07:00:00 #startmeeting Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 12th Oct 2023 07:00:00 Meeting started Thu Oct 12 07:00:00 2023 UTC. The chair is rainemak. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 07:00:00 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 07:00:17 #info Meeting information and agenda can be found here: 07:00:17 #link https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-irc-12th-october-2023/16859 07:00:28 I am the meeting's chairperson today, and will be doing my best to keep time and order. Please respect the timings and bee-hive. 07:00:28 #topic Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with #info 07:01:41 #info David Llewellyn-Jones, community 07:01:45 #info Crabster - lurker 07:03:20 #info Raine Mäkeläinen, sailor @ Jolla, chairperson today 07:03:44 #info Sebix, community 07:05:26 looks like this one is going to community :-) 07:05:39 \o/ 07:05:44 very quiet today :/ 07:05:54 it seems so 07:05:59 #topic Jolla and Sailfish OS at FOSDEM (10mins -- asked by flypig) 07:06:05 #info pherjung, community 07:06:14 #info Some details about the topic: FOSDEM is scheduled for 3-4 February 07:06:14 #info 2024 in Brussels. Last year Jolla got a great reaction on the Linux 07:06:14 #info on Mobile stand alongside a number of other Mobile Linux 07:06:14 #info distributions. As there are plans for the stand to run again in 07:06:14 #info 2024, are any Sailors planning to attend and, if so, would they 07:06:16 #info be interested to help with the stand either officially or 07:06:17 #info unofficially? The stand CfP was recently released; deadline for 07:06:19 #info submissions is 8th December. 07:06:50 #info Thank you flypig! This is a good reminder. However, we have not 07:06:50 #info planed this. We'll write down the deadline. 07:07:27 #info Otto Mäkelä, community 07:07:44 (sorry about the delay) 07:07:46 I'm not aware whether there are sailors planning to attend 07:07:51 ExTechOp, no problem 07:07:59 welcome pherjung[m] as well 07:08:03 Thanks rainemak! Just for some additional info, it looks like the Linux on Mobile stand will go ahead (Mobian, Postmarket, SFOS + others). 07:08:36 If any sailors from Jolla are attending, or if anyone from the community would like to help, then that would be really great. Let me know and I can put you in touch. 07:08:50 Meaning similar setup as last year 07:09:18 It's looking that way yes. There may be some changes because there was so little space last year. And it has to be accepted too! 07:09:34 certainly 07:09:37 (accepted by the FOSDEM committee). 07:10:08 Also, I'm certainly hoping to attend myself, so looking forward to meeting other Sailfish OS users there! 07:11:22 It was a great event last time. 07:11:45 + Sailfish OS meetup 07:11:59 or dinner I should say 07:12:12 Yes, I really enjoyed it too, there was a great Sailfish contingent there. 07:13:08 yeah, was great fun last year 07:13:39 #info Andrew Branson, latecomer 07:13:46 We don't have other topics. I took liberty to handle thigg's question in context of open PR discussion 07:14:05 Thanks rainemak, that answers my question. Please encourage everyone to go ;) 07:15:03 Let's move on 07:15:10 #topic Open PR discussion (10 mins -- asked by jolla, thigg, flypig) 07:15:32 #info Let's handle thigg's open issue here as well 07:15:42 #info Closed PR URL: [nspr] Update to NSPR 4.35 RTM by llewelld · Pull Request #3 · sailfishos/nspr · GitHub 07:15:42 #link https://github.com/sailfishos/nspr/pull/3 07:15:42 #info Not an open PR but a closed one. Just taking the opportunity to thank @mal for his fast turnaround checking and merging it. 07:15:58 There's no action on this one, except to recognise mal's excellent work. 07:17:01 #info Open issue: pausing notifications · Issue #73 · nemomobile-ux/lipstick · GitHub 07:17:01 #link https://github.com/nemomobile-ux/lipstick/issues/73 07:17:01 #info I’d like to know what you think of it. 07:17:10 #info Report looks good. We just opened issues section to https://github.com/sailfishos/lipstick/issues 07:17:16 #info Would be good to clone issue there as well. 07:17:32 #info Like commented last time, not bad idea at all. How it is implemented 07:17:32 #info is another topic. 07:17:53 #link https://github.com/sailfishos/lipstick/issues 07:18:52 Has this raised any further thoughts? 07:21:58 Can someone remind me: does this need changes only in open source components? (sorry; I know we discussed this previously). 07:22:36 I believe that it requires lipstick-jolla-home changes as well. 07:22:49 Understood; thanks! 07:22:55 Maybe hackable from lipstick - not sure. 07:23:45 #info Damien Caliste, sorry very late 07:23:47 But it does look like there are open-source changes that could be made independently to lipstick, for example, to help support the ljh changes. 07:24:00 correct 07:24:43 this looks to be covered already 07:24:47 so let's move on 07:24:57 #info Any other open PRs to discuss? 