#sailfishos-meeting: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 22nd June 2023

Meeting started by ViGe at 07:00:03 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

    1. Meeting information and agenda can be found here: (ViGe, 07:00:09)
    2. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-irc-22nd-june-2023/15830 (ViGe, 07:00:12)

  2. Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with #info (ViGe, 07:00:21)
    1. poetaster community (poetaster, 07:00:27)
    2. Ville Nummela, sailor @ Jolla, chairperson today (ViGe, 07:00:40)
    3. Raine Mäkeläinen, sailor @ Jolla (rainemak, 07:00:52)
    4. David Llewellyn-Jones, community (flypig, 07:00:54)
    5. Simonas Leleiva -- privateer for Jolla (sledges, 07:00:56)
    6. Lukáš Karas, community (karry, 07:01:04)

  3. User space low memory killer (5-10 min -- asked by karry) (ViGe, 07:05:06)
    1. <karry> Many users, including me, are not satisfied with current behavior of low-memory-killer kernel module. (ViGe, 07:05:11)
    2. <karry> Even Android moved from kernel module to more flexible user-space lmkd. (ViGe, 07:05:15)
    3. <karry> I'm not saying that it would solve all memory related issues, but some flexibility would help here. (ViGe, 07:05:18)
    4. <karry> Is there any plan to move to user space implementation for SFOS? What implementation? (ViGe, 07:05:21)
    5. <karry> lmkd from android, systemd-oomd, facebook's lmk or other implementation? (ViGe, 07:05:24)
    6. <karry> Is there something where community may help? (ViGe, 07:05:27)
    7. <Jolla> We are investigating possible solutions. (ViGe, 07:05:33)
    8. <Jolla> It's worth noting that because of the different adaptations and kernel versions, different devices may need different approaches. (ViGe, 07:05:37)
    9. <sledges> in 4.4.0 we have disabled lmkd that was inside Android AppSupport container (ViGe, 07:14:36)

  4. python3-sympy, python3-mpmath (10-15 min -- asked by poetaster) (ViGe, 07:15:04)
    1. <poetaster> Is it possible for these to allowed in harbour? I alone have 3 apps using them and packaging for harbour is a real pita. (ViGe, 07:15:09)
    2. <poetaster> sympy is also quite large (end up with 10+mb rpm). (ViGe, 07:15:14)
    3. <poetaster> With @nephros help I have them in chum which is nice, but as with Jollas efforts for PIL, having packaged solution is not just much more convenient, but more sustainable. (ViGe, 07:15:18)
    4. <Jolla> Short answer: Not in the near future (ViGe, 07:15:25)
    5. <Jolla> Longer answer: (ViGe, 07:15:28)
    6. <Jolla> While having community packaging these certainly help, there is still substantial amount of work left, especially when you consider future maintenance. (ViGe, 07:15:31)
    7. <Jolla> Therefore, we must consider carefully each package, before committing into maintaining it. (ViGe, 07:15:35)
    8. Damien Caliste, community (dcaliste, 07:23:16)

  5. Open PR discussion (5 mins -- asked by jolla) (ViGe, 07:28:54)
    1. <jolla> Any open PRs to discuss? (ViGe, 07:29:02)

  6. General discussion (20 min) (ViGe, 07:38:55)
    1. https://openrepos.net/content/rikujolla/draft-map was one I wanted to fix. (poetaster, 07:53:52)

  7. Next meeting time and date (5 min) (ViGe, 07:58:02)
    1. Next meeting will be held on Thursday 17th August 2023 at 07:00am UTC: 2023-08-17T0700Z (ViGe, 08:03:07)


Meeting ended at 08:03:20 UTC (full logs).

Action items

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People present (lines said)

  1. ViGe (51)
  2. poetaster (23)
  3. sledges (15)
  4. flypig (6)
  5. karry (4)
  6. dcaliste (4)
  7. sailbot (2)
  8. rinigus (2)
  9. rainemak (1)
  10. flypig_ (1)


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