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#sailfishos-meeting: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 18th June 2026
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Meeting started by rainemak at 16:00:26 UTC. The full logs are available
at
https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2026/sailfishos-meeting.2026-06-18-16.00.log.html
.



Meeting summary
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* Meeting information and agenda can be found here:  (rainemak,
  16:00:26)
* LINK: https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/29888   (rainemak, 16:00:26)
* Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with #info
  (rainemak, 16:00:26)
  * Raine Mäkeläinen, Jolla  (rainemak, 16:00:32)
  * Otto Mäkelä, community  (extechop[m], 16:00:40)
  * mal, Jolla  (mal, 16:01:02)
  * nephros, community, proxying for peterleinchen  (nephros_, 16:01:15)
  * piggz community  (piggz[m], 16:01:22)
  * Matti Viljanen, Jolla  (direc85[m], 16:01:37)
  * jojomen community  (jojomen, 16:02:12)
  * Morugan community  (Morugan[m], 16:03:07)
  * polat  (Polatbirdal, 16:05:03)

* Tracking of non-resolved Community Meeting topics  (rainemak,
  16:05:24)
  * ACTION: Community task board  (rainemak, 16:05:24)
  * LINK:
    https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-23rd-april-2026/29030/3
    (rainemak, 16:05:24)
  * ACTION: Jolla to update regarding recommended charging cables and
    chargers.  (rainemak, 16:05:24)
  * LINK:
    https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-7th-may-2026/29253/2
    (rainemak, 16:05:24)
  * No actions taken yet regarding community task board nor charger /
    cables.  (rainemak, 16:05:25)
  * Venty Longtime SFOS User  (Venty[m], 16:05:46)
  * Nico Community, user, and interested in the Mind2 situation :D
    (PublicNico, 16:06:34)

* Defender and it’s Harbour compliance, Benefit for all new users,
  expected to come soon™ (25 mins -- peterleinchen)  (rainemak,
  16:07:25)
  * <peterleinchen> harbour-defender, the privacy guard is a tool that
    (rainemak, 16:07:25)
  * <peterleinchen>  (rainemak, 16:07:25)
  * <peterleinchen> - Let the user choose from a list of internet #info
    #info <peterleinchen> available ad-blocker  (rainemak, 16:07:25)
  * <peterleinchen> - It works on domain based blocking via /etc/hosts.
    (rainemak, 16:07:26)
  * <peterleinchen> For this it needs -obviously- to modify the hosts
    #info <peterleinchen> file. This is not allowed AFAIK, so for this
    it would  (rainemak, 16:07:28)
  * <peterleinchen> need an exception!  (rainemak, 16:07:33)
  * <peterleinchen> - It is a pure qml app ( with a one-liner cpp)
    running  (rainemak, 16:07:35)
  * <peterleinchen> as defaultuser (nemo) and does not have and does not
    (rainemak, 16:07:37)
  * <peterleinchen> need root rights.  (rainemak, 16:07:39)
  * <peterleinchen> - (Root, where needed) functionality is purely
    (rainemak, 16:07:41)
  * <peterleinchen> implemented in python and only available as function
    (rainemak, 16:07:43)
  * <peterleinchen> calls.  (rainemak, 16:07:45)
  * <peterleinchen> - Furthermore it deals with the sailfish-browser
    (rainemak, 16:07:47)
  * <peterleinchen> cookies.sqlite DB file. It can delete cookies from
    (rainemak, 16:07:49)
  * <peterleinchen> blacklist (or not whitelisted). And persist the DB
    by  (rainemak, 16:07:51)
  * <peterleinchen> setting the file to read-only. Most probably another
    (rainemak, 16:07:53)
  * <peterleinchen> exception needed!  (rainemak, 16:07:55)
  * <peterleinchen> - Setting the domain blocking in /etc/hosts works as
    (rainemak, 16:07:57)
  * <peterleinchen> well for AlienDalvik/AppSupport. Which of course
    means  (rainemak, 16:08:01)
  * <peterleinchen> its /system/etc/hosts is modified also. The service
    (rainemak, 16:08:03)
  * <peterleinchen> can be restarted via menu item.  (rainemak,
    16:08:05)
  * <peterleinchen> - PublicDir and browser is used for error messages.
    (rainemak, 16:08:07)
  * <peterleinchen> - Right now I still use /var/log and /tmp but could
    (rainemak, 16:08:09)
  * <peterleinchen> relocate those files to .config or .cache??
    (rainemak, 16:08:11)
  * <peterleinchen> - A config file written to /etc (on purpose, so that
    (rainemak, 16:08:13)
  * <peterleinchen> Jane Doe cannot modify)  (rainemak, 16:08:15)
  * <peterleinchen> - Ah, and one more: the update is scheduled with a
    (rainemak, 16:08:17)
  * <peterleinchen> timer service (which should be okay, or?)
    (rainemak, 16:08:19)
  * <Jolla> Very nice idea! We have been thinkering something similar.
    (rainemak, 16:08:21)
  * <Jolla> How it looks now with this input is that architectural
    (rainemak, 16:08:23)
  * <Jolla> changes are needed. A container based solution where we'd
    use  (rainemak, 16:08:25)
  * <Jolla> something pi-hole could probably tackle good amount of these
    (rainemak, 16:08:27)
  * <Jolla> things (surely not all). It's good to use existing solution
    (rainemak, 16:08:31)
  * <Jolla> wherever possible, not invented here is not good. Bare
    (rainemak, 16:08:33)
  * <Jolla> minimum is that we have a daemon as an access control
    (rainemak, 16:08:35)
  * <Jolla> component. In between of the lines it looks that python
    (rainemak, 16:08:37)
  * <Jolla> thingie already acts as a daemon, is that correct? Time for
    (rainemak, 16:08:39)
  * <Jolla> open discussion.  (rainemak, 16:08:41)

