#sailfishos-meeting: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 26th February 2026
Meeting started by rainemak at 16:00:00 UTC
(full logs).
Meeting summary
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- Meeting information and agenda can be found
here: (rainemak,
16:00:00)
- https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/27745
(rainemak,
16:00:00)
- Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with #info (rainemak, 16:00:00)
- Raine Mäkeläinen, Jolla (rainemak,
16:00:32)
- Andrew Branson, Jolla (abr,
16:00:43)
- Ville Nummela, community (ViGe,
16:00:56)
- Matti Viljanen, Jolla (direc85[m],
16:01:05)
- Pami Ketolainen, Jolla (Keto,
16:01:31)
- tuplasuhveli, community (doing dishes, so may
not be able to participate) (tuplasuhveli[m],
16:01:33)
- Filip, community (filip_k,
16:02:12)
- Otto Mäkelä, community (ExTechOp,
16:02:17)
- Unavailable Harbour applications (10 mins -- nephros) (rainemak, 16:05:01)
- <nephros> The Jolla Store/Harbour suffers
some scarcity of apps. (rainemak,
16:05:02)
- <nephros> (rainemak,
16:05:02)
- <nephros> One of the issues is older apps
which are not available to (rainemak,
16:05:02)
- <nephros> newer releases because of
compatability issues or not having (rainemak,
16:05:02)
- <nephros> an aarch64 build
available. (rainemak,
16:05:02)
- <nephros> (rainemak,
16:05:04)
- <nephros> Could Jolla provide a digest of
apps in Harbour which: (rainemak,
16:05:06)
- <nephros> (rainemak,
16:05:08)
- <nephros> * do not have an aarch64
version ( or more generally do not (rainemak,
16:05:10)
- <nephros> support all three official
architectures) (rainemak,
16:05:12)
- <nephros> (rainemak,
16:05:14)
- <nephros> * have SFOS Version
compatibility detected so they do NOT (rainemak,
16:05:16)
- <nephros> support SFOS 5+ (rainemak,
16:05:18)
- <nephros> (rainemak,
16:05:20)
- <nephros> * if possible, contact
information or web link to the author (rainemak,
16:05:24)
- <nephros> (of course, GPDR-compliant,
so no names or email addresses (rainemak,
16:05:26)
- <nephros> etc), but maybe have a source
link, or appear like they (rainemak,
16:05:28)
- <nephros> would be open source.
(rainemak,
16:05:30)
- <nephros> (rainemak,
16:05:32)
- <nephros> Note I’m not asking that this
become a feature of Harbour, (rainemak,
16:05:34)
- <nephros> just a one-time (or maybe in
the future yearly or so) report. (rainemak,
16:05:36)
- <nephros> (rainemak,
16:05:38)
- <nephros> If Jolla can or will not
provide such a report, is there a way (rainemak,
16:05:40)
- <nephros> for someone to generate it
themselves, e.g. by analyzing the (rainemak,
16:05:42)
- <nephros> repodata xml files from the
store repos? (rainemak,
16:05:44)
- <nephros> (rainemak,
16:05:46)
- <nephros> The goal would be so active
community devs could pick up (rainemak,
16:05:48)
- <nephros> development for some of those
apps if feasible. (rainemak,
16:05:50)
- <nephros> (rainemak,
16:05:54)
- <nephros> Similar to the efforts that
have happened in e.g. Apps that (rainemak,
16:05:56)
- <nephros> haven't been ported to aarch64
and Apps that haven't been (rainemak,
16:05:58)
- <nephros> ported to aarch64
(Store) (rainemak,
16:06:00)
- https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/apps-that-havent-been-ported-to-aarch64/8497
(rainemak,
16:06:02)
- https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/apps-that-havent-been-ported-to-aarch64-store/7331
(rainemak,
16:06:04)
- <Jolla> Let’s try to ease this problem
somehow for us all. (rainemak,
16:06:06)
- <Jolla> (rainemak,
16:06:08)
- <Jolla> * A list of apps not having
aarch64 version can be generated (rainemak,
16:06:10)
- <Jolla> (rainemak,
16:06:12)
- <Jolla> * Identifying latest compatible
SFOS version is difficult in (rainemak,
16:06:14)
- <Jolla> some cases, as the rpm
dependencies alone don’t always cover (rainemak,
16:06:16)
- <Jolla> this. But random-pick tests
have shown that even apps not (rainemak,
16:06:18)
- <Jolla> updated in the past decade are
often compatible (rainemak,
16:06:20)
- <Jolla> (rainemak,
16:06:24)
- <Jolla> * Providing contact information
is not possible due to GDPR. (rainemak,
16:06:26)
- <Jolla> Some apps do have link to
sources or web page is their public #info <Jolla>
metadata (rainemak,
16:06:28)
- <Jolla> (rainemak,
16:06:31)
- <Jolla> Having a list of apps that do not
have aarch64 support is (rainemak,
16:06:33)
- <Jolla> already a good starting
point. (rainemak,
16:06:35)
- Process for taking over maintenance of apps in Harbour (5 mins -- asked by nephros) (rainemak, 16:19:27)
- <nephros> As a follow-up to the question
above, what is the preferred (rainemak,
16:19:27)
- <nephros> way of taking over an app
