#sailfishos-meeting: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 13th June 2024

Meeting started by rainemak at 07:00:32 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

    1. Meeting information and agenda can be found here: (rainemak, 07:00:32)
    2. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-13th-june-2024/18983 (rainemak, 07:00:32)

  2. Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with #info (rainemak, 07:00:32)
    1. Raine Mäkeläinen, sailor @ Jolla, chairperson today (rainemak, 07:00:45)
    2. Crabster - lurker (Crabster, 07:01:31)

  3. SailfishOS licence for 10iv and 10v - separate devices/licences, or considered as one? (2mins -- asked by PeegeeTips) (rainemak, 07:05:38)
    1. <PeegeeTips> An XA2 licence technically covered six sub-variants: XA2 (rainemak, 07:05:46)
    2. <PeegeeTips> (single/dual), XA2 Ultra (single/dual), XA2 Plus (single/dual). (rainemak, 07:05:46)
    3. <PeegeeTips> Given that the 10iv has been included after then end of sales (rainemak, 07:05:46)
    4. <PeegeeTips> life of its successor the 10v (and thus limited availability), (rainemak, 07:05:46)
    5. <PeegeeTips> and has been included mainly because it has near identical (rainemak, 07:05:46)
    6. <PeegeeTips> hardware to its successor (and thus low support cost), would it (rainemak, 07:05:47)
    7. <PeegeeTips> be reasonable to expect Jolla to sell a licence product that (rainemak, 07:05:49)
    8. <PeegeeTips> works with either device? i.e. there is a 10ii licence, there is (rainemak, 07:05:51)
    9. <PeegeeTips> a 10iii licence, and there is a 10iv/v licence. Justification - (rainemak, 07:05:53)
    10. <PeegeeTips> both devices are becoming harder to find, having a joint licence (rainemak, 07:05:55)
    11. <PeegeeTips> simply provides ease of mind that you can get a licence safe in (rainemak, 07:05:57)
    12. <PeegeeTips> the knowledge that it will work on whatever handset you can find (rainemak, 07:05:59)
    13. <PeegeeTips> that is still available to buy. (rainemak, 07:06:01)
    14. Giving 5mins (rainemak, 07:06:03)
    15. <Jolla> Thank you PeegeeTips for your suggestion / idea. Current one-time-fee (rainemak, 07:06:37)
    16. <Jolla> licenses you can find from shop.jolla.com. For new supported Sony models (rainemak, 07:06:37)
    17. <Jolla> we will also have one-time-fee license (perpetual) but pricing is not (rainemak, 07:06:37)
    18. <Jolla> yet settled. One-time-fee license would still be bound to a device. (rainemak, 07:06:37)
    19. <Jolla> Thus, a joint license is not likely an option. (rainemak, 07:06:37)

  4. Old Sailfish OS Version (2mins - asked by Sanginteret) (rainemak, 07:10:14)
    1. Otto Mäkelä, community (ExTechOp, 07:10:21)
    2. <Sanginteret> I would like to download old version of Sailfish OS on my Xperia (rainemak, 07:10:23)
    3. <Sanginteret> X. To see what it was like in the past. There is an unofficial (rainemak, 07:10:23)
    4. <Sanginteret> torrent repo, but it’s very slow. Could Jolla share an official (rainemak, 07:10:23)
    5. <Sanginteret> archive of old version ? (rainemak, 07:10:23)
    6. <Jolla> Thank you for asking. Unfortunately old version are not available. (rainemak, 07:10:37)

  5. Decouple the device encryption password and login screen password (1min -- asked by Systematics) (rainemak, 07:12:05)
    1. <Systematics> Does Jolla planning to decouple the device encryption password (rainemak, 07:12:13)
    2. <Systematics> and login screen password? A strong encryption for a mobile (rainemak, 07:12:13)
    3. <Systematics> device is important. For reaching a strong encryption, a complex (rainemak, 07:12:13)
    4. <Systematics> and long encryption key is needed. Passing that key one time at (rainemak, 07:12:13)
    5. <Systematics> the boot is not a problem but for regular usage (unlock) it (rainemak, 07:12:13)
    6. <Systematics> could be difficult. The Jolla Community Phone does not has a (rainemak, 07:12:15)
    7. <Systematics> fingerprint sensor, the Sony Xperia does have a fingerprint so (rainemak, 07:12:16)
    8. <Systematics> there was a “workaround” for unlocking in on these devices. (rainemak, 07:12:18)
    9. <Jolla> Thank you Systematics! Like pherjung commented after you, this has (rainemak, 07:12:54)
    10. <Jolla> been proposed earlier. Could be something to consider. (rainemak, 07:12:54)
    11. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/allow-to-decouple-luks-password-from-used-security-code/7950 (rainemak, 07:12:54)

  6. Open PR discussion (5 mins -- asked by Jolla) (rainemak, 07:17:13)
    1. <Jolla> Any open PRs to discuss? (rainemak, 07:17:26)

  7. General discussion (10 min) (rainemak, 07:21:03)
  8. Next meeting time and date (5 mins) (rainemak, 07:30:51)
    1. Next meeting will be held on Thursday 4th July 2024 at 07:00am UTC: 2024-07-04T0700Z (rainemak, 07:35:02)


Meeting ended at 07:35:28 UTC (full logs).

Action items

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  2. ExTechOp (6)
  3. sailbot (2)
  4. Crabster (2)


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