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#sailfishos-meeting: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- October 29, 2026
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Meeting started by rainemak at 17:00:09 UTC. The full logs are available
at
https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2026/sailfishos-meeting.2026-10-29-17.00.log.html
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Meeting summary
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* Meeting information and agenda can be found here:  (rainemak,
  17:00:10)
* LINK: https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/35051   (rainemak, 17:00:10)
* Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with #info
  (rainemak, 17:00:11)
  * Raine Mäkeläinen, Jolla  (rainemak, 17:00:13)
  * Otto Mäkelä, community  (extechop[m], 17:00:22)
  * Ville Nummela, community  (ViGe, 17:00:28)
  * Balázs Szulovszky, community  (usbee, 17:00:37)
  * yusssufff, community  (yusssufff, 17:00:50)
  * CLMA31, community  (CLMA31[m], 17:02:17)
  * poetaster community  (poetaster, 17:02:46)
  * mal, Jolla  (mal, 17:03:14)
  * zhasha, community  (zhasha, 17:03:22)

* Tracking of non-resolved Community Meeting topics  (rainemak,
  17:05:18)
  * ACTION: Community task board  (rainemak, 17:05:18)
  * LINK:
    https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-23rd-april-2026/29030/3
    (rainemak, 17:05:18)
  * ACTION: Jolla to update regarding recommended charging cables and
    chargers.  (rainemak, 17:05:18)
  * LINK:
    https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-7th-may-2026/29253/2
    (rainemak, 17:05:18)
  * ACTION: The Privacy Switch in relation to Ambiances  (rainemak,
    17:05:19)
  * LINK:
    https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-july-16-2026/30378/7
    (rainemak, 17:05:21)
  * No actions taken yet regarding community task board nor charger /
    cables.  (rainemak, 17:05:23)

* Let’s talk about PIM capabilities. (15 mins -- usbee)  (rainemak,
  17:06:38)
  * <usbee> It is a bit complex topic but I feel like they are heavily
    (rainemak, 17:06:38)
  * <usbee> connected and it is worth to discuss it as a whole package.
    (rainemak, 17:06:38)
  * <usbee> Supporting Oauth doesn’t work by most providers. As a result
    it is  (rainemak, 17:06:39)
  * <usbee> not possible to sync IMAP, CalDAV and CardDAV inside a
    singular  (rainemak, 17:06:40)
  * <usbee> account. So setting up Fastmail for example needs to be done
    3  (rainemak, 17:06:42)
  * <usbee> times as 3 separated entries. Also syncing notes and todos
    is not  (rainemak, 17:06:44)
  * <usbee> possible at all. Even so there is no ToDo app as part of
    Sailfish  (rainemak, 17:06:46)
  * <usbee> OS. There is a notes app but it only works as an offline
    local  (rainemak, 17:06:48)
  * <usbee> app. There should be an option besides generic IMAP and
    generic  (rainemak, 17:06:50)
  * <usbee> CalDAV/CardDAV accounts for generic Oauth accounts too. I do
    (rainemak, 17:06:52)
  * <usbee> believe that this set of features is essential on a phone to
    be  (rainemak, 17:06:54)
  * <usbee> able to use it as a PIM device so having a consideration and
    a  (rainemak, 17:06:56)
  * <usbee> timeline for it would already be a great thing.  (rainemak,
    17:06:58)
  * <Jolla> Thank you, let's have an open discussion.  (rainemak,
    17:07:00)

