#sailfishos-meeting: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 26th March 2026

Meeting started by rainemak at 16:00:06 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

    1. Meeting information and agenda can be found here: (rainemak, 16:00:06)
    2. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/28325 (rainemak, 16:00:06)

  2. Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with #info (rainemak, 16:00:06)
    1. Raine Mäkeläinen, Jolla (rainemak, 16:00:14)
    2. Otto Mäkelä, community (ExTechOp, 16:00:20)
    3. mal, Jolla (mal, 16:00:54)
    4. Nico, community (Nico, 16:01:11)
    5. Andrew Branson, community (abr, 16:02:59)
    6. Affe Null, community (AffeNull[m], 16:03:41)
    7. sebix, community (sebix[m], 16:04:34)

  3. Shipping options for the new Jolla J2 to Greece or Serbia (5 mins -- PolatBirdal) (rainemak, 16:05:26)
    1. <PolatBirdal> I live in Türkiye and buying phones from abroad is prohibited. (rainemak, 16:05:26)
    2. <PolatBirdal> I plan to travel to Greece or Serbia to pick up my J2 order. (rainemak, 16:05:26)
    3. <PolatBirdal> Is it possible to have it sent to a ‘Poste Restante’ or a (rainemak, 16:05:26)
    4. <PolatBirdal> specific cargo point there, and which shipping company (DHL, (rainemak, 16:05:26)
    5. <PolatBirdal> National Post, etc.) does Jolla use for these countries? I am (rainemak, 16:05:27)
    6. <PolatBirdal> not a full citizen of that country, but when I go there from (rainemak, 16:05:29)
    7. <PolatBirdal> Türkiye, do I have the option of picking up the order there? (rainemak, 16:05:31)
    8. <PolatBirdal> Or could I encounter situations where I cannot receive it? (rainemak, 16:05:33)
    9. <Jolla> The sales markets are EU, UK, Switzerland and Norway. Entering other (rainemak, 16:05:56)
    10. <Jolla> markets are to be decided due course based on potential interest (rainemak, 16:05:56)
    11. <Jolla> from the areas. (rainemak, 16:05:56)
    12. <Jolla> (rainemak, 16:05:56)
    13. <Jolla> The shipping address will be requested upon final payment. You'll (rainemak, 16:05:56)
    14. <Jolla> receive a personal email regarding the final payment. We're (rainemak, 16:05:57)
    15. <Jolla> currently using UPS for Greece and we're not shipping to Serbia (rainemak, 16:05:59)
    16. <Jolla> (outside of EU). Hard to say anything definite regarding 'Poste (rainemak, 16:06:01)
    17. <Jolla> Restante' or similar -- probably depends on how long you're staying (rainemak, 16:06:03)
    18. <Jolla> and how long a service keeps parcels. (rainemak, 16:06:05)
    19. HengYeDev, community (HengYeDev, 16:06:08)

  4. pre-order question (5 mins -- PolatBirdal) (rainemak, 16:10:18)
    1. <PolatBirdal> In the pre-order section, they ask for our billing address (rainemak, 16:10:19)
    2. <PolatBirdal> instead of our delivery address. Does this mean we’ll only ask (rainemak, 16:10:19)
    3. <PolatBirdal> for your delivery address when you want to pay the full price? (rainemak, 16:10:19)
    4. <PolatBirdal> And will DHL generally be the shipping company? How can I get (rainemak, 16:10:20)
    5. <PolatBirdal> complete information about this, because I don’t have an (rainemak, 16:10:22)
    6. <PolatBirdal> address or contact anyone in that area where I’ll be placing (rainemak, 16:10:24)
    7. <PolatBirdal> the order, and I want to pick it up from the branch. (rainemak, 16:10:26)
    8. <Jolla> The shipping address will be requested upon final payment. You'll (rainemak, 16:10:28)
    9. <Jolla> receive a personal email regarding the final payment. DHL is not the (rainemak, 16:10:30)
    10. <Jolla> only used courier service. Currently used service is not user (rainemak, 16:10:32)
    11. <Jolla> selectable. (rainemak, 16:10:34)