* Status of Mind2 (10mins -- asked by CLMA31)  (rainemak, 16:33:07)
  * <Jolla> No news update, we'll update as we proceed. SoonTM.
    (rainemak, 16:33:09)
  * <CLMA31> I have not ordered Mind2, so I’m more like a messenger here
    (rainemak, 16:34:56)
  * <CLMA31> (I know I’m late). This comment summarises the situation
    (rainemak, 16:34:56)
  * <CLMA31> well: Community meeting on 18th June 2026 - #5 by fridlmue.
    (rainemak, 16:34:56)
  * <CLMA31> There are some members in community who has ordered Mind2
    (rainemak, 16:34:56)
  * <CLMA31> over 1 year ago without getting the device. There also
    (rainemak, 16:34:56)
  * <CLMA31> hasn’t been any software releases for existing owners (to
    my  (rainemak, 16:34:57)
  * <CLMA31> knowledge). To my knowledge, there hasn’t been any
    (rainemak, 16:35:01)
  * <CLMA31> information send to current owners and the ones who have
    (rainemak, 16:35:03)
  * <CLMA31> ordered the device, but not received it. It would be good
    to  (rainemak, 16:35:05)
  * <CLMA31> get Antti or someone from Venho team to clarify the
    (rainemak, 16:35:07)
  * <CLMA31> situation. There should be some kind of roadmap that
    sticks.  (rainemak, 16:35:09)
  * <Jolla> No news update, we'll update as we proceed. SoonTM.
    (rainemak, 16:35:11)
  * LINK:
    https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-18th-june-2026/29888/5
    (rainemak, 16:36:12)

