================================================================================== #sailfishos-meeting: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 26th February 2026 ================================================================================== Meeting started by rainemak at 16:00:00 UTC. The full logs are available at https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2026/sailfishos-meeting.2026-02-26-16.00.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * Meeting information and agenda can be found here: (rainemak, 16:00:00) * LINK: https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/27745 (rainemak, 16:00:00) * Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with #info (rainemak, 16:00:00) * Raine Mäkeläinen, Jolla (rainemak, 16:00:32) * Andrew Branson, Jolla (abr, 16:00:43) * Ville Nummela, community (ViGe, 16:00:56) * Matti Viljanen, Jolla (direc85[m], 16:01:05) * Pami Ketolainen, Jolla (Keto, 16:01:31) * tuplasuhveli, community (doing dishes, so may not be able to participate) (tuplasuhveli[m], 16:01:33) * Filip, community (filip_k, 16:02:12) * Otto Mäkelä, community (ExTechOp, 16:02:17) * Unavailable Harbour applications (10 mins -- nephros) (rainemak, 16:05:01) * The Jolla Store/Harbour suffers some scarcity of apps. (rainemak, 16:05:02) * (rainemak, 16:05:02) * One of the issues is older apps which are not available to (rainemak, 16:05:02) * newer releases because of compatability issues or not having (rainemak, 16:05:02) * an aarch64 build available. (rainemak, 16:05:02) * (rainemak, 16:05:04) * Could Jolla provide a digest of apps in Harbour which: (rainemak, 16:05:06) * (rainemak, 16:05:08) * * do not have an aarch64 version ( or more generally do not (rainemak, 16:05:10) * support all three official architectures) (rainemak, 16:05:12) * (rainemak, 16:05:14) * * have SFOS Version compatibility detected so they do NOT (rainemak, 16:05:16) * support SFOS 5+ (rainemak, 16:05:18) * (rainemak, 16:05:20) * * if possible, contact information or web link to the author (rainemak, 16:05:24) * (of course, GPDR-compliant, so no names or email addresses (rainemak, 16:05:26) * etc), but maybe have a source link, or appear like they (rainemak, 16:05:28) * would be open source. (rainemak, 16:05:30) * (rainemak, 16:05:32) * Note I’m not asking that this become a feature of Harbour, (rainemak, 16:05:34) * just a one-time (or maybe in the future yearly or so) report. (rainemak, 16:05:36) * (rainemak, 16:05:38) * If Jolla can or will not provide such a report, is there a way (rainemak, 16:05:40) * for someone to generate it themselves, e.g. by analyzing the (rainemak, 16:05:42) * repodata xml files from the store repos? (rainemak, 16:05:44) * (rainemak, 16:05:46) * The goal would be so active community devs could pick up (rainemak, 16:05:48) * development for some of those apps if feasible. (rainemak, 16:05:50) * (rainemak, 16:05:54) * Similar to the efforts that have happened in e.g. Apps that (rainemak, 16:05:56) * haven't been ported to aarch64 and Apps that haven't been (rainemak, 16:05:58) * ported to aarch64 (Store) (rainemak, 16:06:00) * LINK: https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/apps-that-havent-been-ported-to-aarch64/8497 (rainemak, 16:06:02) * LINK: https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/apps-that-havent-been-ported-to-aarch64-store/7331 (rainemak, 16:06:04) * Let’s try to ease this problem somehow for us all. (rainemak, 16:06:06) * (rainemak, 16:06:08) * * A list of apps not having aarch64 version can be generated (rainemak, 16:06:10) * (rainemak, 16:06:12) * * Identifying latest compatible SFOS version is difficult in (rainemak, 16:06:14) * some cases, as the rpm dependencies alone don’t always cover (rainemak, 16:06:16) * this. But random-pick tests have shown that even apps not (rainemak, 16:06:18) * updated in the past decade are often compatible (rainemak, 16:06:20) * (rainemak, 16:06:24) * * Providing contact information is not possible due to GDPR. (rainemak, 16:06:26) * Some apps do have link to sources or web page is their public #info metadata (rainemak, 16:06:28) * (rainemak, 16:06:31) * Having a list of apps that do not have aarch64 support is (rainemak, 16:06:33) * already a good starting point. (rainemak, 16:06:35) * Process for taking over maintenance of apps in Harbour (5 mins -- asked by nephros) (rainemak, 16:19:27) * As a follow-up to the