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#sailfishos-meeting: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 3rd September 2026
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Meeting started by rainemak at 16:00:19 UTC. The full logs are available
at
https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2026/sailfishos-meeting.2026-09-03-16.00.log.html
.



Meeting summary
---------------
* Meeting information and agenda can be found here:  (rainemak,
  16:00:19)
* LINK: https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/32224   (rainemak, 16:00:19)
* Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with #info
  (rainemak, 16:00:19)
  * Raine Mäkeläinen, Jolla  (rainemak, 16:00:21)
  * Ruben De Smet - rubdos - community  (rubdos[m], 16:00:43)
  * Julio Meroño (jmerono) - community  (jmerono, 16:01:06)
  * Andrew Branson - Jolla  (abr, 16:01:35)
  * Juhani Virtanen (renTTu) - community  (renTTu, 16:01:44)
  * CLMA31, community  (CLMA31[m], 16:02:17)
  * : Cryx - community  (Cryx[m], 16:02:22)
  * mal, Jolla  (mal, 16:02:38)
  * Anton Thomasson - community  (attah, 16:03:11)
  * Pami Ketolainen, Jolla  (Keto, 16:03:44)
  * Certina - community  (Certina, 16:05:31)

* Tracking of non-resolved Community Meeting topics  (rainemak,
  16:05:36)
  * ACTION: Community task board  (rainemak, 16:05:36)
  * LINK:
    https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-23rd-april-2026/29030/3
    (rainemak, 16:05:36)
  * ACTION: Jolla to update regarding recommended charging cables and
    chargers.  (rainemak, 16:05:36)
  * LINK:
    https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-7th-may-2026/29253/2
    (rainemak, 16:05:37)
  * ACTION: The Privacy Switch in relation to Ambiances  (rainemak,
    16:05:38)
  * LINK:
    https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-july-16-2026/30378/7
    (rainemak, 16:05:40)
  * No actions taken yet regarding community task board nor charger /
    cables.  (rainemak, 16:05:42)

* AppSupport on other community ports (particularly on the Xperia 1 and
  5 IV) (5 mins -- @jmerono)  (rainemak, 16:06:54)
  * <jmerono> Following what was mentioned in the previous community
    meeting  (rainemak, 16:06:55)
  * <jmerono> regarding the Xperia 10 IV and V, I wondered if there were
    any  (rainemak, 16:06:55)
  * <jmerono> plans to extend that to other well-supported ports (like
    on  (rainemak, 16:06:55)
  * <jmerono> @rinigus‘s Nagara ports). If so, I understand the team may
    be  (rainemak, 16:06:55)
  * <jmerono> busy with the JP2026 among other things, but may we have
    an  (rainemak, 16:06:58)
  * <jmerono> estimate of when we will have it?  (rainemak, 16:07:00)
  * <Jolla> Let us start with Xperia 10 IV and 10 V (surely jointly with
    (rainemak, 16:07:02)
  * <Jolla> Sharks and others). Once we have AppSupport working with 10
    IV  (rainemak, 16:07:04)
  * <Jolla> and 10 V we certainly know more. After reaching that target,
    we  (rainemak, 16:07:06)
  * <Jolla> have more solid ground to start planning how to expand or
    (rainemak, 16:07:08)
  * <Jolla> whether to expand.  (rainemak, 16:07:10)