* Is it time to tell us about Jolla’s plans to update QT? (10 mins --
  PeegeeTips)  (rainemak, 17:20:54)
  * <PeegeeTips> The topic itself is not new; we all know that QT5.6 is
    (rainemak, 17:20:54)
  * <PeegeeTips> completely obsolete and that there are ‘reasons’ why
    Jolla  (rainemak, 17:20:54)
  * <PeegeeTips> hasn’t redeveloped components like silica using a
    current  (rainemak, 17:20:54)
  * <PeegeeTips> version of QT6. To a degree this didn’t matter as long
    as  (rainemak, 17:20:54)
  * <PeegeeTips> Jolla (and SailfishOS!) was on life support still eking
    out  (rainemak, 17:20:55)
  * <PeegeeTips> an occasional minor update on the aging Xperia 10
    hardware,  (rainemak, 17:20:57)
  * <PeegeeTips> but this is not where we are now... Right now, we’re
    all in the  (rainemak, 17:20:59)
  * <PeegeeTips> happy position of looking back at a successful launch
    of new  (rainemak, 17:21:01)
  * <PeegeeTips> Jolla hardware, so I am being forced to look forward to
    (rainemak, 17:21:03)
  * <PeegeeTips> consider what a healthy SailfishOS ecosystem look like?
    I  (rainemak, 17:21:05)
  * <PeegeeTips> don’t believe that looks like asking prospective app
    (rainemak, 17:21:07)
  * <PeegeeTips> developers in 2027 to get excited about using an
    obsolete GUI  (rainemak, 17:21:11)
  * <PeegeeTips> toolkit from eleven years ago. One that bears little
    relation  (rainemak, 17:21:13)
  * <PeegeeTips> to tooling used right now to create their desktop and
    desktop  (rainemak, 17:21:15)
  * <PeegeeTips> apps. So, what’s the plan? Update QT6 / Adopt GTK /
    Something  (rainemak, 17:21:17)
  * <PeegeeTips> else...  (rainemak, 17:21:19)
  * <Jolla> We update when we have something to update, sorry. Last time
    we  (rainemak, 17:21:21)
  * <Jolla> discussed about PWAs. I'd proposed that we would use this
    topic to  (rainemak, 17:21:23)
  * <Jolla> discuss about potential toolkits. What other toolkits would
    you  (rainemak, 17:21:25)
  * <Jolla> like to see?  (rainemak, 17:21:27)
  * LINK: https://github.com/mrcyjanek/flutter-sailfishos   (poetaster,
    17:29:35)

* Softening a specific Harbour restriction (10 mins  -- yusssufff)
  (rainemak, 17:34:51)
  * <yusssufff> Add a “call” class to classify streams. Until now only
    the  (rainemak, 17:34:51)
  * <yusssufff> game and player call are available: Specifically,
    currently  (rainemak, 17:34:51)
  * <yusssufff> libaudioresource only offers player and game. A call
    type in  (rainemak, 17:34:51)
  * <yusssufff> libaudioresource should help any store app doing voice
    or  (rainemak, 17:34:51)
  * <yusssufff> video calls.  (rainemak, 17:34:53)
  * <yusssufff>  (rainemak, 17:34:54)
  * <yusssufff> Devs are working on getting video calls to work with the
    (rainemak, 17:34:56)
  * <yusssufff> native telegram’s client Fernschreiber. There is a will
    to  (rainemak, 17:34:58)
  * <yusssufff> have the calls and video calls done in a
    Harbour-compatible  (rainemak, 17:35:00)
  * <yusssufff> way. They identified that to be published in Harbour,
    the  (rainemak, 17:35:02)
  * <yusssufff> “call” class should be available in libaudioresource.
    You can  (rainemak, 17:35:04)
  * <yusssufff> dig in here: Add Telegram voice & video calls (tgcalls +
    (rainemak, 17:35:06)
  * <yusssufff> tg_owt) by JimKnopfIoT · Pull Request #583 · Wunderfitz
    (rainemak, 17:35:10)
  * <yusssufff> /harbour-fernschreiber · GitHub  (rainemak, 17:35:12)
  * LINK:
    https://github.com/Wunderfitz/harbour-fernschreiber/pull/583#issuecomment-6254871945
    (rainemak, 17:35:14)
  * <Jolla> This is a rather broad topic. Raising a "call" class is not
    (rainemak, 17:35:16)
  * <Jolla> necessarily good way to approach this problem statement
    whilst  (rainemak, 17:35:18)
  * <Jolla> "call" policy could be one. We should instead talk about
    what's  (rainemak, 17:35:20)
  * <Jolla> missing from the Harbour so that it'd be more attractive for
    (rainemak, 17:35:22)
  * <Jolla> developer, users and at the same time it would be a trusted
    source  (rainemak, 17:35:24)
  * <Jolla> for app installation.  (rainemak, 17:35:26)
  * <Jolla>  (rainemak, 17:35:28)
  * <Jolla> Please also note that this kind of changes tend to take time
    (rainemak, 17:35:30)
  * <Jolla> whilst being important item.  (rainemak, 17:35:32)
  * ACTION: Jolla to check whether "call" or similar could be allowed in
    Harbour  (rainemak, 17:47:19)

