=============================================================================== #sailfishos-meeting: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 26th March 2026 =============================================================================== Meeting started by rainemak at 16:00:06 UTC. The full logs are available at https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2026/sailfishos-meeting.2026-03-26-16.00.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * Meeting information and agenda can be found here: (rainemak, 16:00:06) * LINK: https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/28325 (rainemak, 16:00:06) * Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with #info (rainemak, 16:00:06) * Raine Mäkeläinen, Jolla (rainemak, 16:00:14) * Otto Mäkelä, community (ExTechOp, 16:00:20) * mal, Jolla (mal, 16:00:54) * Nico, community (Nico, 16:01:11) * Andrew Branson, community (abr, 16:02:59) * Affe Null, community (AffeNull[m], 16:03:41) * sebix, community (sebix[m], 16:04:34) * Shipping options for the new Jolla J2 to Greece or Serbia (5 mins -- PolatBirdal) (rainemak, 16:05:26) * I live in Türkiye and buying phones from abroad is prohibited. (rainemak, 16:05:26) * I plan to travel to Greece or Serbia to pick up my J2 order. (rainemak, 16:05:26) * Is it possible to have it sent to a ‘Poste Restante’ or a (rainemak, 16:05:26) * specific cargo point there, and which shipping company (DHL, (rainemak, 16:05:26) * National Post, etc.) does Jolla use for these countries? I am (rainemak, 16:05:27) * not a full citizen of that country, but when I go there from (rainemak, 16:05:29) * Türkiye, do I have the option of picking up the order there? (rainemak, 16:05:31) * Or could I encounter situations where I cannot receive it? (rainemak, 16:05:33) * The sales markets are EU, UK, Switzerland and Norway. Entering other (rainemak, 16:05:56) * markets are to be decided due course based on potential interest (rainemak, 16:05:56) * from the areas. (rainemak, 16:05:56) * (rainemak, 16:05:56) * The shipping address will be requested upon final payment. You'll (rainemak, 16:05:56) * receive a personal email regarding the final payment. We're (rainemak, 16:05:57) * currently using UPS for Greece and we're not shipping to Serbia (rainemak, 16:05:59) * (outside of EU). Hard to say anything definite regarding 'Poste (rainemak, 16:06:01) * Restante' or similar -- probably depends on how long you're staying (rainemak, 16:06:03) * and how long a service keeps parcels. (rainemak, 16:06:05) * HengYeDev, community (HengYeDev, 16:06:08) * pre-order question (5 mins -- PolatBirdal) (rainemak, 16:10:18) * In the pre-order section, they ask for our billing address (rainemak, 16:10:19) * instead of our delivery address. Does this mean we’ll only ask (rainemak, 16:10:19) * for your delivery address when you want to pay the full price? (rainemak, 16:10:19) * And will DHL generally be the shipping company? How can I get (rainemak, 16:10:20) * complete information about this, because I don’t have an (rainemak, 16:10:22) * address or contact anyone in that area where I’ll be placing (rainemak, 16:10:24) * the order, and I want to pick it up from the branch. (rainemak, 16:10:26) * The shipping address will be requested upon final payment. You'll (rainemak, 16:10:28) * receive a personal email regarding the final payment. DHL is not the (rainemak, 16:10:30) * only used courier service. Currently used service is not user (rainemak, 16:10:32) * selectable. (rainemak, 16:10:34) * Chat protocols (15 mins -- asked by frankps) (rainemak, 16:14:45) * * For me phones are mainly for communication, photos and reading (rainemak, 16:14:45) * (news etc), and I try to only use native apps. (rainemak, 16:14:45) * * What initiatives are ongoing for chat clients by Jolla and the (rainemak, 16:14:45) * community? (rainemak, 16:14:45) * * What projects are active? (rainemak, 16:14:48) * * What should we focus on improving (bug fixes, new functionality (rainemak, 16:14:50) * and translations) before the new phone and new community members (rainemak, 16:14:52) * arrive? (rainemak, 16:14:54) * (rainemak, 16:14:56) * Examples