* OBS dependencies in tooling/chroot (10 mins -- rubdos / Ruben De Smet)
  (rainemak, 16:17:08)
  * <rubdos> To build Whisperfish, we often require a version of Rust
    and  (rainemak, 16:17:08)
  * <rubdos> LLVM that leads the version provided by Jolla. I build and
    host  (rainemak, 16:17:08)
  * <rubdos> these packages on my home server, such that our CI system
    can  (rainemak, 16:17:08)
  * <rubdos> build them, and the resulting RPMs end up on OpenRepos. I’d
    (rainemak, 16:17:08)
  * <rubdos> like to offer Whisperfish on Chum, however. This means we’d
    (rainemak, 16:17:09)
  * <rubdos> need to compile Rust/LLVM on Chum, such that I can
    build-depend  (rainemak, 16:17:11)
  * <rubdos> on them. However, Rust builds through an sb2 shim, which
    means  (rainemak, 16:17:13)
  * <rubdos> that the actual rustc and cargo dependencies need to be
    (rainemak, 16:17:15)
  * <rubdos> available in the tooling and even in the chroot. See our
    (rainemak, 16:17:17)
  * <rubdos> Dockerfile for exact prereqs. As far as I understand, this
    is  (rainemak, 16:17:19)
  * <rubdos> not currently possible to specify in OBS. More context at
    Show  (rainemak, 16:17:21)
  * <rubdos> home:rubdos:whisperfish / Rust - SailfishOS Open Build
    Service  (rainemak, 16:17:23)
  * <rubdos> and Show home:rubdos:whisperfish / llvm - SailfishOS Open
    Build  (rainemak, 16:17:25)
  * <rubdos> Service. Would it be possible to get some help to get this
    (rainemak, 16:17:29)
  * <rubdos> going? I’m not entirely sure whether I can hack this in
    myself,  (rainemak, 16:17:31)
  * <rubdos> or whether I need Jolla’s or the community’s help on this.
    (rainemak, 16:17:33)
  * LINK:
    https://gitlab.com/whisperfish/sailo-rs/-/blob/master/Dockerfile.rust?ref_type=heads
    (rainemak, 16:17:35)
  * LINK:
    https://build.sailfishos.org/package/show/home:rubdos:whisperfish/Rust
    (rainemak, 16:17:37)
  * LINK:
    https://build.sailfishos.org/package/show/home:rubdos:whisperfish/llvm
    (rainemak, 16:17:39)
  * <Jolla> Thank you for asking. We do have Rust 1.95 and LLVM 20 PRs
    (rainemak, 16:17:41)
  * <Jolla> ready. That should help with Whisperfish development for
    some  (rainemak, 16:17:43)
  * <Jolla> time. There should be room to bump up Rust to 1.97.1 and
    LLVM to  (rainemak, 16:17:45)
  * <Jolla> 22.1.8. Surely, this does not solve generic OBS issue that
    you  (rainemak, 16:17:47)
  * <Jolla> are referring to. When we reach up-to-date Gecko ESR version
    (rainemak, 16:17:49)
  * <Jolla> that should also help us all to keep Rust and LLVM
    up-to-date as  (rainemak, 16:17:51)
  * <Jolla> well and serving better Whisperfish development needs.
    (rainemak, 16:17:53)

* Murray and Zambezi community ports - what are the next steps for
  AppSupport? (10mins -- asked by Sharks)  (rainemak, 16:30:58)
  * <Sharks> We are all very excited at the announcement from the
    previous  (rainemak, 16:30:58)
  * <Sharks> community meeting regarding Jolla’s confirmation that
    (rainemak, 16:30:58)
  * <Sharks> AppSupport for the community ports for Xperia 10IV and V is
    (rainemak, 16:30:59)
  * <Sharks> still on the cards. As the port maintainer, I would like to
    (rainemak, 16:31:01)
  * <Sharks> know what is required of me to ensure that AppSupport for
    this  (rainemak, 16:31:03)
  * <Sharks> port can be delivered to users as soon as possible. Initial
    (rainemak, 16:31:05)
  * <Sharks> testing from users shows the existing AppSupport binaries
    do  (rainemak, 16:31:07)
  * <Sharks> not work out of the box currently. Given we know community
    (rainemak, 16:31:09)
  * <Sharks> ports have been able to run AppSupport binaries in the past
    (rainemak, 16:31:11)
  * <Sharks> (see: Nagara) is this a port-specific problem (eg.
    something I  (rainemak, 16:31:13)
  * <Sharks> haven’t done right like kernel configs), or a Jolla-side
    (rainemak, 16:31:15)
  * <Sharks> problem (AppSupport binaries need updating to be compatible
    (rainemak, 16:31:17)
  * <Sharks> with Android 15 base)? Is there a preferred way to open a
    line  (rainemak, 16:31:19)
  * <Sharks> of dialogue on this topic between myself / any other
    willing  (rainemak, 16:31:21)
  * <Sharks> community developer(s) and Jolla so that we can work
    towards a  (rainemak, 16:31:23)
  * <Sharks> functioning solution? Noting that I live on the wrong side
    of  (rainemak, 16:31:25)
  * <Sharks> the world (GMT+10) and have a day job.  (rainemak,
    16:31:29)
  * <Jolla> Likely next steps for AppSupport is that we first adapt
    (rainemak, 16:31:31)
  * <Jolla> AppSupport 15 to Jolla C2. Let's see who do we have from
    Jolla  (rainemak, 16:31:33)
  * <Jolla> team to comment on more technical parts of this.  (rainemak,
    16:31:35)

* Official Xperia 10 IV/V Jolla Ports: Latest internal tests based on
  which blobs, how far from feature complete, can we help get it done?
  (5 mins -- asked by @yusssufff)  (rainemak, 16:39:40)
  * <yusssufff> I know that some community ports are being developped.
    (rainemak, 16:39:40)
  * <yusssufff> Nevertheless, I am personally very keep on offical
    ports,  (rainemak, 16:39:40)
  * <yusssufff> especially as I prefer to entrust @jolla for coding such
    (rainemak, 16:39:40)
  * <yusssufff> sensitive software.  (rainemak, 16:39:40)
  * <yusssufff> A company is a liability.  (rainemak, 16:39:42)
  * <yusssufff>  (rainemak, 16:39:44)
  * <yusssufff> Therefore I wished to know how far did went the latest
    tests  (rainemak, 16:39:46)
  * <yusssufff> @mal and @jolla did with the 10 V. About a year ago @mal
    (rainemak, 16:39:48)
  * <yusssufff> mentionned camera and audio finally working against
    ‘‘latest  (rainemak, 16:39:50)
  * <yusssufff> blobs’’, that fingerprint was to be skipped, and that
    VoLTE  (rainemak, 16:39:52)
  * <yusssufff> had new configs that came along with the new blobs and
    that  (rainemak, 16:39:54)
  * <yusssufff> it was now a hard nut to crack…  (rainemak, 16:39:58)
  * <yusssufff>  (rainemak, 16:40:00)
  * <yusssufff> I wish to know which ‘latest’ blobs specifically were
    used  (rainemak, 16:40:02)
  * <yusssufff> back then, and how much work is still missing (sure
    giving  (rainemak, 16:40:04)
  * <yusssufff> up on fingerprint, that’s a given) to get it all mostly
    set  (rainemak, 16:40:06)
  * <yusssufff> up (only volte left to work on?). Could community help
    crack  (rainemak, 16:40:08)
  * <yusssufff> this nut, if you share with us the exact piece of work
    still  (rainemak, 16:40:10)
  * <yusssufff> needed to be achieved?  (rainemak, 16:40:12)
  * <yusssufff> Would be so lovely to get the last push for that
    official  (rainemak, 16:40:14)
  * <yusssufff> Xperia port :blush:.  (rainemak, 16:40:16)
  * <Jolla> The official Jolla ports for 10 IV and 10 V were left pretty
    (rainemak, 16:40:18)
  * <Jolla> much to state we communicated earlier. If mal is around, he
    (rainemak, 16:40:20)
  * <Jolla> could comment more.  (rainemak, 16:40:22)

* Sound/microphone issue with audio/video recordings. (5 mins -- asked
  by Cryx)  (rainemak, 16:45:54)
  * <Cryx> sound in audio and video recordings is very bad, details get
    (rainemak, 16:45:54)
  * <Cryx> lost. This may be related to a possible noise cancellation
    (rainemak, 16:45:54)
  * <Cryx> process what is good for calls, but very bad for recordings
    with  (rainemak, 16:45:54)
  * <Cryx> camera or audiorecorder. See some more details in the linked
    (rainemak, 16:45:54)
  * <Cryx> thread below.  (rainemak, 16:45:55)
  * <Cryx>  (rainemak, 16:45:59)
  * <Cryx> What’s the reason for that, is there a possible solution that
    can  (rainemak, 16:46:01)
  * <Cryx> be implemented like disabeling noise cancellation (if that’s
    the  (rainemak, 16:46:03)
  * <Cryx> reason) for recordings, maybe even with a toggle in camera
    and  (rainemak, 16:46:05)
  * <Cryx> audiorecorder or their settings?  (rainemak, 16:46:07)
  * LINK:
    https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/very-bad-sound-in-recordings-from-jolla-phone-2026/32800
    (rainemak, 16:46:09)
  * <Jolla> Thank you for asking. Needs more investigation. Let's have
    open  (rainemak, 16:46:11)
  * <Jolla> discussion.  (rainemak, 16:46:13)

* The Jolla phone 2026 screen may not have a software problem. (10 mins
  -- asked by Polatbirdal)  (rainemak, 16:55:19)
  * <Polatbirdal> Hello, this issue was also discussed on August 20, but
    the  (rainemak, 16:55:19)
  * <Polatbirdal> exact cause still hadn’t been properly investigated.
    After  (rainemak, 16:55:19)
  * <Polatbirdal> that meeting, some people opened new threads, and we
    came  (rainemak, 16:55:19)
  * <Polatbirdal> across some interesting information.  (rainemak,
    16:55:19)
  * <Polatbirdal>  (rainemak, 16:55:21)
  * <Polatbirdal> Some people who bought the Jolla Phone 2026 were able
    to  (rainemak, 16:55:23)
  * <Polatbirdal> pass every screen color test without any issues at
    all.  (rainemak, 16:55:25)
  * <Polatbirdal> However, others experienced problems regardless of
    which  (rainemak, 16:55:29)
  * <Polatbirdal> color test they ran. Some described it as looking like
    a  (rainemak, 16:55:31)
  * <Polatbirdal> “Mexico filter,” while others saw a shadowy green tint
    (rainemak, 16:55:33)
  * <Polatbirdal> appearing over black areas, or shading near the very
    top  (rainemak, 16:55:35)
  * <Polatbirdal> of the screen with orange and red colors.  (rainemak,
    16:55:37)
  * <Polatbirdal>  (rainemak, 16:55:39)
  * <Polatbirdal> At first, before we had this kind of evidence, most
    people  (rainemak, 16:55:41)
  * <Polatbirdal> thought the issue was software-related. But now that
    some  (rainemak, 16:55:43)
  * <Polatbirdal> users experience it while others don’t experience it
    at  (rainemak, 16:55:45)
  * <Polatbirdal> all, it has made the issue even more interesting and
    (rainemak, 16:55:47)
  * <Polatbirdal> raised more questions.  (rainemak, 16:55:49)
  * <Polatbirdal>  (rainemak, 16:55:51)
  * <Polatbirdal> Has any further investigation been done on this? At
    this  (rainemak, 16:55:53)
  * <Polatbirdal> point, it doesn’t really seem like a software-related
    (rainemak, 16:55:55)
  * <Polatbirdal> issue anymore.  (rainemak, 16:55:59)
  * <Jolla> If there are hardware defects, those are covered by
    warranty.  (rainemak, 16:56:01)
  * <Jolla> Whether you have a hardware defect that is another story.
    (rainemak, 16:56:03)
  * LINK:
    https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/display-is-not-colour-managed-vendor-srgb-colour-mode-exists-but-sailfish-never-selects-it/31537
    (rainemak, 17:01:41)