* Jolla Mind2 delivery at Jolla Phone Day 1? (10mins -- asked by
  jojomen)  (rainemak, 16:45:48)
  * <jojomen> - Would it be possible to have the Jolla Mind2 delivered
    at  (rainemak, 16:45:48)
  * <jojomen> the meeting in Helsinki on July 8th?  (rainemak, 16:45:48)
  * <jojomen> - This is for those who have so far decided to hold off
    (rainemak, 16:45:48)
  * <jojomen> delivery, waiting for software maturity.  (rainemak,
    16:45:48)
  * <jojomen> - Given that the anniversary of the la(te)st release of
    (rainemak, 16:45:49)
  * <jojomen> Venho.ai will happen before the Jolla Phone Day, maybe
    it’s  (rainemak, 16:45:51)
  * <jojomen> better to get the device and put it to whatever use is
    (rainemak, 16:45:53)
  * <jojomen> enabled by Sailfish OS Core than to wait for Venho.ai to
    (rainemak, 16:45:55)
  * <jojomen> come out of pre-alpha.  (rainemak, 16:45:57)
  * <Jolla> Firstly, it's a Jolla Phone Day1 (note, without space in
    (rainemak, 16:46:01)
  * <Jolla> Day1). So, likely not going to happen that we have other
    (rainemak, 16:46:03)
  * <Jolla> products there as well.  (rainemak, 16:46:05)
  * <Jolla>  (rainemak, 16:46:07)
  * <Jolla> Regarding other questions see above answer.  (rainemak,
    16:46:09)

* Jolla phone day 1, 8.7.26 (5mins -- asked by CLMA31)  (rainemak,
  16:50:21)
  * <CLMA31> I’m again messenger only, but there has been quite a lot of
    (rainemak, 16:50:21)
  * <CLMA31> conversation regarding the launch event here in the forum.
    (rainemak, 16:50:21)
  * <CLMA31> Example
    https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/jolla-phone-day1-celebration-event-global-topic/28841/78
    (rainemak, 16:50:21)
  * <CLMA31> Could Jolla give somekind of information package regarding
    (rainemak, 16:50:21)
  * <CLMA31> the event? It is confirmed that it will be streamed. Where
    is  (rainemak, 16:50:23)
  * <CLMA31> event held? Around what time will it start and end etc.?
    (rainemak, 16:50:25)
  * <Jolla> Info package will come -- stay tuned and carry on.
    (rainemak, 16:50:44)
  * <Jolla> There will be a stream. We can all feel the excitement.
    (rainemak, 16:50:45)
  * <Jolla> Currently we are preparing it but nothing to announce yet.
    (rainemak, 16:50:45)
  * <Jolla> What we can say is that it won't be a morning even.
    (rainemak, 16:50:45)
  * <Jolla> Afternoon June 8. You can book your flights, accommodation,
    (rainemak, 16:50:45)
  * <Jolla> etc accordingly.  (rainemak, 16:50:45)

* Open Pull Requests (PRs) to discussion (5 mins -- asked by Jolla)
  (rainemak, 16:56:20)

* General discussion (15 mins)  (rainemak, 17:00:41)
  * LINK: https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/29751 - 5.1. Pispala finally
    out for all  (rainemak, 17:16:14)
  * LINK: https://forum.sailfishos.org/t//30094 <- like 7h ago
    (rainemak, 17:17:14)

* Next meeting time and date (2 mins)  (rainemak, 17:25:19)
  * Next meeting will be held on Thursday 2nd July 2026 at 04:00pm UTC:
    2026-07-02T1600Z  (rainemak, 17:27:34)

Meeting ended at 17:30:00 UTC.




Action Items
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* Community task board
* Jolla to update regarding recommended charging cables and chargers.




Action Items, by person
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* **UNASSIGNED**
  * Community task board
  * Jolla to update regarding recommended charging cables and chargers.




People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* rainemak (206)
* PublicNico (25)
* nephros_ (24)
* extechop[m] (18)
* Polatbirdal (13)
* jojomen (8)
* umayer[m] (6)
* direc85[m] (5)
* JacobLS (4)
* CLMA31[m] (4)
* duskull[m] (3)
* sailbot (2)
* mal (2)
* piggz[m] (2)
* Venty[m] (2)
* Morugan[m] (1)
* frankps (1)




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