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#sailfishos-meeting: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 22nd June 2023
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Meeting started by ViGe at 07:00:03 UTC. The full logs are available at
https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2023/sailfishos-meeting.2023-06-22-07.00.log.html
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Meeting summary
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* Meeting information and agenda can be found here:  (ViGe, 07:00:09)
* LINK:
  https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-irc-22nd-june-2023/15830
  (ViGe, 07:00:12)
* Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with #info
  (ViGe, 07:00:21)
  * poetaster community  (poetaster, 07:00:27)
  * Ville Nummela, sailor @ Jolla, chairperson today  (ViGe, 07:00:40)
  * Raine Mäkeläinen, sailor @ Jolla  (rainemak, 07:00:52)
  * David Llewellyn-Jones, community  (flypig, 07:00:54)
  * Simonas Leleiva -- privateer for Jolla  (sledges, 07:00:56)
  * Lukáš Karas, community  (karry, 07:01:04)

* User space low memory killer (5-10 min -- asked by karry)  (ViGe,
  07:05:06)
  * <karry> Many users, including me, are not satisfied with current
    behavior of low-memory-killer kernel module.  (ViGe, 07:05:11)
  * <karry> Even Android moved from kernel module to more flexible
    user-space lmkd.  (ViGe, 07:05:15)
  * <karry> I'm not saying that it would solve all memory related
    issues, but some flexibility would help here.  (ViGe, 07:05:18)
  * <karry> Is there any plan to move to user space implementation for
    SFOS? What implementation?  (ViGe, 07:05:21)
  * <karry> lmkd from android, systemd-oomd, facebook's lmk or other
    implementation?  (ViGe, 07:05:24)
  * <karry> Is there something where community may help?  (ViGe,
    07:05:27)
  * <Jolla> We are investigating possible solutions.  (ViGe, 07:05:33)
  * <Jolla> It's worth noting that because of the different adaptations
    and kernel versions, different devices may need different
    approaches.  (ViGe, 07:05:37)
  * <sledges> in 4.4.0 we have disabled lmkd that was inside Android
    AppSupport container  (ViGe, 07:14:36)

* python3-sympy, python3-mpmath (10-15 min -- asked by poetaster)
  (ViGe, 07:15:04)
  * <poetaster> Is it possible for these to allowed in harbour? I alone
    have 3 apps using them and packaging for harbour is a real pita.
    (ViGe, 07:15:09)
  * <poetaster> sympy is also quite large (end up with 10+mb rpm).
    (ViGe, 07:15:14)
  * <poetaster> With @nephros help I have them in chum which is nice,
    but as with Jollas efforts for PIL, having packaged solution is not
    just much more convenient, but more sustainable.  (ViGe, 07:15:18)
  * <Jolla> Short answer: Not in the near future  (ViGe, 07:15:25)
  * <Jolla> Longer answer:  (ViGe, 07:15:28)
  * <Jolla> While having community packaging these certainly help, there
    is still substantial amount of work left, especially when you
    consider future maintenance.  (ViGe, 07:15:31)
  * <Jolla> Therefore, we must consider carefully each package, before
    committing into maintaining it.  (ViGe, 07:15:35)
  * Damien Caliste, community  (dcaliste, 07:23:16)

* Open PR discussion (5 mins -- asked by jolla)  (ViGe, 07:28:54)
  * <jolla> Any open PRs to discuss?  (ViGe, 07:29:02)

* General discussion (20 min)  (ViGe, 07:38:55)
  * LINK: https://openrepos.net/content/rikujolla/draft-map was one I
    wanted to fix.  (poetaster, 07:53:52)

* Next meeting time and date (5 min)  (ViGe, 07:58:02)
  * Next meeting will be held on Thursday 17th August 2023 at 07:00am
    UTC: 2023-08-17T0700Z  (ViGe, 08:03:07)

Meeting ended at 08:03:20 UTC.




Action Items
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Action Items, by person
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* **UNASSIGNED**
  * (none)




People Present (lines said)
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* ViGe (51)
* poetaster (23)
* sledges (15)
* flypig (6)
* karry (4)
* dcaliste (4)
* sailbot (2)
* rinigus (2)
* rainemak (1)
* flypig_ (1)




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