  5. Chat protocols (15 mins -- asked by frankps) (rainemak, 16:14:45)
    1. <frankps> * For me phones are mainly for communication, photos and reading (rainemak, 16:14:45)
    2. <frankps> (news etc), and I try to only use native apps. (rainemak, 16:14:45)
    3. <frankps> * What initiatives are ongoing for chat clients by Jolla and the (rainemak, 16:14:45)
    4. <frankps> community? (rainemak, 16:14:45)
    5. <frankps> * What projects are active? (rainemak, 16:14:48)
    6. <frankps> * What should we focus on improving (bug fixes, new functionality (rainemak, 16:14:50)
    7. <frankps> and translations) before the new phone and new community members (rainemak, 16:14:52)
    8. <frankps> arrive? (rainemak, 16:14:54)
    9. <frankps> (rainemak, 16:14:56)
    10. <frankps> Examples on clients: (rainemak, 16:14:58)
    11. <frankps> * SailfishOS has a pretty good Nextcloud implementation, but lacks (rainemak, 16:15:00)
    12. <frankps> a decent Nextcloud Talk client. It was last updated in Dec 2022. (rainemak, 16:15:02)
    13. <frankps> * Europe seems to go for Matrix. There are some development on (rainemak, 16:15:04)
    14. <frankps> Sailtrix, but it lacks a lot of functionality (as a good (rainemak, 16:15:06)
    15. <frankps> encryption implementation). It was last updated in Dec 2025. (rainemak, 16:15:08)
    16. <frankps> * The Mattermost client has not been updated since 2021, but is (rainemak, 16:15:10)
    17. <frankps> still possible to use. (rainemak, 16:15:12)
    18. <frankps> * The XMPP implementation has not gotten love for years. (rainemak, 16:15:14)
    19. <frankps> * Signal - Whisperfish is actively maintained. (rainemak, 16:15:18)
    20. https://openrepos.net/content/blizzz/nextcloud-talk (rainemak, 16:15:20)
    21. https://openrepos.net/content/hengyedev/sailtrix (rainemak, 16:15:22)
    22. https://openrepos.net/content/sashikknox/mattermost (rainemak, 16:15:24)
    23. https://openrepos.net/content/rubdos/whisperfish (rainemak, 16:15:26)
    24. <frankps> Where do Jolla want to go? (rainemak, 16:15:28)
    25. <frankps> Where do the community want to go? (rainemak, 16:15:30)
    26. <Jolla> This topic contains many questions / ideas. Let's have open (rainemak, 16:15:32)
    27. <Jolla> discussion. There are probably good ideas from you, Sailfish (rainemak, 16:15:34)
    28. <Jolla> community, regarding this. We should consider open sourcing XMPP (rainemak, 16:15:36)
    29. <Jolla> account integration. (rainemak, 16:15:38)
    30. <Jolla> (rainemak, 16:15:40)
    31. <Jolla> Getting chat clients to official Jolla Store would be beneficial for (rainemak, 16:15:42)
    32. <Jolla> us all. (rainemak, 16:15:44)
    33. naphros, community, very late-comer (nephros, 16:21:54)

  6. Future for events view (10 mins -- asked by rubdos) (rainemak, 16:31:37)
    1. <rubdos> Now that we have Mastodon in the eventsview (thanks @abranson), I (rainemak, 16:31:37)
    2. <rubdos> think we might see a lot more integrations! I’d love to integrate (rainemak, 16:31:37)
    3. <rubdos> Signal stories (through Whisperfish). However, some media are (rainemak, 16:31:37)
    4. <rubdos> notably more slow compared to Twitter or Mastodon: Signal stories (rainemak, 16:31:37)
    5. <rubdos> hop on once every blue moon for me, and I wouldn’t want them to be (rainemak, 16:31:39)
    6. <rubdos> drowned in Mastodon retoots. I’d love some discussion on a modern (rainemak, 16:31:40)
    7. <rubdos> take of the event view. Can we prioritize certain media, or maybe (rainemak, 16:31:42)
    8. <rubdos> pin story-like events? This kind of events have an expiry date. (rainemak, 16:31:44)
    9. <Jolla> Let's have open discussion for this as well. (rainemak, 16:31:48)

