#sailfishos-meeting: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 28th August 2025

Meeting started by rainemak at 16:00:00 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

    1. Meeting information and agenda can be found here: (rainemak, 16:00:00)
    2. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-28th-august-2025/24483 (rainemak, 16:00:00)

  2. Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with #info (rainemak, 16:00:00)
    1. Raine Mäkeläinen, Jolla (rainemak, 16:00:42)
    2. Otto Mäkelä, community (ExTechOp, 16:00:43)
    3. Ville Nummela, community (ViGe_, 16:00:45)
    4. roundedrectangle, community (roundedrectangl, 16:00:53)
    5. piggz, community (piggz[m], 16:01:13)
    6. Andrew Branson, sailing by (abr, 16:01:52)
    7. Matti Viljanen, Jolla (direc85[m], 16:02:14)
    8. Pami Ketolainen, Jolla (Keto, 16:03:02)
    9. CLMA31, community (CLMA31[m], 16:03:34)
    10. mal, Jolla (mal, 16:03:38)

  3. Default Hosts file and DNS (5 mins -- Novacane) (rainemak, 16:05:06)
    1. <Novacane> Is there a specific reason why the Android App support is not set (rainemak, 16:05:06)
    2. <Novacane> up by default to use the Hosts file and DNS which SailfishOS (rainemak, 16:05:06)
    3. <Novacane> uses? Also, how difficult would it be to add an option somewhere (rainemak, 16:05:06)
    4. <Novacane> in the Settings app to enter/change the entire system’s DNS (rainemak, 16:05:06)
    5. <Novacane> settings? Related: How to change DNS settings? (rainemak, 16:05:07)
    6. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/how-to-change-dns-settings/10068/11 (rainemak, 16:05:09)
    7. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/how-to-change-dns-on-mobile-network/13286/13 (rainemak, 16:05:11)
    8. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/using-host-etc-hosts-in-aliendalvik-androidappsupport-ad-aas-via-bind-mount-on-sfos-4-5/14653/11 (rainemak, 16:05:15)
    9. <Jolla> Thanks for asking. Let's clarify open questions further but let (rainemak, 16:05:19)
    10. <Jolla> this be a starting point. Adding an option to Settings app should (rainemak, 16:05:20)
    11. <Jolla> not be a big effort but that's more like a resourcing and (rainemak, 16:05:22)
    12. <Jolla> prioritization question. For the next release there will be an (rainemak, 16:05:24)
    13. <Jolla> AppSupport config file that can be used for changing DNS settings. (rainemak, 16:05:26)

  4. Python update (5mins -- roundedrectangle) (rainemak, 16:12:42)
    1. <roundedrectangle> Python 3.8 is now end of life and no longer receives (rainemak, 16:12:42)
    2. <roundedrectangle> security updates. Security updates are not that (rainemak, 16:12:42)
    3. <roundedrectangle> important, but many projects have dropped support for it (rainemak, 16:12:42)
    4. <roundedrectangle> and now require a newer version. Because of this, some of (rainemak, 16:12:43)
    5. <roundedrectangle> my Python-based apps cannot update to newer libraries and (rainemak, 16:12:46)
    6. <roundedrectangle> have to stick with older versions. I have seen a branch (rainemak, 16:12:48)
    7. <roundedrectangle> with 3.11 update, but there is no pull request. So, when (rainemak, 16:12:50)
    8. <roundedrectangle> is the Python update planned? (rainemak, 16:12:52)
    9. https://github.com/sailfishos/python3/tree/python311 (rainemak, 16:12:54)
    10. <Jolla> Like you noticed, we're a work in progress branch for Python 3.11. (rainemak, 16:13:08)
    11. <Jolla> With the newer Python we do have still some odd cross-build issues. (rainemak, 16:13:08)
    12. <Jolla> The Python build itself randomly fails. This looks very much similar (rainemak, 16:13:08)
    13. <Jolla> to xulrunner build randomly failing. (rainemak, 16:13:08)
    14. <Jolla> (rainemak, 16:13:08)
    15. <Jolla> Python 3.11 will be good for a while as that receives security fixes (rainemak, 16:13:10)
    16. <Jolla> until October 2027. (rainemak, 16:13:12)
    17. <Jolla> (rainemak, 16:13:16)
    18. <Jolla> We're targeting Python update for the next major update. (rainemak, 16:13:18)

  5. Sony Xperia 10 IV/V adaption in light of Sony no longer selling smartphones in Finland (5mins -- rgrnetalk) (rainemak, 16:21:13)
    1. <rgrnetalk> While Sony hasn’t officially announced an exit from Europe, it (rainemak, 16:21:13)
    2. <rgrnetalk> has confirmed to Finnish outlet SuomiMobiili that Xperia phones (rainemak, 16:21:13)
    3. <rgrnetalk> will no longer be sold directly in Finland. This could be (rainemak, 16:21:14)
    4. <rgrnetalk> explained as an early sign of a wind-down of Sony’s smartphone (rainemak, 16:21:15)
    5. <rgrnetalk> business. For owners of the Sony Xperia 10 IV/V this means (rainemak, 16:21:17)
    6. <rgrnetalk> (more) uncertainty. Does Jolla has more information on the Sony (rainemak, 16:21:19)
    7. <rgrnetalk> business and can it be shared with the community? Is the (rainemak, 16:21:21)
    8. <rgrnetalk> adaption for the Sony Xperia 10 IV/V influenced by this new (rainemak, 16:21:23)
    9. <rgrnetalk> situation? I’m aware of the anouncement of a dedicated post for (rainemak, 16:21:25)
    10. <rgrnetalk> the situation of the Xperia 10 IV/V. If no information can be (rainemak, 16:21:27)
    11. <rgrnetalk> shared in this meeting, can you ascertain that it will be added (rainemak, 16:21:29)
    12. <rgrnetalk> to the dedicated post? (rainemak, 16:21:31)
    13. <Jolla> We will cover your concerns in the dedicated post of the Sony Xperia (rainemak, 16:21:34)
    14. <Jolla> 10 IV and 10 V. (rainemak, 16:21:35)

  6. Open Pull Requests (PRs) to discussion (5 mins -- asked by Jolla) (rainemak, 16:25:07)
  7. General discussion (10 mins) (rainemak, 16:30:10)
    1. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/next-gen-jolla-phone/23882 (rainemak, 16:31:39)

  8. Next meeting time and date (5 mins) (rainemak, 16:43:09)
    1. Next meeting will be held on Thursday 11th September 2025 at 04:00pm UTC: 2025-09-11T1600Z (rainemak, 16:50:56)


Meeting ended at 16:52:40 UTC (full logs).

Action items

  1. (none)


People present (lines said)

  1. rainemak (102)
  2. mal (12)
  3. CLMA31[m] (11)
  4. abr (7)
  5. roundedrectangl (6)
  6. ExTechOp (6)
  7. direc85[m] (6)
  8. sailbot (2)
  9. ViGe_ (2)
  10. piggz[m] (2)
  11. Keto (2)


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