* Camera Quality and resolution of new Jolla Phone (10 mins -- asked by
  Cryx)  (rainemak, 17:10:08)
  * <Cryx> The forum starts to discuss about the capabilities and
    problems  (rainemak, 17:10:08)
  * <Cryx> with the camera. One point is the resolution of pictures
    taken  (rainemak, 17:10:08)
  * <Cryx> with the native SFOS camera that just seems to use half of
    the  (rainemak, 17:10:08)
  * <Cryx> possible resolution compared to Advanced Camera or even
    Android  (rainemak, 17:10:08)
  * <Cryx> camera apps.  (rainemak, 17:10:09)
  * <Cryx>  (rainemak, 17:10:11)
  * <Cryx> SFOS has a max of 4096 with both back cameras, while Advanced
    (rainemak, 17:10:13)
  * <Cryx> Camera has a max 4096 and 8192 for the different back
    cameras.  (rainemak, 17:10:15)
  * <Cryx>  (rainemak, 17:10:17)
  * <Cryx> Front camera resoltion is a little bit more then double with
    (rainemak, 17:10:19)
  * <Cryx> Advanced camera compared to SFOS stock camera.  (rainemak,
    17:10:21)
  * <Cryx>  (rainemak, 17:10:23)
  * <Cryx> Also the max video resolution is 1440 in all apps - but as
    the  (rainemak, 17:10:25)
  * <Cryx> camera module is/was also used in Sony’s Xperia Range (if we
    got  (rainemak, 17:10:29)
  * <Cryx> that right) and capable of recording 4k videos even with an
    (rainemak, 17:10:31)
  * <Cryx> Xperia 10 III it should be possible to do 4k videos on the
    much  (rainemak, 17:10:33)
  * <Cryx> better hardware of the new Jolla Phone too.  (rainemak,
    17:10:35)
  * <Cryx>  (rainemak, 17:10:37)
  * <Cryx> Some dome concrete questions:  (rainemak, 17:10:39)
  * <Cryx>  (rainemak, 17:10:41)
  * <Cryx> - Why does the SFOS camera app not use the max resolution for
    the main (1.0) camera?  (rainemak, 17:10:43)
  * <Cryx> - Is the Jolla Phone capable to take 4K videos from the
    hardware  (rainemak, 17:10:46)
  * <Cryx>   side (especially camera modules and processor)? If yes,
    what  (rainemak, 17:10:48)
  * <Cryx>   must be done to enable this?  (rainemak, 17:10:50)
  * <Cryx> - We had filters on other devices (that were still in Xperia
    10  (rainemak, 17:10:52)
  * <Cryx>   III but not working) and now are completely missing on the
    new  (rainemak, 17:10:54)
  * <Cryx>   Jolla Phone. Are there plans to bring that feature back
    with a  (rainemak, 17:10:58)
  * <Cryx>   future update?  (rainemak, 17:11:00)
  * <Cryx> - Several people notice a fisheye effect especially with the
    (rainemak, 17:11:02)
  * <Cryx>   (0.5) camera in 4:3. Listening to some people this is
    caused by  (rainemak, 17:11:04)
  * <Cryx>   the picture processing. Is there a plan to improve that
    (maybe  (rainemak, 17:11:06)
  * <Cryx>   with Camera API 2 (if I’m right even the new Jolla Phone
    still  (rainemak, 17:11:08)
  * <Cryx>   uses API 1)?  (rainemak, 17:11:10)
  * <Jolla> Thank you asking. We opened Camera app wishlist on January
    and  (rainemak, 17:11:36)
  * <Jolla> Camera app itself has been open for quite some time already.
    (rainemak, 17:11:36)
  * <Jolla> Contributions welcome ;-).  (rainemak, 17:11:36)
  * LINK:
    https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/sailfish-camera-app-wishlist/24497
    (rainemak, 17:11:36)
  * <Jolla> In all seriousness, we all want to get improvements to
    Camera  (rainemak, 17:11:36)
  * <Jolla> app. Firstly, we need a fix for the max resolution. Further,
    (rainemak, 17:11:37)
  * <Jolla> we should have more selections for resolution setting. Also
    (rainemak, 17:11:39)
  * <Jolla> people tend to understand megapixels so there could be an
    easy  (rainemak, 17:11:41)
  * <Jolla> way to select image quality. Maybe nowadays selecting lower
    (rainemak, 17:11:43)
  * <Jolla> image quality due to storage usage is not that big of issue
    but  (rainemak, 17:11:45)
  * <Jolla> there can be other factors like capturing speed that needs
    to be  (rainemak, 17:11:47)
  * <Jolla> taken into account.  (rainemak, 17:11:49)

* Open Pull Requests (PRs) to discussion (5 mins -- asked by Jolla)
  (rainemak, 17:25:07)
  * LINK:
    https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/jolla-phone-camera-too-many-details-are-lost/32717/35?u=polatbirdal
    hedgecam vs default camera  (Polatbirdal, 17:27:25)

* General discussion (10 mins)  (rainemak, 17:31:11)
  * LINK:
    https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/jolla-phone-camera-too-many-details-are-lost/32717/35
    (rainemak, 17:31:39)

* Next meeting time and date (2 mins)  (rainemak, 17:48:06)
  * Next meeting will be held on Thursday 17th September 2026 at 04:00pm
    UTC: 2026-09-17T1600Z  (rainemak, 17:49:00)

Meeting ended at 17:49:28 UTC.




Action Items
------------
* Community task board
* Jolla to update regarding recommended charging cables and chargers.
* The Privacy Switch in relation to Ambiances




Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* **UNASSIGNED**
  * Community task board
  * Jolla to update regarding recommended charging cables and chargers.
  * The Privacy Switch in relation to Ambiances




People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* rainemak (246)
* rubdos[m] (48)
* Polatbirdal (31)
* mal (23)
* Cryx[m] (15)
* abr (13)
* CLMA31[m] (12)
* jmerono (6)
* sailbot (2)
* attah (2)
* renTTu (1)
* Keto (1)
* Certina (1)
* rubdos_ (1)




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