  7. Using swipe gestures in browser (10 mins -- asked by tuplasuhveli) (rainemak, 16:44:37)
    1. <tuplasuhveli> SFOS’ design philosophy is centered around swipe actions. (rainemak, 16:44:37)
    2. <tuplasuhveli> Browser is understandably a bit of an outlier in this regard, (rainemak, 16:44:37)
    3. <tuplasuhveli> but perhaps there is room for adopting at least some. For (rainemak, 16:44:37)
    4. <tuplasuhveli> example, a patch maintained by @Kuba77 provides a (rainemak, 16:44:37)
    5. <tuplasuhveli> functionality to swipe on URL / toolbar to move back and (rainemak, 16:44:39)
    6. <tuplasuhveli> forth between pages. My questions are as follows: (rainemak, 16:44:40)
    7. <tuplasuhveli> 1. Do you find the functionality provided by the previously (rainemak, 16:44:42)
    8. <tuplasuhveli> mentioned patch to be in line with SFOS’ design (rainemak, 16:44:44)
    9. <tuplasuhveli> philosophy? (rainemak, 16:44:48)
    10. <tuplasuhveli> 2. If yes, do you think this functionality could be provided (rainemak, 16:44:50)
    11. <tuplasuhveli> out of the box in an upcoming SFOS version? (rainemak, 16:44:52)
    12. <tuplasuhveli> 3. Have you considered some other gestures to be utilised in (rainemak, 16:44:54)
    13. <tuplasuhveli> browser? (rainemak, 16:44:56)
    14. https://coderus.openrepos.net/pm2/project/browser-history-swipes (rainemak, 16:44:58)
    15. https://openrepos.net/content/cornerman/patch-browser-history-swipes (rainemak, 16:45:00)
    16. <Jolla> Thank you for raising this topic. We can certainly discuss this over (rainemak, 16:45:30)
    17. <Jolla> here in the community meeting. The link to the patch2 didn't work (rainemak, 16:45:30)
    18. <Jolla> but it's likely the same as the above other link. Browser is an open (rainemak, 16:45:30)
    19. <Jolla> source and contributions are welcome. Whether to implement this (rainemak, 16:45:30)
    20. <Jolla> exactly like done in the patch is another topic of it's own. (rainemak, 16:45:30)
    21. <Jolla> (rainemak, 16:45:31)
    22. <Jolla> We were thinking quite a bit of different gestures for browser a way (rainemak, 16:45:33)
    23. <Jolla> back. Lately we haven't have time for that. (rainemak, 16:45:35)
    24. <Jolla> (rainemak, 16:45:37)
    25. <Jolla> This patch could be turned into a pull request for browser and be (rainemak, 16:45:39)
    26. <Jolla> discussed there. (rainemak, 16:45:41)

  8. Possibility to minimise phone app during the emergency call (10 mins -- asked by CLMA31) (rainemak, 16:53:53)
    1. <CLMA31> There are reports from community ( Reliable emergency calls - #23 (rainemak, 16:53:53)
    2. <CLMA31> by kari.einamo ) that during emergency call it is not possible to (rainemak, 16:53:53)
    3. <CLMA31> minimise the phone app which makes it impossible to access any (rainemak, 16:53:53)
    4. <CLMA31> further information from phone. Is this bug or planned feature? (rainemak, 16:53:53)
    5. <CLMA31> Either way, would it be possible to make minimisation of phone app (rainemak, 16:53:55)
    6. <CLMA31> possible so we could use phone still otherwise? I have only called (rainemak, 16:53:57)
    7. <CLMA31> emergency services few times, but during all of them I had to (rainemak, 16:53:59)
    8. <CLMA31> access my phone otherwise (coordinates are quite crucial). (rainemak, 16:54:01)
    9. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/reliable-emergency-calls/26085/23 (rainemak, 16:54:03)
    10. <Jolla> It's intentionally implemented like that. In the past there was an (rainemak, 16:54:05)
    11. <Jolla> issue on performing an emergency call from SIM PIN query view and on (rainemak, 16:54:07)
    12. <Jolla> going call went to background. (rainemak, 16:54:09)
    13. <Jolla> (rainemak, 16:54:11)
    14. <Jolla> We should revisit and/or re-test. The point raised is absolutely (rainemak, 16:54:13)
    15. <Jolla> valid. (rainemak, 16:54:15)

