08:00:04 <rainemak> #startmeeting Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 27th March 2025
08:00:04 <sailbot> Meeting started Thu Mar 27 08:00:04 2025 UTC. The chair is rainemak. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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08:00:04 <rainemak> #info Meeting information and agenda can be found here:
08:00:04 <rainemak> #link https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-27th-march-2025/22640
08:00:04 <rainemak> I am the meeting's chairperson today, and will be doing my best to keep time and order. Please respect the timings and bee-hive.
08:00:04 <rainemak> #topic Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with #info
08:00:24 <rainemak> #info Raine Mäkeläinen, Jolla
08:00:46 <direc85[m]> #info Matti Viljanen, Jolla
08:01:01 <pvuorela> #info Pekka Vuorela, Jolla
08:01:44 <ViGe> #info Ville Nummela, community
08:01:46 <flypig> #info David Llewellyn-Jones, community
08:02:31 <rainemak> nice to see you ViGe
08:02:35 <ExTechOp> Good morning, everyone!
08:02:41 <ExTechOp> #info Otto Mäkelä, community
08:02:43 <rainemak> welcome ExTechOp
08:03:32 <Saltpie[m]> #info tfinn, community
08:03:44 <dcaliste> #info Damien Caliste, community
08:03:44 <poetaster> #info poetaster, community
08:04:03 <dcaliste> Good morning !
08:04:17 <poetaster> Morning!
08:04:19 <rainemak> Good morning Saltpie[m] dcaliste and poetaster
08:05:17 <rainemak> No topics today. There was one late Sony blobs related question but did not have a
08:05:18 <rainemak> chance to check that in timely manner. Let's cover that on the next meeting.
08:05:34 <rainemak> #topic Open PR discussion (5 mins -- asked by Jolla)
08:06:37 <rainemak> maybe dcaliste, direc85[m] or pvuorela have some?
08:06:48 <abr> #info Andrew Branson, sorry I'm late!
08:06:55 <rainemak> no worry abr
08:07:03 <poetaster> nah, just bumming around :)
08:07:56 <dcaliste> pvuorela reviewed several patch in upstream QMF recently, thanks to him.
08:08:27 <rainemak> dcaliste, what kind of goodies we're expecting to see?
08:09:36 <rainemak> dcaliste, we can discuss that on general topic as well
08:09:43 <rainemak> let's move on
08:09:50 <pvuorela> i don't have anything specific to discuss. the pr discussion has been going nicely in the prs themselves.
08:10:01 <rainemak> #topic General discussion (10 mins)
08:10:22 <dcaliste> Idle mails have been reworked. Hopefully it corrected some restaring issues…
08:10:40 <ExTechOp> Are there are larger news regarding SFOS in general?
08:10:55 <flypig> Thanks for all of your work on QMF.
08:11:03 <flypig> Concerning QMF, I think I hit this recently. Is this a new thing and is there any way to work around it (e.g. editing the database): https://github.com/sailfishos/messagingframework/issues/22
08:11:05 <poetaster> yes, ditto.
08:12:07 <rainemak> ExTechOp, not really. We cover Sailfish parts pretty well in previous fortnight newsletter: https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/sailfish-community-news-20th-march-2025-upgrade-jenga/22546
08:12:09 <rainemak> #link https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/sailfish-community-news-20th-march-2025-upgrade-jenga/22546
08:12:52 <rainemak> We're working on the next update release -- next major release comes later.
08:13:32 <poetaster> I could add that piggz[m] recent spate of updates to 5 on all vollas is a real tour-de-force.
08:14:16 <poetaster> like having a new phone, tour-de-force.
08:15:03 <piggz[m]> :)
08:15:28 <flypig> Really nice to hear that poetaster and great work piggz[m].
08:16:27 <rainemak> flypig, and nice to follow your blog once again @ https://www.flypig.co.uk/newpipe
08:17:34 <flypig> Thanks rainemak :) Trying to keep myself out of trouble.
08:17:53 <piggz[m]> * 5 volla's, 4 pines and and an fxtec :D
08:18:02 <rainemak> :)
08:18:04 <rainemak> nice
08:18:17 <flypig> Wow!