question above, what is the preferred (rainemak, 16:19:27) * way of taking over an app published in Harbour? (rainemak, 16:19:27) * (rainemak, 16:19:27) * What are prerequisites, and how does one contact Jolla to (rainemak, 16:19:28) * attempt it? (rainemak, 16:19:29) * The original owner of the app needs to contact Jolla and request (rainemak, 16:19:34) * ownership transfer. The request can be made in Harbour by (rainemak, 16:19:34) * submitting app update with a message to QA. (rainemak, 16:19:35) * What comes first out of beta: Xperia 10 IV & V or J2 (5 mins -- asked by Filip) (rainemak, 16:27:24) * Many of us bought those Sony phones in good faith on you. (rainemak, 16:27:25) * Unfortunately they are not “daily drivable” for many. Personally (rainemak, 16:27:25) * missing camera is a showstopper for me. Now I wonder if I should (rainemak, 16:27:25) * buy J2 since only a few hundreds (YAY) are available for preorder (rainemak, 16:27:25) * or wait for nonbeta Sony images. (rainemak, 16:27:26) * Let’s have an open discussion on this one. There ain’t really a (rainemak, 16:27:35) * question for us, this is more like a comment. (rainemak, 16:27:35) * Clarification of technical specs of J2 (and maybe even confirmation what should we call it) to one place (5 mins -- asked by CLMA31) (rainemak, 16:49:29) * I think most of the phone specs are now official, SoC, (rainemak, 16:49:29) * supported bands, camera modules etc. Problem is that those are (rainemak, 16:49:29) * a little bit scattered and would be amazing if they were added (rainemak, 16:49:29) * to the product page of J2. When trying to give these (rainemak, 16:49:29) * information to people online, it can be quite tricky to find (rainemak, 16:49:31) * them even myself. (rainemak, 16:49:33) * We’ll update the product page of Jolla Phone, more specifically (rainemak, 16:49:43) * tech specs section. (rainemak, 16:49:43) * LINK: https://commerce.jolla.com/products/jolla-phone-preorder#techspecs. (rainemak, 16:49:44) * SailMaa, community (SailMaa[m], 16:54:52) * CLMA31, community (CLMA31[m], 16:55:24) * “FAQ” topics in the “Getting Started” category (15 mins -- asked by CLMA31) (rainemak, 16:56:59) * There has been great community effort to create FAQ section for (rainemak, 16:56:59) * Getting started category. @attah raised the following comment: (rainemak, 16:56:59) * ”So how do we proceed? Would Jolla be ok to promote this to (rainemak, 16:56:59) * official status for the forum? Shameless ping @rainemak. (rainemak, 16:56:59) * (rainemak, 16:57:00) * The FAQ is looking quite nice at this point. Could do with a (rainemak, 16:57:02) * once-over for grammar and tone perhaps - along with addressing (rainemak, 16:57:04) * any objections or requests from Jolla.” (rainemak, 16:57:06) * (rainemak, 16:57:08) * I think it would be great to hear Jolla’s feeling about this (rainemak, 16:57:10) * kind of community development and if there is some kind of (rainemak, 16:57:12) * objections or request from Jolla’s side. Or other things to (rainemak, 16:57:14) * note. Personally I think it is great way to help newcomers. (rainemak, 16:57:16) * LINK: https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/faq-topics-in-the-getting-started-category/26055 (rainemak, 16:57:18) * Indeed, the FAQ starts looking really nice. There are some (rainemak, 16:57:45) * things that we should discuss in more in the topic. At the end (rainemak, 16:57:45) * of the day, we should incorporate this an appropriate place. (rainemak, 16:57:45) * (rainemak, 16:57:45) * Keeping this as wikified topic is in any case a good target. (rainemak, 16:57:45) * Open Pull Requests (PRs) to discussion (5 mins -- asked by Jolla) (rainemak, 17:10:28) * General discussion (10 mins) (rainemak, 17:15:23) * Meetup in Barcelona next week Wednesday (rainemak, 17:19:52) * LINK: https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/27957 (rainemak, 17:19:52) * Next meeting time and date (2 mins) (rainemak, 17:26:20) * Next meeting will be held on Thursday 12th March 2026 at 04:00pm UTC: 2026-03-12T1600Z (rainemak, 17:29:14) Meeting ended at 17:30:33 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * rainemak (169) * ExTechOp (17) * abr (16) * SailMaa[m] (13) * mal (11) * filip_k (10) * ViGe (7) * Keto (7) * CLMA31[m] (6) * zhasha (5) * direc85[m] (4) * sailbot (2) * tuplasuhveli[m] (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot