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#sailfishos-meeting: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 16th July 2026
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Meeting started by rainemak at 16:00:26 UTC. The full logs are available
at
https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2026/sailfishos-meeting.2026-07-16-16.00.log.html
.



Meeting summary
---------------
* Meeting information and agenda can be found here:  (rainemak,
  16:00:26)
* LINK: https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/30378   (rainemak, 16:00:26)
* Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with #info
  (rainemak, 16:00:26)
  * Raine Mäkeläinen, Jolla  (rainemak, 16:00:28)
  * nephros, community  (nephros, 16:01:24)
  * Nico, community  (Nico, 16:02:30)
  * emva, community  (emva, 16:02:38)
  * polat  (Polatbirdal, 16:02:47)
  * Pami Ketolainen, Jolla  (Keto, 16:03:20)
  * jan, community  (blackei, 16:03:44)
  * CLMA31, community  (CLMA31[m], 16:05:25)

* Tracking of non-resolved Community Meeting topics  (rainemak,
  16:06:05)
  * ACTION: Community task board  (rainemak, 16:06:05)
  * LINK:
    https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-23rd-april-2026/29030/3
    (rainemak, 16:06:05)
  * ACTION: Jolla to update regarding recommended charging cables and
    chargers.  (rainemak, 16:06:05)
  * LINK:
    https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-7th-may-2026/29253/2
    (rainemak, 16:06:05)
  * No actions taken yet regarding community task board nor charger /
    cables.  (rainemak, 16:06:07)

* Development lang proliferation: Updated rust 1.85 & availbility of
  golang (10 mins -- b100dian)  (rainemak, 16:06:26)
  * <b100dian> I am sure that there are some apps that would soon
    require a  (rainemak, 16:06:26)
  * <b100dian> newer rust (would be nice if Wisperfish would make it to
    (rainemak, 16:06:26)
  * <b100dian> store, wouldn’t it?) and one of these is librespot, the
    (rainemak, 16:06:26)
  * <b100dian> spotify client. It has been a while since that stopped
    (rainemak, 16:06:26)
  * <b100dian> working and the new code requires a newer rust.
    (rainemak, 16:06:28)
  * <b100dian> In the same vein, there are other projects (such as
    netbird  (rainemak, 16:06:30)
  * <b100dian> wireguard networking) which are coded in go and they
    aren’t  (rainemak, 16:06:32)
  * <b100dian> easy to build on community OBS if golang is not
    available.  (rainemak, 16:06:34)
  * <b100dian> As someone who build dlang to be able to build a onedrive
    (rainemak, 16:06:36)
  * <b100dian> client, I do not think I would be able to do that with
    two  (rainemak, 16:06:38)
  * <b100dian> more languages + runtimes & devtools and do that in a
    (rainemak, 16:06:40)
  * <b100dian> sustainable way.  (rainemak, 16:06:42)
  * <b100dian> I hoped that 5.1 or 5.2 would bring at least the rust
    update  (rainemak, 16:06:44)
  * <b100dian> but there isn’t one…  (rainemak, 16:06:46)
  * <b100dian> Are there any plans to make these available?  (rainemak,
    16:06:48)
  * <Jolla> Some backporting needed for Gecko ESR115 when updating Rust
    but  (rainemak, 16:06:50)
  * <Jolla> should be doable. Along with Sailfish OS 5.2 we didn't have
    time  (rainemak, 16:06:54)
  * <Jolla> to update Rust. There are already good point that could
    justify  (rainemak, 16:06:56)
  * <Jolla> Rust upgrade like Whisperfish or librespot but let's see how
    far  (rainemak, 16:06:58)
  * <Jolla> it goes. Contributions welcome. Go we have in quite a good
    shape  (rainemak, 16:07:00)
  * <Jolla> already. Do we have direc85 or rubdos around to comment
    (rainemak, 16:07:02)
  * <Jolla> Whisperfish needs?  (rainemak, 16:07:04)

