=============================================================================== #sailfishos-meeting: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 23rd April 2026 =============================================================================== Meeting started by rainemak at 16:00:09 UTC. The full logs are available at https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2026/sailfishos-meeting.2026-04-23-16.00.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * Meeting information and agenda can be found here: (rainemak, 16:00:09) * LINK: https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/29030/3 (rainemak, 16:00:09) * Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with #info (rainemak, 16:00:09) * Otto Mäkelä, community (extechop[m], 16:00:16) * Raine Mäkeläinen, Jolla (rainemak, 16:00:22) * Nico, community (Nico, 16:00:27) * Andrea Scarpino, community (Guest6720, 16:00:35) * Matti Viljanen, Jolla (direc85[m], 16:01:03) * mal, Jolla (mal, 16:04:41) * Niels, Community (fingus, 16:04:48) * frankps, Community (frankps, 16:05:03) * Keyboard and predictive text (5 mins -- Kanthal) (rainemak, 16:05:06) * Hello! (rainemak, 16:05:06) * I am curious if there are any plans to modernize the whole (rainemak, 16:05:06) * keyboard experience, especially since there will be a lot of new (rainemak, 16:05:06) * users with J2. (rainemak, 16:05:06) * As an example I struggle to type on a keyboard that doesn’t have (rainemak, 16:05:07) * borders around the letters, suggestions, autocorrect (didn’t have (rainemak, 16:05:09) * that in my language even with XT9). (rainemak, 16:05:11) * Features like OTP codes being shown as a autofill suggestion when (rainemak, 16:05:13) * you receive them in sms/email are also very helpful and pretty (rainemak, 16:05:15) * much standard on other platforms. (rainemak, 16:05:17) * (rainemak, 16:05:19) * So I would like to know if reworking the keyboard is on the (rainemak, 16:05:21) * horizon. (rainemak, 16:05:23) * Thanks in advance! (rainemak, 16:05:27) * Thank you for your question. Prediction is something that we're (rainemak, 16:05:29) * thinking about. Earlier we mentioned presage as an option. We (rainemak, 16:05:31) * should investigate if we could do something with hunspell. Let's (rainemak, 16:05:33) * see what can we make for Sailfish OS 5.2. (rainemak, 16:05:35) * Community Tasks Board (10 mins -- nephros) (rainemak, 16:11:51) * LINK: https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-23rd-april-2026/29030/3 (rainemak, 16:11:51) * What an excellent topic. We have been steering this all towards (rainemak, 16:13:01) * GitHub Sailfish OS issues. Same time we are opening issues from the (rainemak, 16:13:01) * internal issue tracker to public -- let us do it in our own phase. (rainemak, 16:13:01) * It'll take time. Espacially regarding components that are already (rainemak, 16:13:01) * open sourced. (rainemak, 16:13:01) * (rainemak, 16:13:03) * We're open to new plugins for GitHub, let's avoid intoducting (rainemak, 16:13:04) * something completely new. (rainemak, 16:13:06) * ACTION: We need to improve / figure community task board (rainemak, 16:21:01) * Tracking of non-resolved Community Meeting topics (10 mins -- nephros) (rainemak, 16:22:05) * While these meetings offer a nice and welcome opportunity for the (rainemak, 16:22:05) * Community to discuss topics, the results of the meetings tend to (rainemak, 16:22:05) * be very non-committal/consequential. Words like “later”, “we will (rainemak, 16:22:05) * come back to this” etc. (rainemak, 16:22:05) * This is fine - however, often things that should have received an (rainemak, 16:22:07) * answer “later” are lost in time/memory/the meeting logs. (rainemak, 16:22:08) * As the Meeting bot has the capability of creating "action items’, (rainemak, 16:22:10) * I propose using that to record things that should be revisited (rainemak, 16:22:12) * “later”. (rainemak, 16:22:14) * (rainemak, 16:22:16) * At the start of each subsequent meeting, if there were updates to (rainemak, 16:22:18) * a previous Action Item, this should be presented briefly. (rainemak, 16:22:20) * (rainemak, 16:22:22) * Action Items should only be added if they have some resemblance (rainemak, 16:22:26) * of importance. Not every unresolved topic needs to be an action (rainemak, 16:22:28) * item. (rainemak, 16:22:30) * Whether something is an Action Item or not is decided by the (rainemak, 16:22:32) * Meeting Chair Person only. (rainemak, 16:22:34) * This we should tackle the soonest. Proposal would be that Meeting (rainemak, 16:22:41) * Chair Person keeps track on the action items. We could repeat open (rainemak, 16:22:41) * actions as a first item after intro. That's in itself is an (rainemak, 16:22:42) * action point for rainemak. Like requested, let's focus on the how (rainemak, 16:22:44) * part. (rainemak, 16:22:46) * Meeting Chair should flag actions as suggested. (rainemak, 16:23:21) * ACTION: Actions to be followed up meeting by meeting (rainemak, 16:24:31) * ACTION: Jolla to adjust meeting template (rainemak, 16:33:07) * user-replaceable battery on the Jolla J2 site (5 mins -- PolatBirdal) (rainemak, 16:33:55) * Hello, there is a statement on your site saying “user- (rainemak, 16:33:55) * replaceable battery,” but recently when we examined the (rainemak, 16:33:55) * phones with friends in the group, the phone’s battery was (rainemak, 