So far, we have in the pipeline Sailfish Secrets and Crypto,
    QtLocation, Sailfish Media, Sailfish Contacts, Sailfish Accounts and
    Sailfish Telephony. And hopefully we can add some more.  (flypig,
    07:19:11)
  * <ViGe> This will affect Sailjail permissions as well - the
    permissions needed to use the new APIs will be allowed.  (flypig,
    07:19:14)
  * Which APIs end up Harbour allow is one thing and other thing is that
    more APIs will appear in the https://sailfishos.org/develop/docs/ .
    For some APIs there may not be connection between documentation
    available and Harbour allowed.  (rainemak, 07:20:07)

* Do new SFOS versions use the newest device configurations from Sony?
  (5 min -- asked by JacekJagosz)  (flypig, 07:21:25)
  * <JacekJagosz> While investigating this issue:  (flypig, 07:21:34)
  * LINK:
    https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/xperia-10-iii-uses-performance-governor-for-gold-cores-where-it-probably-shouldnt/12695
    (flypig, 07:21:38)
  * <JacekJagosz> I traced it back to Sony's Lena config, where CPU
    cores were improperly configured.  (flypig, 07:21:47)
  * <JacekJagosz> I discussed it there, and my pull request to fix it
    was merged immediately:  (flypig, 07:21:56)
  * LINK: https://github.com/sonyxperiadev/device-sony-lena/pull/21
    (flypig, 07:22:14)
  * <JacekJagosz> So my question then is, will next SFOS version use
    this fixed config?  (flypig, 07:22:18)
  * <JacekJagosz> Does new version always use newest config (that was
    available during development), or is it updated only when there was
    something really important in there?  (flypig, 07:22:25)
  * <Jolla> Thank you for your excellent work in fixing the issue
    JacekJagosz.  (flypig, 07:22:55)
  * <Jolla> As can be seen on the pull request, Thaodan reviewed your
    changes and concluded that they needed to be pushed into the r-mr1
    branch of Sony’s repositories in order fot them to be integrated
    with Xperia 10 III devices running Sailfish OS.  (flypig, 07:23:02)
  * <Jolla> (the branch name represent the Android Version name)
    (flypig, 07:23:13)
  * <Jolla> Sony went ahead and did this on 24th August, so we’re now in
    a position to integrate this with Sailfish OS, which we hope to do
    for the next release (but we can’t guarantee it at this stage).
    (flypig, 07:23:21)
  * My changes fixed Sony's CPU configuration  (JacekJagosz[m],
    07:27:19)
  * dr_gogeta86 - community  (dr_gogeta86, 07:29:49)
  * <JacekJagosz[m]> [The changes] should result in lower power
    consumption  (flypig, 07:33:16)

* Open PR discussion (10 min -- asked by jolla)  (flypig, 07:39:23)
  * <jolla> Any open PRs to discuss?  (flypig, 07:39:28)
  * No open PRs to discuss today.  (flypig, 07:43:19)

* Update: Untracked bug reports (5 min -- asked by pherjung)  (flypig,
  07:43:21)
  * <jolla> The Community Bug Coordination Team have done a superb job
    once again this fortnight.  (flypig, 07:43:28)
  * <Jolla> - 9 new bugs added to our internal database and tagged as
    "tracked"  (flypig, 07:43:33)
  * <Jolla> - 4 bugs marked as "fixed"  (flypig, 07:43:37)
  * <Jolla> - 1 bug moved to the "General" category.  (flypig, 07:43:41)
  * LINK:
    https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/introducing-new-tool-bugger-the-inofficial-sfos-bug-reporting-tool/12787
    (Nico, 07:44:53)

* General discussion (20 min)  (flypig, 07:50:31)
  * LINK:
    https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/10iii-crashes-with-beep-when-plugged-into-docking-station/12481
    I've just this morning figured out this dramatic crash happens also
    to a freshly booted Xperia 10III  (ExTechOp, 07:50:49)
  * : fridlmue, community  (fridl, 07:53:29)
  * The Bug Coordination Team have worked on a nice app for easy
    submission of bugs.  (flypig, 08:12:56)
  * LINK:
    https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/introducing-new-tool-bugger-the-inofficial-sfos-bug-reporting-tool/12787
    (flypig, 08:12:58)

* Next meeting time and date (5 min)  (flypig, 08:14:47)
  * <Thaodan> provided extra info on GitHub  (flypig, 08:16:34)
  * LINK: https://github.com/sonyxperiadev/device-sony-lena/pull/22
    (flypig, 08:16:38)
  * Next meeting will be held on Thursday 15th September 2022 at 07:00am
    UTC: 2022-09-15T0700Z  (flypig, 08:16:48)

Meeting ended at 08:16:58 UTC.




Action Items
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Action Items, by person
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* **UNASSIGNED**
  * (none)




People Present (lines said)
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* flypig (112)
* Nico (37)
* Thaodan (26)
* JacekJagosz[m] (20)
* ViGe (13)
* ExTechOp (11)
* rainemak (7)
* abr (7)
* sebix[m] (5)
* sailbot (3)
* fridl (3)
* dr_gogeta86 (2)
* Crabster (1)




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