published in Harbour? (rainemak,
16:19:27)
- <nephros> (rainemak,
16:19:27)
- <nephros> What are prerequisites, and how
does one contact Jolla to (rainemak,
16:19:28)
- <nephros> attempt it? (rainemak,
16:19:29)
- <Jolla> The original owner of the app
needs to contact Jolla and request (rainemak,
16:19:34)
- <Jolla> ownership transfer. The request
can be made in Harbour by (rainemak,
16:19:34)
- <Jolla> submitting app update with a
message to QA. (rainemak,
16:19:35)
- What comes first out of beta: Xperia 10 IV & V or J2 (5 mins -- asked by Filip) (rainemak, 16:27:24)
- <Filip> Many of us bought those Sony
phones in good faith on you. (rainemak,
16:27:25)
- <Filip> Unfortunately they are not “daily
drivable” for many. Personally (rainemak,
16:27:25)
- <Filip> missing camera is a showstopper
for me. Now I wonder if I should (rainemak,
16:27:25)
- <Filip> buy J2 since only a few hundreds
(YAY) are available for preorder (rainemak,
16:27:25)
- <Filip> or wait for nonbeta Sony
images. (rainemak,
16:27:26)
- <Jolla> Let’s have an open discussion on
this one. There ain’t really a (rainemak,
16:27:35)
- <Jolla> question for us, this is more
like a comment. (rainemak,
16:27:35)
- Clarification of technical specs of J2 (and maybe even confirmation what should we call it) to one place (5 mins -- asked by CLMA31) (rainemak, 16:49:29)
- <CLMA31> I think most of the phone specs
are now official, SoC, (rainemak,
16:49:29)
- <CLMA31> supported bands, camera modules
etc. Problem is that those are (rainemak,
16:49:29)
- <CLMA31> a little bit scattered and would
be amazing if they were added (rainemak,
16:49:29)
- <CLMA31> to the product page of J2. When
trying to give these (rainemak,
16:49:29)
- <CLMA31> information to people online, it
can be quite tricky to find (rainemak,
16:49:31)
- <CLMA31> them even myself. (rainemak,
16:49:33)
- <Jolla> We’ll update the product page of
Jolla Phone, more specifically (rainemak,
16:49:43)
- <Jolla> tech specs section. (rainemak,
16:49:43)
- https://commerce.jolla.com/products/jolla-phone-preorder#techspecs.
(rainemak,
16:49:44)
- SailMaa, community (SailMaa[m],
16:54:52)
- CLMA31, community (CLMA31[m],
16:55:24)
- “FAQ” topics in the “Getting Started” category (15 mins -- asked by CLMA31) (rainemak, 16:56:59)
- <CLMA31> There has been great community
effort to create FAQ section for (rainemak,
16:56:59)
- <CLMA31> Getting started category. @attah
raised the following comment: (rainemak,
16:56:59)
- <CLMA31> ”So how do we proceed? Would
Jolla be ok to promote this to (rainemak,
16:56:59)
- <CLMA31> official status for the forum?
Shameless ping @rainemak. (rainemak,
16:56:59)
- <CLMA31> (rainemak,
16:57:00)
- <CLMA31> The FAQ is looking quite nice at
this point. Could do with a (rainemak,
16:57:02)
- <CLMA31> once-over for grammar and tone
perhaps - along with addressing (rainemak,
16:57:04)
- <CLMA31> any objections or requests from
Jolla.” (rainemak,
16:57:06)
- <CLMA31> (rainemak,
16:57:08)
- <CLMA31> I think it would be great to
hear Jolla’s feeling about this (rainemak,
16:57:10)
- <CLMA31> kind of community development
and if there is some kind of (rainemak,
16:57:12)
- <CLMA31> objections or request from
Jolla’s side. Or other things to (rainemak,
16:57:14)
- <CLMA31> note. Personally I think it is
great way to help newcomers. (rainemak,
16:57:16)
- https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/faq-topics-in-the-getting-started-category/26055
(rainemak,
16:57:18)
- <Jolla> Indeed, the FAQ starts looking
really nice. There are some (rainemak,
16:57:45)
- <Jolla> things that we should discuss in
more in the topic. At the end (rainemak,
16:57:45)
- <Jolla> of the day, we should incorporate
this an appropriate place. (rainemak,
16:57:45)
- <Jolla> (rainemak,
16:57:45)
- <Jolla> Keeping this as wikified topic is
in any case a good target. (rainemak,
16:57:45)
- Open Pull Requests (PRs) to discussion (5 mins -- asked by Jolla) (rainemak, 17:10:28)
- General discussion (10 mins) (rainemak, 17:15:23)
- Meetup in Barcelona next week Wednesday
(rainemak,
17:19:52)
- https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/27957
(rainemak,
17:19:52)
- Next meeting time and date (2 mins) (rainemak, 17:26:20)
- Next meeting will be held on Thursday 12th
March 2026 at 04:00pm UTC: 2026-03-12T1600Z (rainemak,
17:29:14)
Meeting ended at 17:30:33 UTC
(full logs).
Action items
- (none)
People present (lines said)
- rainemak (169)
- ExTechOp (17)
- abr (16)
- SailMaa[m] (13)
- mal (11)
- filip_k (10)
- ViGe (7)
- Keto (7)
- CLMA31[m] (6)
- zhasha (5)
- direc85[m] (4)
- sailbot (2)
- tuplasuhveli[m] (1)
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