================================================================================ #sailfishos-meeting: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 28th August 2025 ================================================================================ Meeting started by rainemak at 16:00:00 UTC. The full logs are available at https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2025/sailfishos-meeting.2025-08-28-16.00.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * Meeting information and agenda can be found here: (rainemak, 16:00:00) * LINK: https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-28th-august-2025/24483 (rainemak, 16:00:00) * Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with #info (rainemak, 16:00:00) * Raine Mäkeläinen, Jolla (rainemak, 16:00:42) * Otto Mäkelä, community (ExTechOp, 16:00:43) * Ville Nummela, community (ViGe_, 16:00:45) * roundedrectangle, community (roundedrectangl, 16:00:53) * piggz, community (piggz[m], 16:01:13) * Andrew Branson, sailing by (abr, 16:01:52) * Matti Viljanen, Jolla (direc85[m], 16:02:14) * Pami Ketolainen, Jolla (Keto, 16:03:02) * CLMA31, community (CLMA31[m], 16:03:34) * mal, Jolla (mal, 16:03:38) * Default Hosts file and DNS (5 mins -- Novacane) (rainemak, 16:05:06) * Is there a specific reason why the Android App support is not set (rainemak, 16:05:06) * up by default to use the Hosts file and DNS which SailfishOS (rainemak, 16:05:06) * uses? Also, how difficult would it be to add an option somewhere (rainemak, 16:05:06) * in the Settings app to enter/change the entire system’s DNS (rainemak, 16:05:06) * settings? Related: How to change DNS settings? (rainemak, 16:05:07) * LINK: https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/how-to-change-dns-settings/10068/11 (rainemak, 16:05:09) * LINK: https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/how-to-change-dns-on-mobile-network/13286/13 (rainemak, 16:05:11) * LINK: https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/using-host-etc-hosts-in-aliendalvik-androidappsupport-ad-aas-via-bind-mount-on-sfos-4-5/14653/11 (rainemak, 16:05:15) * Thanks for asking. Let's clarify open questions further but let (rainemak, 16:05:19) * this be a starting point. Adding an option to Settings app should (rainemak, 16:05:20) * not be a big effort but that's more like a resourcing and (rainemak, 16:05:22) * prioritization question. For the next release there will be an (rainemak, 16:05:24) * AppSupport config file that can be used for changing DNS settings. (rainemak, 16:05:26) * Python update (5mins -- roundedrectangle) (rainemak, 16:12:42) * Python 3.8 is now end of life and no longer receives (rainemak, 16:12:42) * security updates. Security updates are not that (rainemak, 16:12:42) * important, but many projects have dropped support for it (rainemak, 16:12:42) * and now require a newer version. Because of this, some of (rainemak, 16:12:43) * my Python-based apps cannot update to newer libraries and (rainemak, 16:12:46) * have to stick with older versions. I have seen a branch (rainemak, 16:12:48) * with 3.11 update, but there is no pull request. So, when (rainemak, 16:12:50) * is the Python update planned? (rainemak, 16:12:52) * LINK: https://github.com/sailfishos/python3/tree/python311 (rainemak, 16:12:54) * Like you noticed, we're a work in progress branch for Python 3.11. (rainemak, 16:13:08) * With the newer Python we do have still some odd cross-build issues. (rainemak, 16:13:08) * The Python build itself randomly fails. This looks very much similar (rainemak, 16:13:08) * to xulrunner build randomly failing. (rainemak, 16:13:08) * (rainemak, 16:13:08) * Python 3.11 will be good for a while as that receives security fixes (rainemak, 16:13:10) * until October 2027. (rainemak, 16:13:12) * (rainemak, 16:13:16) * We're targeting Python update for the next major update. (rainemak, 16:13:18) * Sony Xperia 10 IV/V adaption in light of Sony no longer selling smartphones in Finland (5mins -- rgrnetalk) (rainemak, 16:21:13) * While Sony hasn’t officially announced an exit from Europe, it (rainemak, 16:21:13) * has confirmed to Finnish outlet SuomiMobiili that Xperia phones (rainemak, 16:21:13) * will no longer be sold directly in Finland. This could be (rainemak, 16:21:14) * explained as an early sign of a wind-down of Sony’s smartphone (rainemak, 16:21:15) * business. For owners of the Sony Xperia 10 IV/V this means (rainemak, 16:21:17) * (more) uncertainty. Does Jolla has more information on the Sony (rainemak, 16:21:19) * business and can it be shared with the community? Is the (rainemak, 16:21:21) * adaption for the Sony Xperia 10 IV/V influenced by this new (rainemak, 16:21:23) * situation? I’m aware of the anouncement of a dedicated post for (rainemak, 16:21:25) * the situation of the Xperia 10 IV/V. If no information can be (rainemak, 16:21:27) * shared in this meeting, can you ascertain that it will be added (rainemak, 16:21:29) * to the dedicated post? (rainemak, 16:21:31) * We will cover your concerns in the dedicated post of the Sony Xperia (rainemak, 16:21:34) * 10 IV and 10 V. (rainemak, 16:21:35) * Open Pull Requests (PRs) to discussion (5 mins -- asked by Jolla) (rainemak, 16:25:07) * General discussion (10 mins) (rainemak, 16:30:10) * LINK: https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/next-gen-jolla-phone/23882 (rainemak, 16:31:39) * Next meeting time and date (5 mins) (rainemak, 16:43:09) * Next meeting will be held on Thursday 11th September 2025 at 04:00pm UTC: 2025-09-11T1600Z (rainemak, 16:50:56) Meeting ended at 16:52:40 UTC. 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