* Sailfish for Feature Phones (10 mins -- Sharks)  (rainemak, 16:15:13)
  * <Sharks> With the announcement of the Commodore Callback there is
    (rainemak, 16:15:13)
  * <Sharks> potentially a ‘new’ avenue for SFOS on feature phones. At
    (rainemak, 16:15:13)
  * <Sharks> Mobile World Congress 2018, Sailfish was shown on a feature
    (rainemak, 16:15:13)
  * <Sharks> phone, but we never heard any more about it until now.
    Given  (rainemak, 16:15:13)
  * <Sharks> the renewed interest, is it possible that we (the
    community)  (rainemak, 16:15:15)
  * <Sharks> may be able to port Sailfish to feature phones and use it
    (rainemak, 16:15:16)
  * <Sharks> successfully soon™? Eg. a Nokia 8000 port was attempted a
    few  (rainemak, 16:15:18)
  * <Sharks> years ago (New Nokia 8000 4G port - feature phone UI?) but
    was  (rainemak, 16:15:20)
  * <Sharks> not able to be completed due to missing software
    (rainemak, 16:15:24)
  * <Sharks> implementations for d-pad navigation, t9 typing etc.
    (rainemak, 16:15:26)
  * <Sharks> I appreciate this is a late topic and I apologise, it was
    just  (rainemak, 16:15:28)
  * <Sharks> a thought that occured to me today. Please hold onto it for
    the  (rainemak, 16:15:30)
  * <Sharks> next meeting if required.  (rainemak, 16:15:32)
  * <Sharks> As before I would love to attend the meeting but I am
    unable  (rainemak, 16:15:34)
  * <Sharks> due to it occurring at 2AM my time, but I hope this topic
    may  (rainemak, 16:15:36)
  * <Sharks> generate some discussion if there are any other parties
    curious  (rainemak, 16:15:38)
  * <Sharks> about what you can tell us regarding the Commodore
    (rainemak, 16:15:40)
  * <Sharks> implementation / collaboration.  (rainemak, 16:15:42)
  * LINK:
    https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/new-nokia-8000-4g-port-feature-phone-ui/19075
    (rainemak, 16:15:44)
  * <Jolla> Yes, intergrated platform features should eventually help
    with  (rainemak, 16:15:46)
  * <Jolla> feature phone porting as well.  (rainemak, 16:15:48)

* Suggested update to online User Guide (10mins -- asked by jojomen)
  (rainemak, 16:21:20)
  * <jojomen> This is more a heads-up than a question.  (rainemak,
    16:21:20)
  * <jojomen>  (rainemak, 16:21:20)
  * <jojomen> Some questions to the Jolla Phone  (rainemak, 16:21:20)
  * <jojomen> Quick start guide  (rainemak, 16:21:20)
  * <jojomen> The url to a user guide http://jolla.com/phone/userguide
    leads  (rainemak, 16:21:23)
  * <jojomen> to a SailFishOS general description
    https://sailfishos.org/design/ux-framework  (rainemak, 16:21:25)
  * <jojomen> Not like a quick guide how to start up first time,
    buttons,  (rainemak, 16:21:27)
  * <jojomen> install SIM, charging, etc..  (rainemak, 16:21:29)
  * <jojomen>  (rainemak, 16:21:31)
  * <jojomen> Adapted from post by @JacobLS here Jolla Phone Day1
    (rainemak, 16:21:33)
  * <jojomen> celebration event July 8 6pm at Narinkkatori! - practical
    info  (rainemak, 16:21:35)
  * <jojomen> & FAQ - #199 by JacobLS  (rainemak, 16:21:37)
  * <jojomen>  (rainemak, 16:21:39)
  * <jojomen> 1. The Home page screenshot there shows an app grid, not
    (rainemak, 16:21:41)
  * <jojomen>  covers for running apps. I’d suggest using a screenshot
    with  (rainemak, 16:21:43)
  * <jojomen>  OSM Scout, Calendar, Media Player and other apps
    showcasing  (rainemak, 16:21:45)
  * <jojomen>  Cover actions. Maybe include some well-known Android app
    just  (rainemak, 16:21:47)
  * <jojomen>  to hint at the possibility?  (rainemak, 16:21:49)
  * <jojomen> 2. Maybe the App Grid description should mention pinning
    the  (rainemak, 16:21:51)
  * <jojomen>  grid at less than full extension.  (rainemak, 16:21:55)
  * <jojomen> 3. Specifically for the JP2026, like Jacob noted in his
    post,  (rainemak, 16:21:57)
  * <jojomen>  should there be a card in the box about installing SIM,
    (rainemak, 16:21:59)
  * <jojomen>  charging and first boot?  (rainemak, 16:22:01)
  * LINK:
    https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/jolla-phone-day1-celebration-event-july-8-6pm-at-narinkkatori-practical-info-faq/30183/199
    (rainemak, 16:22:03)
  * <Jolla> Thank you for raising this.  (rainemak, 16:22:08)
  * <Jolla> 1. Known / noted issue  (rainemak, 16:22:10)
  * <Jolla> 2. Good addition and rather handy  (rainemak, 16:22:12)
  * <Jolla> 3. Thanks for asking, people have been using phones quite a
    (rainemak, 16:22:14)
  * <Jolla> while. Thus, we did not see a reason for this kind how-to.
    (rainemak, 16:22:16)

* Additional Ambiance controls (10mins -- asked by jojomen)  (rainemak,
  16:30:53)
  * <jojomen> Currently, Ambiances can only control various sounds and
    the  (rainemak, 16:30:53)
  * <jojomen> background image used. I use the Situations app to also
    e.g.  (rainemak, 16:30:53)
  * <jojomen> turn on Flightmode when I select my “Going to the Theatre”
    (rainemak, 16:30:54)
  * <jojomen> ambiance. This works, but is more convoluted than I’d
    like.  (rainemak, 16:30:56)
  * <jojomen>  (rainemak, 16:30:58)
  * <jojomen> Instead, I would like to add any combination of the
    toggles  (rainemak, 16:31:00)
  * <jojomen> that we can have in the top menu to an Ambiance. This
    would be  (rainemak, 16:31:02)
  * <jojomen> a logical extension to current functionality. (I’m not
    (rainemak, 16:31:04)
  * <jojomen> suggesting putting all the features of Situations in the
    (rainemak, 16:31:06)
  * <jojomen> Ambiance system, although I think closer integration would
    be  (rainemak, 16:31:08)
  * <jojomen> interesting.)  (rainemak, 16:31:10)
  * <jojomen>  (rainemak, 16:31:12)
  * <jojomen> Jolla, what do you think of such an extension to
    Ambiances?  (rainemak, 16:31:14)
  * <Jolla> We intentionally removed coupling to ringtones back in the
    days  (rainemak, 16:31:16)
  * <Jolla> after people got confused and didn't realize that ringtone
    (rainemak, 16:31:18)
  * <Jolla> changed. This is far trickier problem than you can imagine
    from  (rainemak, 16:31:20)
  * <Jolla> the first glimpse.  (rainemak, 16:31:24)

* The Privacy Switch in relation to Ambiances (15mins -- asked by
  jojomen)  (rainemak, 16:43:15)
  * <jojomen> There is currently a list of things the switch can
    control,  (rainemak, 16:43:15)
  * <jojomen> and we have an interesting discussion here The free
    (rainemak, 16:43:15)
  * <jojomen> association Privacy Toggle thread .  (rainemak, 16:43:15)
  * <jojomen>  (rainemak, 16:43:15)
  * <jojomen> I foresee a growing list of options in the settings for
    the  (rainemak, 16:43:17)
  * <jojomen> Privacy switch, and an ever-growing list of requests for
    (rainemak, 16:43:18)
  * <jojomen> options to add. The subset that makes it into the settings
    (rainemak, 16:43:20)
  * <jojomen> will always be limited and a bit arbitrary.  (rainemak,
    16:43:24)
  * <jojomen>  (rainemak, 16:43:26)
  * <jojomen> I think Ambiances provide a good foundation for the UI
    (rainemak, 16:43:28)
  * <jojomen> connected to the Privacy Switch, even more so with the
    (rainemak, 16:43:30)
  * <jojomen> extensions I discussed in the previous topic.  (rainemak,
    16:43:32)
  * <jojomen>  (rainemak, 16:43:34)
  * <jojomen> My suggestion would be to  (rainemak, 16:43:36)
  * <jojomen>  (rainemak, 16:43:38)
  * <jojomen> 1. Make new top-menu toggles for things that aren’t
    already  (rainemak, 16:43:40)
  * <jojomen>  (e.g. microphone?)  (rainemak, 16:43:42)
  * <jojomen> 2. Have a mode, where the Privacy switch is a shortcut for
    (rainemak, 16:43:44)
  * <jojomen>  any single top-menu toggle  (rainemak, 16:43:46)
  * <jojomen> 3. Have a mode, where the switch selects an Ambiance (and
    (rainemak, 16:43:48)
  * <jojomen>  returns to the previous ambience when the switch is
    (rainemak, 16:43:50)
  * <jojomen>  disengaged). Use the extended Ambiance system as UI to
    (rainemak, 16:43:54)
  * <jojomen>  control any combination of sounds and toggles. (In my
    example  (rainemak, 16:43:56)
  * <jojomen>  above: silent+flightmode.)  (rainemak, 16:43:58)
  * <jojomen> 4. Have a mode, where a selected app receives signals when
    (rainemak, 16:44:00)
  * <jojomen>  the switch changes. Or broadcast these changes always
    (rainemak, 16:44:02)
  * <jojomen>  to anyone who listens. (E.g. Situations integration of
    (rainemak, 16:44:04)
  * <jojomen>  the Privacy Switch.)  (rainemak, 16:44:06)
  * <jojomen>  (rainemak, 16:44:08)
  * <jojomen> This way, Settings | Ambiances would provide a unified UI
    for  (rainemak, 16:44:10)
  * <jojomen> the more complex cases, and the Settings | Privacy Switch
    (rainemak, 16:44:12)
  * <jojomen> would provide the UI for simple cases.  (rainemak,
    16:44:14)
  * <jojomen>  (rainemak, 16:44:16)
  * <jojomen> It also would play well with the ideas you shared during
    the  (rainemak, 16:44:18)
  * <jojomen> Day1 event, where TOH controls the phone’s various modes
    of  (rainemak, 16:44:20)
  * <jojomen> operation. Use the Ambiance system as the UI for composing
    the  (rainemak, 16:44:24)
  * <jojomen> settings that make up a mode of operation, and let users
    (rainemak, 16:44:26)
  * <jojomen> select the current mode by top menu, Privacy switch or
    TOH.  (rainemak, 16:44:28)
  * <jojomen>  (rainemak, 16:44:30)
  * <jojomen> edit: As a side note, I think Ambiances provide better
    (rainemak, 16:44:32)
  * <jojomen> feedback than any of the small indicators at the top of
    the  (rainemak, 16:44:34)
  * <jojomen> Home screen. A quick glance immediately tells me if I’m
    still  (rainemak, 16:44:36)
  * <jojomen> in “Going to the Theatre” mode or not.  (rainemak,
    16:44:38)
  * <jojomen>  (rainemak, 16:44:40)
  * <jojomen> Jolla, does this make sense to you? What would be the
    (rainemak, 16:44:42)
  * <jojomen> challenges with this ide?  (rainemak, 16:44:44)
  * LINK:
    https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/the-free-association-privacy-toggle-thread/30620
    (rainemak, 16:44:46)
  * <Jolla> Thank for your ideas. Some brings added complexity which is
    (rainemak, 16:44:48)
  * <Jolla> easily confusing. Let's have an open discussion on this and
    (rainemak, 16:44:50)
  * <Jolla> we'll note this to the action board.  (rainemak, 16:44:54)
  * ACTION: The Privacy Switch in relation to Ambiances  (rainemak,
    16:44:56)
  * LINK:
    https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-july-16-2026/30378/7
    (rainemak, 16:44:58)