on clients: (rainemak, 16:14:58) * * SailfishOS has a pretty good Nextcloud implementation, but lacks (rainemak, 16:15:00) * a decent Nextcloud Talk client. It was last updated in Dec 2022. (rainemak, 16:15:02) * * Europe seems to go for Matrix. There are some development on (rainemak, 16:15:04) * Sailtrix, but it lacks a lot of functionality (as a good (rainemak, 16:15:06) * encryption implementation). It was last updated in Dec 2025. (rainemak, 16:15:08) * * The Mattermost client has not been updated since 2021, but is (rainemak, 16:15:10) * still possible to use. (rainemak, 16:15:12) * * The XMPP implementation has not gotten love for years. (rainemak, 16:15:14) * * Signal - Whisperfish is actively maintained. (rainemak, 16:15:18) * LINK: https://openrepos.net/content/blizzz/nextcloud-talk (rainemak, 16:15:20) * LINK: https://openrepos.net/content/hengyedev/sailtrix (rainemak, 16:15:22) * LINK: https://openrepos.net/content/sashikknox/mattermost (rainemak, 16:15:24) * LINK: https://openrepos.net/content/rubdos/whisperfish (rainemak, 16:15:26) * Where do Jolla want to go? (rainemak, 16:15:28) * Where do the community want to go? (rainemak, 16:15:30) * This topic contains many questions / ideas. Let's have open (rainemak, 16:15:32) * discussion. There are probably good ideas from you, Sailfish (rainemak, 16:15:34) * community, regarding this. We should consider open sourcing XMPP (rainemak, 16:15:36) * account integration. (rainemak, 16:15:38) * (rainemak, 16:15:40) * Getting chat clients to official Jolla Store would be beneficial for (rainemak, 16:15:42) * us all. (rainemak, 16:15:44) * naphros, community, very late-comer (nephros, 16:21:54) * Future for events view (10 mins -- asked by rubdos) (rainemak, 16:31:37) * Now that we have Mastodon in the eventsview (thanks @abranson), I (rainemak, 16:31:37) * think we might see a lot more integrations! I’d love to integrate (rainemak, 16:31:37) * Signal stories (through Whisperfish). However, some media are (rainemak, 16:31:37) * notably more slow compared to Twitter or Mastodon: Signal stories (rainemak, 16:31:37) * hop on once every blue moon for me, and I wouldn’t want them to be (rainemak, 16:31:39) * drowned in Mastodon retoots. I’d love some discussion on a modern (rainemak, 16:31:40) * take of the event view. Can we prioritize certain media, or maybe (rainemak, 16:31:42) * pin story-like events? This kind of events have an expiry date. (rainemak, 16:31:44) * Let's have open discussion for this as well. (rainemak, 16:31:48) * Using swipe gestures in browser (10 mins -- asked by tuplasuhveli) (rainemak, 16:44:37) * SFOS’ design philosophy is centered around swipe actions. (rainemak, 16:44:37) * Browser is understandably a bit of an outlier in this regard, (rainemak, 16:44:37) * but perhaps there is room for adopting at least some. For (rainemak, 16:44:37) * example, a patch maintained by @Kuba77 provides a (rainemak, 16:44:37) * functionality to swipe on URL / toolbar to move back and (rainemak, 16:44:39) * forth between pages. My questions are as follows: (rainemak, 16:44:40) * 1. Do you find the functionality provided by the previously (rainemak, 16:44:42) * mentioned patch to be in line with SFOS’ design (rainemak, 16:44:44) * philosophy? (rainemak, 16:44:48) * 2. If yes, do you think this functionality could be provided (rainemak, 16:44:50) * out of the box in an upcoming SFOS version? (rainemak, 16:44:52) * 3. Have you considered some other gestures to be utilised in (rainemak, 16:44:54) * browser? (rainemak, 16:44:56) * LINK: https://coderus.openrepos.net/pm2/project/browser-history-swipes (rainemak, 16:44:58) * LINK: https://openrepos.net/content/cornerman/patch-browser-history-swipes (rainemak, 16:45:00) * Thank you for raising this topic. We can certainly discuss this over (rainemak, 16:45:30) * here in the community meeting. The link to the patch2 didn't work (rainemak, 16:45:30) * but it's likely the same as the above other link. Browser is an open (rainemak, 16:45:30) * source and contributions are welcome. Whether to implement this (rainemak, 16:45:30) * exactly like done in the patch is another topic of it's own. (rainemak, 