#sailfishos-meeting: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 25th September 2025

Meeting started by rainemak at 16:00:03 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

    1. Meeting information and agenda can be found here: (rainemak, 16:00:04)
    2. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-25th-september-2025/24781 (rainemak, 16:00:04)

  2. Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with #info (rainemak, 16:00:04)
    1. Otto Mäkelä, community (ExTechOp, 16:00:32)
    2. Matti Viljanen, Jolla (direc85[m], 16:01:00)
    3. Raine Mäkeläinen, Jolla (rainemak, 16:01:15)
    4. FireFly - Community (FireFly, 16:02:12)

  3. The future for Xperia 10 series devices beyond the IV and V (5 mins -- PeegeeTips) (rainemak, 16:05:00)
    1. <PeegeeTips> Is the J3 a new direction for Jolla; moving to selling (rainemak, 16:05:12)
    2. <PeegeeTips> factory-flashed and bootloader locked devices? (rainemak, 16:05:12)
    3. <PeegeeTips> It has been suggested by Xiaomi that they’re ending their (rainemak, 16:05:12)
    4. <PeegeeTips> bootloader unlocking function to maintain compliance with EU (rainemak, 16:05:12)
    5. <PeegeeTips> regs in the digital safety act. Does Jolla consider this a (rainemak, 16:05:12)
    6. <PeegeeTips> threat to their existing business model, such that they are (rainemak, 16:05:14)
    7. <PeegeeTips> moving away from selling device licences to pre-flashed (rainemak, 16:05:17)
    8. <PeegeeTips> devices? I ask as Sony continues to release new versions of the (rainemak, 16:05:19)
    9. <PeegeeTips> 10 series, and they remain well built and and affordable (rainemak, 16:05:21)
    10. <PeegeeTips> mid-range handsets: (rainemak, 16:05:23)
    11. https://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_10_vii-review-2879.php (rainemak, 16:05:25)
    12. <Jolla> Good question but difficult to give you a good answer. We have not (rainemak, 16:05:27)
    13. <Jolla> said that we are moving away from downloadable & flashable (rainemak, 16:05:29)
    14. <Jolla> Sailfish OS images. At this point, we do not have an update (rainemak, 16:05:31)
    15. <Jolla> regarding the next downloadable & flashable Sailfish OS image. (rainemak, 16:05:33)

  4. Speed up a Device (5mins -- Cryx) (rainemak, 16:12:16)
    1. Plausible substitute Seven.of.nine (rainemak, 16:12:16)
    2. <Cryx> There is that thread in the forum for some time now, and I wonder if (rainemak, 16:12:26)
    3. <Cryx> anyone from Jolla ever looked a this. I also feel the handling of (rainemak, 16:12:26)
    4. <Cryx> SFOS is sometimes slow and would like to see some things happening (rainemak, 16:12:26)
    5. <Cryx> faster. And as these things seem to be tied into the system and force (rainemak, 16:12:26)
    6. <Cryx> a device to (re-) act slow I ask myself why… (rainemak, 16:12:26)
    7. <Cryx> (rainemak, 16:12:28)
    8. <Cryx> I will sadly be on work travel that day so I don’t know if could make (rainemak, 16:12:29)
    9. <Cryx> it into the meeting (nevertheless I will try) , but I missed to point (rainemak, 16:12:31)
    10. <Cryx> to this topic already three or four times. On the other hand (rainemak, 16:12:33)
    11. <Cryx> everything relevant is already said in the linked thread, so the main (rainemak, 16:12:35)
    12. <Cryx> questions are: (rainemak, 16:12:37)
    13. <Cryx> (rainemak, 16:12:39)
    14. <Cryx> - Is Jolla aware of this topic? (rainemak, 16:12:41)
    15. <Cryx> - Is there anything that stands against bringing such speed up tweaks (rainemak, 16:12:43)
    16. <Cryx> into the system with a SFOS update for all users? (rainemak, 16:12:47)
    17. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/speed-up-a-device-by-system-tweaks-in-the-qml-files/19769 (rainemak, 16:12:49)
    18. <Jolla> Yes, we aware of this topic and we understand reasoning that you have. (rainemak, 16:14:02)
    19. <Jolla> Practical thing that stands in between of implementing this is (rainemak, 16:14:32)
    20. <Jolla> resourcing and time. When done properly, we'd review (evaluate) and (rainemak, 16:14:32)
    21. <Jolla> verify each change on each officially supported devices. Usually (rainemak, 16:14:32)
    22. <Jolla> during review there would be discussion whether this or that look (rainemak, 16:14:32)
    23. <Jolla> better. Then we'd repeat after plausible adjustments. The whole (rainemak, 16:14:32)
    24. <Jolla> process takes much more time than sed'ing changes to the device. (rainemak, 16:14:34)
    25. <Jolla> Implementing this so that we'd have device spefic variants is no go. (rainemak, 16:14:35)

  5. Cell Broadcast alerts (5 mins -- asked by CLMA31) (rainemak, 16:20:43)
    1. <CLMA31> There has been multiple reports that cell broadcast alerts aren’t (rainemak, 16:20:43)
    2. <CLMA31> working: Cell Broadcast alerts (Germany) - #165 by davidrasch. Is (rainemak, 16:20:43)
    3. <CLMA31> this known problem and if so is there any idea how to mitigate this (rainemak, 16:20:43)
    4. <CLMA31> problem? (rainemak, 16:20:43)
    5. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/cell-broadcast-alerts-germany/13528/165 (rainemak, 16:20:44)
    6. https://docs.sailfishos.org/Support/community.ics (abr, 16:24:47)