16:33:55) * under a protective plate, and the protective plate was (rainemak, 16:33:55) * screwed to the case. Logically, how can it be replaced by the (rainemak, 16:33:56) * user? (rainemak, 16:33:58) * Yes, you need to open the screws to replace battery. The battery #info won't be glued so no need for heater. (rainemak, 16:34:00) * details of the return conditions regarding the product (5 mins -- PolatBirdal) (rainemak, 16:40:06) * Hello, I asked before as well, yes, but I forgot to ask for (rainemak, 16:40:06) * the details, so you answered according to the situation I (rainemak, 16:40:06) * asked about. I could not fully explain the situation in the (rainemak, 16:40:06) * community chat. The exact issue is this: of course, we also (rainemak, 16:40:06) * know this device is a European device, meaning it is expected (rainemak, 16:40:07) * to be marketed within Europe, but as people who like Jolla, (rainemak, 16:40:08) * we accepted this difficulty and prepared shipping companies (rainemak, 16:40:10) * like forward2me. In this sense, what kinds of problems that (rainemak, 16:40:12) * may arise from handing it over to a shipping company are we (rainemak, 16:40:14) * responsible for? If a problem comes up during the shipping (rainemak, 16:40:16) * process and the shipping company has the product but is not (rainemak, 16:40:18) * sending it, are we free to use our return option at that (rainemak, 16:40:20) * moment, or since we have already given this product to the (rainemak, 16:40:22) * shipping company, do we no longer have any return right at (rainemak, 16:40:26) * all under any circumstances? (rainemak, 16:40:28) * This should be covered in forum already. Anything missing? (rainemak, 16:40:30) * LINK: https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-23rd-april-2026/29030/9 (rainemak, 16:40:32) * Some love for Harbour (5 mins -- ilpianista) (rainemak, 16:44:14) * I read several topics about what API are missing in Harbour so (rainemak, 16:44:14) * that we get more apps into it, however none is talking about (rainemak, 16:44:15) * the Harbour “dev experience”. I’m sorry, but from my point of (rainemak, 16:44:15) * view: it s*cks. We are waiting for a wave of new users, but (rainemak, 16:44:15) * there could be developers among them as well. I would like to (rainemak, 16:44:16) * see these things implemented in harbour ASAP: 1) notifications (rainemak, 16:44:18) * for approved/rejected apps, 2) notifications for comments and (rainemak, 16:44:20) * 3) two factor authentication, as I’m concerned about supply (rainemak, 16:44:22) * chain attacks which are quite popular and successful. (rainemak, 16:44:26) * Good points. Let's have open discussion on the topic. (rainemak, 16:44:28) * Batterys for Jolla C2 and more (5 mins -- asked by fingus) (rainemak, 16:55:24) * The first shipped Jolla C2 units (including mine) are now about (rainemak, 16:55:24) * 1,5 years old, and I think this is a good time to start (rainemak, 16:55:24) * considering the supply of spare batteries for them. The (rainemak, 16:55:25) * possibility of getting Reeder S19 Max Pro S batteries in Europe (rainemak, 16:55:26) * looks bad, so this seems to be an important issue to resolve. I (rainemak, 16:55:28) * also contacted our spare-parts distributor (https://www.aswo.de, (rainemak, 16:55:30) * they are reliable, fast, have been on the market for a long time (rainemak, 16:55:32) * and have a good reputation.), from whom we purchase a large number (rainemak, 16:55:34) * of spare parts for the notebooks, tablets, and smartphones we sell (rainemak, 16:55:36) * at the company where I work. We have been working with them for (rainemak, 16:55:38) * the last 24 years and they provide a good service. I explained the (rainemak, 16:55:40) * situation with the new Jolla phones and gave them (german parent (rainemak, 16:55:42) * company) your contact information, so you (or reeder) might be (rainemak, 16:55:44) * able to form a joint venture for spare parts. The goals of this (rainemak, 16:55:46) * idea are availability, lower-cost and faster shipping and leave (rainemak, 16:55:48) * out this kind of work for your employees. I also offered to stay (rainemak, 16:55:50) * in contact with them about this matter to provide further (rainemak, 16:55:52) * information as a German native speaker with a technical background (rainemak, 16:55:56) * and as a community spokesperson. (rainemak, 16:55:58) * (rainemak, 16:56:00) * I’ll try to attend, but no promises (when stuck in traffic jam), (rainemak, 16:56:02) * maybe shift this topic to latest slot. (rainemak, 16:56:04) * Currently we are lacking spare batteries for Jolla C2. We do have (rainemak, 16:56:06) * replacement units though. Further, swapping battery on Jolla C2 is (rainemak, 16:56:08) * not straight-forward as you need in practice heat the back plate to (rainemak, 16:56:10) * get it properly detached (without breaking it). It's not (rainemak, 16:56:12) * recommended to try to swap Jolla C2 battery yourself. (rainemak, 16:56:14) * Open Pull Requests (PRs) to discussion (5 mins -- asked by Jolla) (rainemak, 17:05:20) * General discussion (10 mins) (rainemak, 17:14:45) * Next meeting time and date (2 mins) (rainemak, 17:26:45) * Next meeting will be held on Thursday 7th May 2026 at 04:00pm UTC: 2026-05-07T1600Z (rainemak, 17:28:55) Meeting ended at 17:29:29 UTC. 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