08:18:27 <direc85[m]> That's impressive :)
08:18:27 <poetaster> piggz[m], had me scratching my head. I thought I was the OCD guy :)
08:18:50 <flypig> :D
08:19:16 <piggz[m]> got 2 other new ports to start, but also need to implement my new watch in Amazfish ...the community was kind enough to fund a new wrist device for me!
08:19:40 <poetaster> ah, cool. which one?
08:20:08 <piggz[m]> Amazfit Balance .. im really liking it so far .. but support will come to most 'ZeppOS' devices
08:20:41 <rainemak> Ah, one thing we have daylight saving time 30th March... not really affecting this one. Just saying.
08:20:51 <ExTechOp> I see Pebble smartwatches are also being resurrected, there was a fairly large ecosystem around them - what's the SFOS support look like?
08:21:24 <piggz[m]> also, other community member b100dian (vlad) is looking to contriute
08:21:48 <direc85[m]> Which reminds me, I have my AsteroidOS watch in a drawer and I should try Sharship again https://github.com/AsteroidOS/starship
08:21:50 <piggz[m]> ExTechOp: see abr 's rockpool
08:22:41 <rainemak> 5 extra mins... General topic ending 25 past
08:23:20 <flypig> How do the new pebvbles compare to all of these other smartwatches now?
08:23:55 <piggz[m]> flypig: not sure ... theyre nice, but lack gps, which personally is a must for me
08:24:09 <ExTechOp> From rockpool: "The following features are not yet implemented: Support for Pebble 2 watches. The new models only support  Bluetooth Low Energy, and Pebble's BTLE protocol is not implemented in  Rockpool."
08:24:16 <direc85[m]> Apparently PebbleOS is now open source
08:25:00 <dcaliste> flypig, I don't think there is a workaround for this at the moment.
08:25:03 <piggz[m]> i wonder if anyone will port pebbleos to something like the pinetime
08:25:20 <dcaliste> I think you'll have to remove by hand the "don't send" flag from the DB :/
08:26:20 <ExTechOp> At least this is better than the "default" setting of many mobile mail clients, just keep bashing the mail server with failed requests until your account gets locked :-D
08:26:20 <rainemak> are we ready to schedule the next meeting
08:26:36 <flypig> dcaliste, thanks for checking. I don't mind removing it from the DB manually, but I just wanted to make sure. I must admit it did confuse me why no attempt was being made to send them (according to the logs).
08:26:38 <rainemak> ExTechOp, hah
08:26:51 <flypig> So I'm glad you posted that issue dcaliste!
08:27:23 <flypig> ExTechOp, yes, you make a good point.
08:28:05 <rainemak> #topic Next meeting time and date (2 mins)
08:28:11 <rainemak> roposing Thursday 10th April at 08:00am UTC
08:28:16 <rainemak> Proposing Thursday 10th April at 08:00am UTC
08:28:28 <rainemak> usual biweekly interval
08:28:38 <ExTechOp> Works4me
08:29:36 <direc85[m]> Isn't it summer time soon?
08:29:44 <poetaster> sunday.
08:29:46 <rainemak> 30th March
08:30:08 <poetaster> direc85[m], do you not use the calendar!!! :)
08:31:09 <poetaster> I'm off to build a drum machine ... happy hacking!
08:31:26 <direc85[m]> Shouldn't it be 7am UTC? Or am I mistaken?
08:31:36 <rainemak> yeap, 7am utc
08:31:38 <ExTechOp> Should the meeting then be at a different UT time?
08:31:46 <rainemak> Proposing Thursday 10th April at 07:00am UTC
08:31:59 <rainemak> like the same slot
08:32:00 <ExTechOp> Yep, so 10:00 EET/DST
08:32:22 <rainemak> #info Next meeting will be held on Thursday 10th April 2025 at 07:00am UTC: 2025-04-10T0700Z
08:32:25 <direc85[m]> 10 EST I think
08:32:25 <rainemak> thanks all
08:32:33 <rainemak> #endmeeting