#sailfishos-meeting: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 10th November 2022

Meeting started by flypig at 08:00:52 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

    1. Meeting information and agenda can be found here: (flypig, 08:01:00)
    2. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-irc-10th-november-2022/13368 (flypig, 08:01:04)

  2. Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with #info (flypig, 08:01:24)
    1. Otto Mäkelä, community (ExTechOp, 08:01:31)
    2. thigg, community dev (thilo[m], 08:01:55)
    3. David Llewellyn-Jones, meeting chair and sailor @ jolla (flypig, 08:02:08)
    4. Björn Bidar, Sailor @ Jolla (Thaodan, 08:02:27)
    5. Ruben De Smet, community (rubdos[m], 08:03:47)
    6. Andrew Branson - sailor (abr, 08:04:55)
    7. Ville Nummela - Sailor @ Jolla (ViGe, 08:05:14)

  3. Open PR discussion (10 mins -- asked by thigg) (flypig, 08:07:56)
    1. <thigg> Any updates on the following PR? (flypig, 08:08:01)
    2. <thigg> https://github.com/sailfishos/llvm/pull/1 (flypig, 08:08:08)
    3. https://github.com/sailfishos/llvm/pull/1#issuecomment-1166465898 (rubdos[m], 08:15:13)
    4. https://firefox-source-docs.mozilla.org/writing-rust-code/update-policy.html?rdfrom=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.mozilla.org%2Findex.php%3Ftitle%3DRust_Update_Policy_for_Firefox%26redirect%3Dno <- useful table (rubdos[m], 08:20:58)
    5. Rust update policy for Gecko (flypig, 08:21:44)
    6. The PR requires a final patch (to remove out-of-line atomic calls), after which it can be tested with gecko and merged if it doesn't cause problems. This work is now on Jolla's table, but will require some time to look into. (flypig, 08:31:20)
    7. rubdos[m] offered to help with builds, input etc. We just need to ask. (flypig, 08:31:33)

  4. Untracked bug reports (5 mins -- asked by thigg) (flypig, 08:32:42)
    1. <Jolla> The Community Bug Coordination Team have done a superb job once again this fortnight. (flypig, 08:32:52)
    2. <Jolla> As a result of their work, we now have: (flypig, 08:32:58)
    3. <Jolla> 9 new high quality bug reports recorded internally and tagged as "tracked". (flypig, 08:33:02)
    4. <Jolla> 2 bug reports tagged as "fixed" and closed. (flypig, 08:33:07)
    5. <Jolla> 1 bug queried for more information. (flypig, 08:33:11)
    6. "papercut" bugs: switching mobile <=> wifi networks and Android <=> Sailfish clipboard issues. (flypig, 08:47:07)
    7. ExTechOp offered to try to reproduce the clipboard bugs. (flypig, 08:47:28)

  5. General discussion (20 min) (flypig, 08:48:58)
    1. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/trying-the-guest-user-feature-destroyed-all-my-data/2964/3 (Thaodan, 09:01:40)
    2. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/multi-user-android-user-data-get-deleted-and-lost-device-reset/11520 (Thaodan, 09:01:53)
    3. We noticed these two issues with appear to have similar causes. But we have trouble figuring the root of these. Any information on these such as for example logs, testcases can help. Please inform of if you have any under these threads. (Thaodan, 09:03:30)
    4. <ExTechOp> It would be really nice if there was a simple app for switching from "day mode" to "night mode" (there used to be, several SFOS upgrades ago), Situations did this but has now run against sailjail limitations and is currently not usable as-is. (flypig, 09:24:30)
    5. This also depends on a fix for https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/12565 (flypig, 09:24:38)
    6. Thaodan gave an update on upgrading QEMU in the SDK to allow GraalVM to work there. (flypig, 09:24:46)
    7. <Thaodan> I have the updated sb2 patches for qemu working on Arch Linux, I've tested them on SailfishOS too but we need to raise the kernel headers version to do that properly. (flypig, 09:24:51)
    8. We're not aware of any other workarounds for GraalVM. (flypig, 09:24:55)
    9. ExTechOp asked about binary blobs on the phone: "which ones of these get updated by SFOS to newer releases" (flypig, 09:24:59)
    10. <Thaodan> They don't get updated with SailfishOs releases (flypig, 09:25:03)
    11. <ExTechOp> I believe new Android releases occasionally also update some of these, is there any mechanism to do this under SFOS? (flypig, 09:25:12)
    12. <abr> No, you can only get those through that Emma tool (flypig, 09:25:17)
    13. Concerning the user date being lost, dcaliste explained his experiences. (flypig, 09:25:30)
    14. <dcalste> I did the rsync with the UI stopped, loggued via ssh (I stopped the user slice via systemctl as far as I remember and then rsync from a JollaC as root with something like rsync -az jollaC:/home/nemo /home and then rename the nemo dir into defaultuser). (flypig, 09:25:34)
    15. The process was 1) clean install (including AAS during the Welcome process), 2) rsync over /home/defaultuser as you describe, 3) create new guest user, 4) switch back to original user. (flypig, 09:25:37)
    16. <dcaliste> Thaodan, as far as I remember, I didn't use AD before doing the rsync, but surely after doing it and before playing with user switch (flypig, 09:25:41)

  6. Next meeting time and date (5 min) (flypig, 09:41:56)
    1. Next meeting will be held on Thursday 24th November 2022 at 08:00am UTC: 2022-11-24T0800Z (flypig, 09:43:18)


Meeting ended at 09:43:39 UTC (full logs).

Action items

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People present (lines said)

  1. flypig (96)
  2. Thaodan (86)
  3. rubdos[m] (41)
  4. thilo[m] (27)
  5. ExTechOp (18)
  6. abr (16)
  7. dcaliste (8)
  8. sailbot (2)
  9. ViGe (1)


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