07:00:32 <rainemak> #startmeeting Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 13th June 2024
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07:00:32 <rainemak> #info Meeting information and agenda can be found here:
07:00:32 <rainemak> #link https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-13th-june-2024/18983
07:00:32 <rainemak> I am the meeting's chairperson today, and will be doing my best to keep time and order. Please respect the timings and bee-hive.
07:00:32 <rainemak> #topic Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with #info
07:00:45 <rainemak> #info Raine Mäkeläinen, sailor @ Jolla, chairperson today
07:01:31 <Crabster> #info Crabster - lurker
07:05:30 <rainemak> Maybe summer time affecting... not too many participants. Let's get started!
07:05:38 <rainemak> #topic SailfishOS licence for 10iv and 10v - separate devices/licences, or considered as one? (2mins -- asked by PeegeeTips)
07:05:46 <rainemak> #info <PeegeeTips> An XA2 licence technically covered six sub-variants: XA2
07:05:46 <rainemak> #info <PeegeeTips> (single/dual), XA2 Ultra (single/dual), XA2 Plus (single/dual).
07:05:46 <rainemak> #info <PeegeeTips> Given that the 10iv has been included after then end of sales
07:05:46 <rainemak> #info <PeegeeTips> life of its successor the 10v (and thus limited availability),
07:05:46 <rainemak> #info <PeegeeTips> and has been included mainly because it has near identical
07:05:47 <rainemak> #info <PeegeeTips> hardware to its successor (and thus low support cost), would it
07:05:49 <rainemak> #info <PeegeeTips> be reasonable to expect Jolla to sell a licence product that
07:05:51 <rainemak> #info <PeegeeTips> works with either device? i.e. there is a 10ii licence, there is
07:05:53 <rainemak> #info <PeegeeTips> a 10iii licence, and there is a 10iv/v licence. Justification -
07:05:55 <rainemak> #info <PeegeeTips> both devices are becoming harder to find, having a joint licence
07:05:57 <rainemak> #info <PeegeeTips> simply provides ease of mind that you can get a licence safe in
07:05:59 <rainemak> #info <PeegeeTips> the knowledge that it will work on whatever handset you can find
07:06:01 <rainemak> #info <PeegeeTips> that is still available to buy.
07:06:03 <rainemak> #info Giving 5mins
07:06:37 <rainemak> #info <Jolla> Thank you PeegeeTips for your suggestion / idea. Current one-time-fee
07:06:37 <rainemak> #info <Jolla> licenses you can find from shop.jolla.com. For new supported Sony models
07:06:37 <rainemak> #info <Jolla> we will also have one-time-fee license (perpetual) but pricing is not
07:06:37 <rainemak> #info <Jolla> yet settled. One-time-fee license would still be bound to a device.
07:06:37 <rainemak> #info <Jolla> Thus, a joint license is not likely an option.
07:10:11 <rainemak> Let's move on....
07:10:14 <rainemak> #topic Old Sailfish OS Version (2mins - asked by Sanginteret)
07:10:21 <ExTechOp> #info Otto Mäkelä, community
07:10:23 <rainemak> #info <Sanginteret> I would like to download old version of Sailfish OS on my Xperia
07:10:23 <rainemak> #info <Sanginteret> X. To see what it was like in the past. There is an unofficial
07:10:23 <rainemak> #info <Sanginteret> torrent repo, but it’s very slow. Could Jolla share an official
07:10:23 <rainemak> #info <Sanginteret> archive of old version ?
07:10:37 <rainemak> #info <Jolla> Thank you for asking. Unfortunately old version are not available.
07:10:42 <rainemak> Hi ExTechOp
07:12:05 <rainemak> #topic Decouple the device encryption password and login screen password (1min -- asked by Systematics)
07:12:13 <rainemak> #info <Systematics> Does Jolla planning to decouple the device encryption password
07:12:13 <rainemak> #info <Systematics> and login screen password? A strong encryption for a mobile
07:12:13 <rainemak> #info <Systematics> device is important. For reaching a strong encryption, a complex
07:12:13 <rainemak> #info <Systematics> and long encryption key is needed. Passing that key one time at
07:12:13 <rainemak> #info <Systematics> the boot is not a problem but for regular usage (unlock) it
07:12:15 <rainemak> #info <Systematics> could be difficult. The Jolla Community Phone does not has a
07:12:16 <rainemak> #info <Systematics> fingerprint sensor, the Sony Xperia does have a fingerprint so
07:12:18 <rainemak> #info <Systematics> there was a “workaround” for unlocking in on these devices.
07:12:20 <rainemak> Giving 5 mins as well.
07:12:54 <rainemak> #info <Jolla> Thank you Systematics! Like pherjung commented after you, this has
07:12:54 <rainemak> #info <Jolla> been proposed earlier. Could be something to consider.
07:12:54 <rainemak> #link https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/allow-to-decouple-luks-password-from-used-security-code/7950
07:17:13 <rainemak> #topic Open PR discussion (5 mins -- asked by Jolla)
07:17:26 <rainemak> #info <Jolla> Any open PRs to discuss?
07:20:50 <rainemak> I guess not... let's move on.
07:21:03 <rainemak> #topic General discussion (10 min)
07:22:09 <rainemak> My 2 cents, it was very nice to see flypig_ proceeding with esr91
07:22:10 <ExTechOp> Has Jolla noted the issue that came up with Sauna 4.6.0.12 and Aurora software installations? https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/release-notes-sauna-4-6-0-12/19007/2
07:22:39 <rainemak> ExTechOp, yes. noted.
07:25:06 <ExTechOp> Is the problem with Aurora or how SFOS does the installation, can it be expected to be fixed in the next release without the setting changes detailed there?
07:25:06 <ExTechOp> Some banking software refuses to work on a phone that has been changed to developer mode.
07:29:02 <rainemak> ExTechOp, I don't know details what has changed in the Aurora store but the issue is likely in our side. We have a fix for it. Not perfect but working.
07:29:17 <rainemak> remove likely :-)
07:30:24 <rainemak> Thanks ExTechOp for your questions
07:30:37 <rainemak> Let's schedule next meeting
07:30:51 <rainemak> #topic Next meeting time and date (5 mins)
07:30:51 <rainemak> Proposing Thursday 4th July at 07:00am UTC
07:30:57 <rainemak> I'm thinking that we'd skip fortnight newsletter next week due to midsummer. Then next newsletter would be 27th June and next community meeting week after that 4th July.
07:31:20 <ExTechOp> UK election day, and US independence day. Nice.
07:31:41 <rainemak> Overall, vacation period might be challenging.
07:32:55 <rainemak> In Finland, folks mostly on vacation during July... It has been shifting towards August but still for most July is the vacation month.
07:34:01 <rainemak> If 4th July looks reasonably let's try... we'll update if it looks that it's more feasible to push it forward.
07:34:25 <Crabster> k
07:34:46 <ExTechOp> Works4me.
07:35:02 <rainemak> #info Next meeting will be held on Thursday 4th July 2024 at 07:00am UTC: 2024-07-04T0700Z
07:35:13 <rainemak> Thank you all!
07:35:22 <rainemak> Enjoy summer
07:35:28 <rainemak> #endmeeting