  6. Android apps mobile data connection problems (10 mins -- asked by CLMA31) (rainemak, 16:25:52)
    1. <CLMA31> It seems that there has been a lot of discussion in history related (rainemak, 16:25:52)
    2. <CLMA31> to the data connection problems inside the AAS. Has Jolla been able (rainemak, 16:25:52)
    3. <CLMA31> to identify main reason for the problem and is there what kind of (rainemak, 16:25:52)
    4. <CLMA31> development plan related to that? Will 5.1 update bring (rainemak, 16:25:52)
    5. <CLMA31>improvements to the situation? If I have understood correctly (rainemak, 16:25:54)
    6. <CLMA31> sometimes the problems occur if you switch between WLAN and mobile (rainemak, 16:25:55)
    7. <CLMA31> data and sometime the problem occurs randomly. As many people (rainemak, 16:25:57)
    8. <CLMA31> still rely to some Android apps and new comers even more, reliable (rainemak, 16:25:59)
    9. <CLMA31> internet connection is quite crucial. Here are some topics from (rainemak, 16:26:01)
    10. <CLMA31> the forum I found: (rainemak, 16:26:03)
    11. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/4-6-0-13-xperia-10-iii-android-apps-mobile-data-connectivity-worse-then-ever/19311/34 (rainemak, 16:26:05)
    12. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/no-mobile-internet-with-android-apps-on-c2/20586/75 (rainemak, 16:26:08)
    13. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/release-notes-tampella-5-0-0-68/23427/22 (rainemak, 16:26:10)
    14. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/release-notes-tampella-5-0-0-70-jolla-c2-only/24477/19 (rainemak, 16:26:12)
    15. <Jolla> Thank you for bring this up. Tracked already on several fronts. (rainemak, 16:26:24)
    16. <Jolla> There seems to be something operator specific involved but we have (rainemak, 16:26:24)
    17. <Jolla> not yet figured what triggers / causes it. (rainemak, 16:26:24)
    18. <Jolla> That said, we have a different kind of implementation approach in (rainemak, 16:26:24)
    19. <Jolla> internal testing which is similar to the approch that we had years (rainemak, 16:26:26)
    20. <Jolla> ago (maybe it was around XA2, Xperia 10, Xperia 10 II). A lot of (rainemak, 16:26:28)
    21. <Jolla> things have changed since. (rainemak, 16:26:30)

  7. Open Pull Requests (PRs) to discussion (2 mins -- asked by Jolla) (rainemak, 16:40:37)
    1. <CLMA31> @hildon has asked clarification on GPS development on C2. My guess (rainemak, 16:45:22)
    2. <CLMA31> is that this is regarding A-GPS implementation which has been (rainemak, 16:45:22)
    3. <CLMA31> talked by @Rainemak in Open source discussion. I guess the main (rainemak, 16:45:22)
    4. <CLMA31> interest is to ask if the A-GPS will be implemented already in (rainemak, 16:45:22)
    5. <CLMA31> next release? (rainemak, 16:45:24)
    6. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/sailfish-community-news-18th-september-2025-issue-reporting/24830/11 (rainemak, 16:45:40)
    7. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/open-sourcing-proceeding/24689/39 (rainemak, 16:45:40)
    8. If you do not mind, I'll extend the meeting by 10mins (rainemak, 16:46:58)

  8. Timeline of GPS development (5mins -- asked by CLMA31) (rainemak, 16:51:20)
    1. <CLMA31> @hildon has asked clarification on GPS development on C2. My guess (rainemak, 16:51:20)
    2. <CLMA31> is that this is regarding A-GPS implementation which has been (rainemak, 16:51:20)
    3. <CLMA31> talked by @Rainemak in Open source discussion. I guess the main (rainemak, 16:51:20)
    4. <CLMA31> interest is to ask if the A-GPS will be implemented already in (rainemak, 16:51:20)
    5. <CLMA31> next release? (rainemak, 16:51:22)
    6. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/sailfish-community-news-18th-september-2025-issue-reporting/24830/11 (rainemak, 16:51:25)
    7. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/open-sourcing-proceeding/24689/39 (rainemak, 16:51:28)
    8. If you do not mind, I'll extend the meeting by 10mins (rainemak, 16:51:50)

  9. General discussion (10 mins) (rainemak, 17:00:53)
    1. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/android-software-unexpected-backgrounding/23149/1 (ExTechOp, 17:03:39)

  10. Next meeting time and date (1 mins) (rainemak, 17:15:27)
    1. Next meeting will be held on Thursday 9th October 2025 at 04:00pm UTC: 2025-10-09T1600Z (rainemak, 17:15:55)


Meeting ended at 17:22:47 UTC (full logs).

Action items

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People present (lines said)

  1. rainemak (250)
  2. abr (19)
  3. mal (19)
  4. ExTechOp (16)
  5. yusssufff (10)
  6. direc85[m] (7)
  7. piggz[m] (7)
  8. Cryx[m] (5)
  9. FireFly (4)
  10. sailbot (2)
  11. Venty[m] (1)
  12. Keto (1)


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