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#sailfishos-meeting: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 4th December 2025
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Meeting started by rainemak at 16:02:13 UTC. The full logs are available
at
https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2025/sailfishos-meeting.2025-12-04-16.02.log.html
.



Meeting summary
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* Meeting information and agenda can be found here:  (rainemak,
  16:02:13)
* LINK: https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/25669   (rainemak, 16:02:14)
* Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with #info
  (rainemak, 16:02:14)
  * Raine Mäkeläinen, Jolla  (rainemak, 16:02:26)
  * Heng Ye, community  (heng, 16:02:32)
  * Otto Mäkelä, community  (ExTechOp, 16:02:40)
  * Matti Viljanen, Jolla  (direc85[m], 16:03:24)

* Certain phones with Sailfish will be blocked by some network operators
  in Sweden (10 mins -- SRU)  (rainemak, 16:07:34)
  * <SRU> See My Xperia 10 II Dual SIM will be blocked by Tele2 in
    Sweden. #info <SRU> What are Jolla’s plans about this?  (rainemak,
    16:07:34)
  * LINK:
    https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/my-xperia-10-ii-dual-sim-will-be-blocked-by-tele2-in-sweden/25757
    (rainemak, 16:07:34)
  * <Jolla> Thank you SRU for raising this important topic. It would be
    much  (rainemak, 16:07:47)
  * <Jolla> appreciated & valuable if we could look this together with
    the  (rainemak, 16:07:47)
  * <Jolla> Swedish Sailfish community to narrow down the issue.
    (rainemak, 16:07:47)
  * <Jolla>  (rainemak, 16:07:47)
  * <Jolla> First few questions that we should try to clarify / figure
    out.  (rainemak, 16:07:47)
  * <Jolla> - Have Jolla C2 users receive such messages?  (rainemak,
    16:07:49)
  * <Jolla> - How about Xperia 10 III users?  (rainemak, 16:07:50)
  * <Jolla> - Messages from other operators than Tele2?  (rainemak,
    16:07:52)
  * <Jolla> - Is the device using the latest software?  (rainemak,
    16:07:54)
  * <Jolla> - Have Android users of the 10 II (if there are even any
    left)  (rainemak, 16:07:56)
  * <Jolla> received the same message? (by attah?)  (rainemak, 16:07:58)
  * <Jolla>  (rainemak, 16:08:00)
  * <Jolla> Surely, old Volte Beta should be used.  (rainemak, 16:08:04)
  * <Jolla>  (rainemak, 16:08:06)
  * <Jolla> Last time we executed HäKe (Hätäkeskus - Finnish emergency
    center)  (rainemak, 16:08:08)
  * <Jolla> tests with Jolla C2.  (rainemak, 16:08:10)
  * <Jolla>  (rainemak, 16:08:12)
  * <Jolla> Is blocking based on the IMEI? Do we know about that?
    (rainemak, 16:08:14)
  * <Jolla>  (rainemak, 16:08:16)
  * <Jolla> It could well be that Tele2 is blocking based on IMEI. This
    could  (rainemak, 16:08:18)
  * <Jolla> for example mean that dear Tele2 decided that Sony Xperia 10
    II is  (rainemak, 16:08:20)
  * <Jolla> too old.  (rainemak, 16:08:22)
  * <Jolla>  (rainemak, 16:08:24)
  * <Jolla> Let's continue with an open discussion.  (rainemak,
    16:08:26)
  * pherjung, community  (pherjung[m], 16:08:57)
  * LINK:
    https://www.sweclockers.com/forum/trad/1749556-nodsamtal-via-4g
    (pherjung[m], 16:13:12)
  * LINK:
    https://www.nyteknik.se/tech/problem-med-nodsamtal-mobiler-kan-sparras-alternativet-ar-varre/4414298
    (pherjung[m], 16:13:52)
  * LINK:
    https://www.mobileeurope.co.uk/sweden-tells-mnos-to-block-older-handsets-from-emergency-calls/
    I found this article, but I don't find any sources for it.
    (direc85[m], 16:16:03)
  * LINK: https://nickvsnetworking.com/background-to-the-volte-mess/
    This is the blog post that it links to.  (direc85[m], 16:16:18)
  * piggz - community - very late :D  (piggz[m], 16:20:55)
  * LINK:
    https://www.pts.se/en/news-and-press-releases/operators-must-ensure-access-to-112--certain-mobile-phones-will-be-blocked/
    This looks like a more reliable source.  (direc85[m], 16:20:59)

* Open Pull Requests (PRs) to discussion (5 mins -- asked by Jolla)
  (rainemak, 16:28:26)

* General discussion (10 mins or something)  (rainemak, 16:32:48)

* Next meeting time and date (2 mins)  (rainemak, 16:51:52)
  * Next meeting will be held on Thursday 18th December 2025 at 04:00pm
    UTC: 2025-12-18T1600Z  (rainemak, 16:53:28)

Meeting ended at 16:53:40 UTC.




Action Items
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Action Items, by person
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* **UNASSIGNED**
  * (none)




People Present (lines said)
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* rainemak (77)
* attah (10)
* pherjung (9)
* pherjung[m] (8)
* piggz[m] (8)
* ExTechOp (6)
* tomas_ (6)
* mal (6)
* direc85[m] (5)
* sailbot (2)
* heng (2)




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