* Guidance for Jolla Phone Roadshow location scouting (5mins -- asked by
  nephros)  (rainemak, 16:57:16)
  * <nephros> The latest Community News ( Sailfish Community News, July
    10,  (rainemak, 16:57:16)
  * <nephros> 2026 - Jolla Phone Day1) states that there are more events
    (rainemak, 16:57:16)
  * <nephros> like JollaPhoneDay1 planned, with a call to community to
    help  (rainemak, 16:57:16)
  * <nephros> with organizing them.  (rainemak, 16:57:16)
  * <nephros> Please specify briefly what the characteristics of such
    event  (rainemak, 16:57:17)
  * <nephros> locations should be. How many people should the venue
    hold,  (rainemak, 16:57:19)
  * <nephros> what are infrastructure requirements, do you want a local
    (rainemak, 16:57:21)
  * <nephros> event organizing firm or do you have your own, …
    (rainemak, 16:57:25)
  * <nephros>  (rainemak, 16:57:27)
  * <nephros> An approximate Budget for renting a venue would also be
    very  (rainemak, 16:57:29)
  * <nephros> helpful - understandable if we won’t get that info from
    (rainemak, 16:57:31)
  * <nephros> you :slight_smile:  (rainemak, 16:57:33)
  * LINK:
    https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/sailfish-community-news-july-10-2026-jolla-phone-day1/30490/33
    (rainemak, 16:57:35)
  * <Jolla> Thanks for asking. Did we said that that Jolla Phone Day1
    like  (rainemak, 16:57:38)
  * <Jolla> events? If so that is a mistake. Hmm, more like Jolla Phone
    (rainemak, 16:57:40)
  * <Jolla> roadshow not really launch party which happens to be the
    first  (rainemak, 16:57:42)
  * <Jolla> event. Events should be lighter than Day1 event otherwise it
    (rainemak, 16:57:44)
  * <Jolla> gets too heavy to organize. More like usual Community events
    (rainemak, 16:57:46)
  * <Jolla> with Jolla Phone roadshow twist. For example, no need for
    (rainemak, 16:57:48)
  * <Jolla> streaming, food can be self ordered, not necessarily need
    for  (rainemak, 16:57:50)
  * <Jolla> drink / snack tickets, etc. Something reachable where people
    can  (rainemak, 16:57:54)
  * <Jolla> easily join and discuss with each other and share ideas.
    (rainemak, 16:57:56)

* Is it possible to change the color selection after placing the order?
  (3mins -- asked by Polatbirdal)  (rainemak, 17:08:20)
  * <Polatbirdal> I chose the orange silicone case for my order, but
    I’ve  (rainemak, 17:08:20)
  * <Polatbirdal> changed my mind and would like to switch it to the
    black #info <Polatbirdal> one instead. Is that possible? I can’t
    find any option to  (rainemak, 17:08:20)
  * <Polatbirdal> change it on the website.  (rainemak, 17:08:20)
  * <Jolla> Yes, but not recommended and we may miss your question.
    Think  (rainemak, 17:08:21)
  * <Jolla> twice when selecting your colour.  (rainemak, 17:08:25)

* CAD model of TOHs (3min -- asked by Nico)  (rainemak, 17:17:05)
  * <Nico> While some measurements exist in the official documentation,
    it  (rainemak, 17:17:05)
  * <Nico> would be great to have a CAD model of the new other half (for
    3d  (rainemak, 17:17:05)
  * <Nico> printing and starting point for custom designs). Additionally
    a  (rainemak, 17:17:05)
  * <Nico> model of the phone backside with the pogo pins could be
    useful  (rainemak, 17:17:05)
  * <Nico> to model mating the pins properly. Could those be shared
    (rainemak, 17:17:07)
  * <Nico> somewhat soon, so that we can start having fun with that?
    (rainemak, 17:17:08)
  * <Jolla> Coming as well. Haven't had time yet but soon^TM.
    (rainemak, 17:17:10)
  * ACTION: Can Jolla provide both .step and .stl files for CAD models?
    (rainemak, 17:20:03)

* Open Pull Requests (PRs) to discussion (5 mins -- asked by Jolla)
  (rainemak, 17:22:34)

* General discussion (15 mins)  (rainemak, 17:24:06)

* Next meeting time and date (2 mins)  (rainemak, 17:37:28)
  * Next something (meeting / newsletter) will be held on Thursday 13th
    August 2026 at 04:00pm UTC: 2026-08-13T1600Z  (rainemak, 17:41:15)

Meeting ended at 17:43:12 UTC.




Action Items
------------
* Community task board
* Jolla to update regarding recommended charging cables and chargers.
* The Privacy Switch in relation to Ambiances
* Can Jolla provide both .step and .stl files for CAD models?




Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* **UNASSIGNED**
  * Community task board
  * Jolla to update regarding recommended charging cables and chargers.
  * The Privacy Switch in relation to Ambiances
  * Can Jolla provide both .step and .stl files for CAD models?




People Present (lines said)
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* rainemak (291)
* nephros (35)
* CLMA31[m] (25)
* Polatbirdal (18)
* Keto (12)
* Nico (4)
* sailbot (2)
* emva (1)
* blackei (1)




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