07:25:45 afair last time we sorted out some PRs during the meeting :-) 07:26:27 we can come back to other PRs on generic discussion at the end 07:26:37 #topic Untracked bug reports (5 min -- asked by pherjung) 07:26:37 #info Untracked bug reports 07:26:37 #link https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-irc-12th-october-2023/16859/4 07:26:37 #info As always, the Community Bug Coordination Team have done a superb job. 07:26:37 #info As a result of their work, we now have: 07:26:38 #info 9 high quality bug reports now recorded internally and tagged as "tracked". 07:26:40 #info 1 bug waiting for more input. 07:28:08 https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/calendar-alarms-dont-work-for-recurring-events-since-sfos-4-5-x-x-solved/15263/40 this is looks be triggering still 07:28:12 rainemak, about this one: https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/calendar-alarms-dont-work-for-recurring-events-since-sfos-4-5-x-x-solved/15263/44 I'll give a look later today or tomorrow on the alarm not working for recurring events without end. 07:28:17 ;-) 07:28:38 same timing :-) 07:28:47 I'll see if I can reproduce and will report there. 07:28:54 thank you dcaliste 07:30:02 Actually the master branch has a completely rewritten handle of the recurring alarms, so it may work on master while still being broken on 4.5.0.24. Or broken on both. I'll see. 07:31:14 yeah, master is quite far. do you think it'd be possible to "merge" master to upgrade-4.5.0? 07:31:56 i.e. are there much changes on the upper layers of the stack 07:32:35 I know that technically rebase or merge for mkcal is not a big deal 07:34:17 Indeed, I need to check in nemo-qml-plugin-calendar. Doing it at the moment… 07:35:07 For instance, there is https://github.com/sailfishos/nemo-qml-plugin-calendar/commit/c5fab03c1504abf40bf66a9cb5dc44c43b437e3b 07:35:31 Checking if 4.5.0.24 mkcal contains this change for instance… 07:36:22 updating nemo-qml-plugin-calendar could be doable 07:36:28 as well 07:37:00 Which may have incidence on jolla-calendar. Checking also… 07:39:11 Yeh, this commit 7d016719 there is a large API change. Which requires to upgrade mkcal, nemo-qml-plugin-calendar and jolla-calendar in accordance. 07:40:14 But to be back on the issue reported on forum, I'll see if a fix can be done in upgrade-4.5.0 branch and see if this fix need to be propagated to master. 07:40:29 thank you 07:40:35 Let's move on to the general discussion. 07:40:40 #topic General discussion (5 min) 07:41:18 flypig, do you have any updates on the esr91 work other than your diary? 07:42:03 It continues :) I'm still stuck on the render pipeline, but working through the suggestions you gave me rainemak! Slowly making small steps of progress (so not stuck yet). 07:42:09 Some French users are complaining SailfishOS get silently unreachable (no way to get a call nor a sms) and nothing inform them 07:42:27 Has someone already got such issues? 07:42:28 flypig, realized those embedlite-components errors 07:43:12 also created sailfishos-esr91 branches where we can merge changes already 07:43:12 * pherjung[m] uploaded an image: (438KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/SpCYYXnDnzgSVxGXTpXMgDrW/5850722768826514962_119.jpg > 07:43:22 Do you think the embedlite-component errors are likely to be critical for the render? I'm hoping many of them will just break other thing like history say. 07:44:03 Thanks for making the branch; I hadn't noticed that. 07:44:09 flypig, shouldn't be... but to be on the same side just commend out frame script loaded and friends 07:44:21 s/same/safe/ 07:44:29 :thumbsup: ;) 07:44:51 I'll do that! 07:45:19 src/qmozview_p.cpp:165 it looks 07:45:39 pherjung[m], do you know the carrier ? The phone models ? 07:45:43 I doubt there's anything anymore left on the browser side regarding frame scripts 07:46:45 Commented out line 165. 07:46:46 pherjung[m], that's not good 07:46:51 dcaliste: X with Orange and X10 II with RED by SFR 07:48:06 Thanks, not something that I can try to reproduce myself, I'm using Free operator. 07:50:02 maybe ncartron could try to reproduce? 07:50:34 time's up... 5min over time actually 07:50:47 #topic Next meeting time and date (5 min) 07:50:47 Proposing Thursday 26th October at 07:00am UTC. 07:52:19 Looks good. Still no clock changes yet. 07:53:02 I look forward to the extra hour in bed all year ;) 07:53:18 I'm wondering if it's easy to monitor and trigger a notification 07:53:58 Maybe watching the connected cells? 07:54:14 Two weeks from now would be 2023-10-26 07:55:05 and 29th clocks are turned back 1 hour 07:55:45 should we take that into account or not? 07:56:06 when going forward? Either way works for me 07:57:07 ExTechOp, that's copy-paste typo. sorry 07:57:14 #info Next meeting will be held on Thursday 26th October 2023 at 07:00am UTC: 2023-10-26T0700Z 07:57:57 Thank you everyone! Once again good meeting! 07:58:10 Thank you rainemak, everyone! 07:58:14 thx #? 07:58:19 Thank you. 07:58:51 #endmeeting