08:01:37 #startmeeting Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 31st October 2024 08:01:37 Meeting started Thu Oct 31 08:01:37 2024 UTC. The chair is pvuorela. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 08:01:37 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. 08:01:53 #info Meeting information and agenda can be found here: 08:02:03 #link https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-31st-october-2024/20374 08:02:12 I am the meeting's chairperson today, and will be doing my best to keep time and order. Please respect the timings and bee-hive. 08:02:26 #topic Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with #info 08:02:32 #info Pekka Vuorela, Jolla 08:02:40 #info Otto Mäkelä, community 08:02:40 #info Joshua Strobl, community 08:02:59 #info Ville Nummela, community 08:03:06 #info David Llewellyn-Jones, community 08:03:08 #info Crabster - lurker 08:03:48 #info Matti Viljanen, Jolla 08:08:22 a bit quiet here today. lots of discussion on the forum, though. 08:08:32 #info nephros, Community Lurker 08:08:57 the 5 minutes passed, let's move forward. 08:09:07 #info No topics suggested in given deadline. Some late arrivals which will go to the next meeting as noted on the meeting announcement. 08:09:14 morning from my C2 which did *not* have problems, at all :) 08:10:14 the new item noted, though. will need some thinking if there's some testing we could use. 08:10:38 but we'll have the generic items 08:10:59 #topic Open PR discussion (5 mins -- asked by Jolla) 08:11:06 anything to discuss about? 08:12:07 any progress with sb2 bugs that we experienced at OBS when building qt6? 08:12:13 (morning) 08:12:21 Sorry I am late. But if you need any help with the C2 issues I am more the willing to help. But probably this is already discussed. 08:13:36 RXShorty: your offer noted and appreciated. the discussion item came late for this meeting so i didn't have anything prepared. 08:13:52 https://github.com/sailfishos/poppler/pull/5 please make a decision option a (thaodan) or option b (pvuorela) about the %files/%_includedir. 08:14:35 morning, also late. 08:14:40 ^^ sorry, that was me 08:15:04 nephros: i thought we had a conclusion there to just enable the unstable api and package it in the main -devel 08:15:08 the simple way 08:15:48 rinigus: sorry, i have no idea about those. who's been involved? 08:15:54 pvuorela: yeah and there's the small issue left whether multiple packages should own the indlude dir. OR do we drop all the separate -devel packages in to one? 08:17:17 pvuorela: I think mal was looking into it. it was discussed in the previous meeting as well 08:17:53 nephros: guess you mean the duplicate entry i commented about? no answer on the PR but i don't think we need two owners if one depends on the other. 08:18:59 we're btw over 5 minutes already 08:19:12 can extend a few minutes 08:20:21 rinigus: hm, this 000 permission thing, i guess 08:20:22 pvuorela: okay, I'll do just one owner, then squash and forcepush and we should be done. 08:20:31 nephros: thanks 08:20:32 pvuorela: yes, it is. 08:20:54 kind of major stumbling block for qt6 08:21:36 rinigus: alright. i'd guess it hasn't moved forward since, unfortunately 08:21:40 without this fixed we have to use ad-hock automatic build system which is not as complete as obs 08:21:52 rinigus: I wonder if some failures on aarch64 are falsely attributed to the OBS bug. 08:22:26 example: https://build.sailfishos.org/public/build/home:nephros:devel:qt6:flipperzero/chum_4.6_aarch64/aarch64/qflipper/_log 08:22:47 /usr/lib64/qt6/mkspecs/features/toolchain.prf:76: Variable QMAKE_CXX.COMPILER_MACROS is not defined 08:23:33 let's move on to the generic discussion, can still continue these if necessary. 08:23:41 #topic General discussion (10 mins) 08:23:47 its failures of build system in general (sb2). we don't have builds failing on aarch64 when compiling natively 08:23:52 nephros: ^ 08:24:06 or using qemu directly for the full build 08:24:09 on my pc 08:24:34 pvuorela: hopefully someone can look into it. although, its probably pain to debug 08:24:41 Any comments on the elephant in the room? 08:25:11 ? 08:26:17 rinigus: indeed. any problems there will bite us too sooner or later. 08:27:23 unless we move to aarch64 native builds. then we can just drop sb2 08:28:15 although, I know its maybe unrealistic at this stage in general 08:28:19 but possible for OBS 08:33:46 nephros: that CXX compiler not devined should be fixed by my build of qtbase in hom:piggz:qtapps, pls try that, but all the other permission errors with qmlcachegen still remain 08:34:13 10 minutes passed 08:34:33 #topic Next meeting time and date (1 min) 08:34:51 piggz[m]: cool, thx 08:34:52 Proposing Thursday 14th November October at 08:00am UTC. This time moved forward 1 hour because of DST change. 08:36:00 no objections, that it is 08:36:11 Looks good :) 08:36:18 #info Next meeting will be held on Thursday 14th November 2024 at 08:00am UTC: 2024-11-14T0800Z 08:36:25 #endmeeting