16:45:30) * (rainemak, 16:45:31) * We were thinking quite a bit of different gestures for browser a way (rainemak, 16:45:33) * back. Lately we haven't have time for that. (rainemak, 16:45:35) * (rainemak, 16:45:37) * This patch could be turned into a pull request for browser and be (rainemak, 16:45:39) * discussed there. (rainemak, 16:45:41) * Possibility to minimise phone app during the emergency call (10 mins -- asked by CLMA31) (rainemak, 16:53:53) * There are reports from community ( Reliable emergency calls - #23 (rainemak, 16:53:53) * by kari.einamo ) that during emergency call it is not possible to (rainemak, 16:53:53) * minimise the phone app which makes it impossible to access any (rainemak, 16:53:53) * further information from phone. Is this bug or planned feature? (rainemak, 16:53:53) * Either way, would it be possible to make minimisation of phone app (rainemak, 16:53:55) * possible so we could use phone still otherwise? I have only called (rainemak, 16:53:57) * emergency services few times, but during all of them I had to (rainemak, 16:53:59) * access my phone otherwise (coordinates are quite crucial). (rainemak, 16:54:01) * LINK: https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/reliable-emergency-calls/26085/23 (rainemak, 16:54:03) * It's intentionally implemented like that. In the past there was an (rainemak, 16:54:05) * issue on performing an emergency call from SIM PIN query view and on (rainemak, 16:54:07) * going call went to background. (rainemak, 16:54:09) * (rainemak, 16:54:11) * We should revisit and/or re-test. The point raised is absolutely (rainemak, 16:54:13) * valid. (rainemak, 16:54:15) * Home screen app grid (minimized apps) 3x2 instead 2x2 for new Jolla phone (10 mins -- asked by CLMA31) (rainemak, 16:57:25) * @MartiMasaKoegx raised good poll regarding the minimised app grid (rainemak, 16:57:25) * whether it should be 3x2 or 2x2. This consideration was about new (rainemak, 16:57:25) * Jolla Phone. Second idea regarding this topic is from @fingus (rainemak, 16:57:25) * Community meeting on 26th March 2026 - #13 by fingus . This would (rainemak, 16:57:25) * allow user to zoom in/out to have smaller or larger app grid tile. (rainemak, 16:57:27) * LINK: https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/home-screen-app-grid-minimized-apps-3x2-instead-2x2-for-new-jolla-phone-as-well/28624 (rainemak, 16:57:29) * LINK: https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-26th-march-2026/28325/13 (rainemak, 16:57:32) * To clarify MartiMasaKoegx's poll it was about the bigger size cover (rainemak, 16:57:34) * and how many of them there should be. Currently there's unused space (rainemak, 16:57:36) * at the end of the Switcher when 4 apps are open. 5th opened app (rainemak, 16:57:38) * changes Switcher to small cover mode. This is already visible with (rainemak, 16:57:40) * the Jolla C2 Community Phone. (rainemak, 16:57:42) * (rainemak, 16:57:44) * Yes, we should be using the screen estate efficiently. So preferably (rainemak, 16:57:48) * two big covers side by side and in three rows. (rainemak, 16:57:50) * (rainemak, 16:57:52) * Maybe a gesture could be introduced for zoom in/out. (rainemak, 16:57:54) * The screen specifications of this phone have not been disclosed. (5 mins -- asked by PolatBirdal) (rainemak, 17:06:22) * Hi, the Jolla J2 phone is currently just a prototype. I’ve (rainemak, 17:06:22) * come across promotional videos of the phone and it seems there (rainemak, 17:06:22) * are only 9 prototypes. My question is: What will the screen (rainemak, 17:06:22) * refresh rate of this phone be? If I’m giving my opinion, (rainemak, 17:06:22) * please let it be at least 90Hz. (rainemak, 17:06:24) * Yes, screen refresh rate is 90Hz. (rainemak, 17:06:26) * Open Pull Requests (PRs) to discussion (5 mins -- asked by Jolla) (rainemak, 17:08:36) * General discussion (10 mins) (rainemak, 17:17:05) * Next meeting time and date (2 mins) (rainemak, 17:26:43) * Next meeting will be held on Thursday 9th April 2026 at 04:00pm UTC: 2026-04-09T1600Z (rainemak, 17:28:12) Meeting ended at 17:28:34 UTC. 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