  9. Home screen app grid (minimized apps) 3x2 instead 2x2 for new Jolla phone (10 mins -- asked by CLMA31) (rainemak, 16:57:25)
    1. <CLMA31> @MartiMasaKoegx raised good poll regarding the minimised app grid (rainemak, 16:57:25)
    2. <CLMA31> whether it should be 3x2 or 2x2. This consideration was about new (rainemak, 16:57:25)
    3. <CLMA31> Jolla Phone. Second idea regarding this topic is from @fingus (rainemak, 16:57:25)
    4. <CLMA31> Community meeting on 26th March 2026 - #13 by fingus . This would (rainemak, 16:57:25)
    5. <CLMA31> allow user to zoom in/out to have smaller or larger app grid tile. (rainemak, 16:57:27)
    6. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/home-screen-app-grid-minimized-apps-3x2-instead-2x2-for-new-jolla-phone-as-well/28624 (rainemak, 16:57:29)
    7. https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-26th-march-2026/28325/13 (rainemak, 16:57:32)
    8. <Jolla> To clarify MartiMasaKoegx's poll it was about the bigger size cover (rainemak, 16:57:34)
    9. <Jolla> and how many of them there should be. Currently there's unused space (rainemak, 16:57:36)
    10. <Jolla> at the end of the Switcher when 4 apps are open. 5th opened app (rainemak, 16:57:38)
    11. <Jolla> changes Switcher to small cover mode. This is already visible with (rainemak, 16:57:40)
    12. <Jolla> the Jolla C2 Community Phone. (rainemak, 16:57:42)
    13. <Jolla> (rainemak, 16:57:44)
    14. <Jolla> Yes, we should be using the screen estate efficiently. So preferably (rainemak, 16:57:48)
    15. <Jolla> two big covers side by side and in three rows. (rainemak, 16:57:50)
    16. <Jolla> (rainemak, 16:57:52)
    17. <Jolla> Maybe a gesture could be introduced for zoom in/out. (rainemak, 16:57:54)

  10. The screen specifications of this phone have not been disclosed. (5 mins -- asked by PolatBirdal) (rainemak, 17:06:22)
    1. <PolatBirdal> Hi, the Jolla J2 phone is currently just a prototype. I’ve (rainemak, 17:06:22)
    2. <PolatBirdal> come across promotional videos of the phone and it seems there (rainemak, 17:06:22)
    3. <PolatBirdal> are only 9 prototypes. My question is: What will the screen (rainemak, 17:06:22)
    4. <PolatBirdal> refresh rate of this phone be? If I’m giving my opinion, (rainemak, 17:06:22)
    5. <PolatBirdal> please let it be at least 90Hz. (rainemak, 17:06:24)
    6. <Jolla> Yes, screen refresh rate is 90Hz. (rainemak, 17:06:26)

  11. Open Pull Requests (PRs) to discussion (5 mins -- asked by Jolla) (rainemak, 17:08:36)
  12. General discussion (10 mins) (rainemak, 17:17:05)
  13. Next meeting time and date (2 mins) (rainemak, 17:26:43)
    1. Next meeting will be held on Thursday 9th April 2026 at 04:00pm UTC: 2026-04-09T1600Z (rainemak, 17:28:12)


Meeting ended at 17:28:34 UTC (full logs).

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  3. nephros (9)
  4. HengYeDev (8)
  5. ExTechOp (7)
  6. Keto (4)
  7. mal (3)
  8. sebix[m] (3)
  9. piggz[m] (3)
  10. sailbot (2)
  11. Nico (1)
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