* Getting the community work on the Xperia 10 V’s cameras merged in
  @Jolla ‘s build (5mins – yusssufff)  (rainemak, 17:48:29)
  * <yusssufff> Devs are working on getting Xperia 10 V Camera’s to work
    with  (rainemak, 17:48:29)
  * <yusssufff> the blobs version 4b. Most of the work actually doesnt
    imply  (rainemak, 17:48:29)
  * <yusssufff> messing with the binaries themselves (exept eventually
    for  (rainemak, 17:48:29)
  * <yusssufff> telephoto aka 0.6, but telephoto could be left on the
    side, as  (rainemak, 17:48:29)
  * <yusssufff> quite a non-essencial lense). Could @mal maybe have a
    look at  (rainemak, 17:48:31)
  * <yusssufff> incorporating that work into the official build? Even
    fast, as  (rainemak, 17:48:33)
  * <yusssufff> a quick hotfix for the 5.2 release? Having cameras now
    working  (rainemak, 17:48:35)
  * <yusssufff> on the 10 V would makes a huge instant change in
    usability,  (rainemak, 17:48:37)
  * <yusssufff> therefore the faster the better... Here is the link of
    the  (rainemak, 17:48:41)
  * <yusssufff> community work: [GUIDE] How to enable all cameras on
    Xperia 10V  (rainemak, 17:48:43)
  * LINK:
    https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/guide-how-to-enable-all-cameras-on-xperia-10-v/35267
    (rainemak, 17:48:45)
  * LINK:
    https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/xperia-10-v-zambezi-enabling-all-cameras-hardware-video-on-sailfish-os/35811
    (rainemak, 17:48:47)
  * <Jolla> At some point we could look it this. Meanwhile, you can
    certainly  (rainemak, 17:48:50)
  * <Jolla> contribute back. We are very much busy with Sailfish OS 5.3,
    Jolla  (rainemak, 17:48:52)
  * <Jolla> Phone and Commodore Callback.  (rainemak, 17:48:54)

* Xperia 10 V (5.1.0.11) – community fixes for SIM loss after boot, slow
  boot, mic and fingerprint (10mins – Parth007)  (rainemak, 17:56:42)
  * <Parth007> I’ve been debugging the Xperia 10 V on 5.1.0.11 and have
    (rainemak, 17:56:43)
  * <Parth007> working fixes, all in one package:  (rainemak, 17:56:43)
  * LINK:
    https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/guide-xperia-10-v-faster-boot-mic-sim-recovery-fingerprint/35340
    (rainemak, 17:56:43)
  * <Parth007>  (rainemak, 17:56:43)
  * <Parth007> 1. “No SIM card” after some boots: ofono crashes
    (SIGSEGV) ~60  (rainemak, 17:56:45)
  * <Parth007> s after boot during SIM setup, right after
    “session_read_info  (rainemak, 17:56:47)
  * <Parth007> not implemented”. The restarted ofono sends setRadioPower
    0  (rainemak, 17:56:49)
  * <Parth007> while the SIM is already active, so the modem powers the
    card  (rainemak, 17:56:51)
  * <Parth007> down (uim POWER_DOWN, card error 0x17). Restarting only
    the RIL  (rainemak, 17:56:53)
  * <Parth007> (vendor.qcrilNrd / qcrilNrd2) brings the SIM back; I use
    an  (rainemak, 17:56:55)
  * <Parth007> automatic watcher for that now. ofono also segfaults when
    (rainemak, 17:56:57)
  * <Parth007> simply restarted. Is this known, and can it be fixed in
    ofono /  (rainemak, 17:56:59)
  * <Parth007> ofono-binder?  (rainemak, 17:57:01)
  * <Parth007>  (rainemak, 17:57:03)
  * <Parth007> 2. Slow boot: bluebinder.service is Type=notify, so boot
    waits  (rainemak, 17:57:05)
  * <Parth007> for Bluetooth, and the BT HAL often fails chip init at
    boot.  (rainemak, 17:57:07)
  * <Parth007> Making bluebinder non-blocking cut a full reboot from
    4:02 to  (rainemak, 17:57:11)
  * <Parth007> 2:23. Could this go into the 10 V adaptation?  (rainemak,
    17:57:13)
  * <Parth007>  (rainemak, 17:57:15)
  * <Parth007> 3. Mic: primary_audio_policy_configuration.xml only
    allows 24  (rainemak, 17:57:17)
  * <Parth007> -bit for “primary input”. A 16-bit recording makes
    pulseaudio  (rainemak, 17:57:19)
  * <Parth007> -modules-droid loop until RLIMIT_RTTIME kills PulseAudio,
    (rainemak, 17:57:21)
  * <Parth007> giving quiet or broken recordings and no sound until
    reboot.  (rainemak, 17:57:23)
  * <Parth007> Adding a 16-bit profile (plus +12 dB gain) fixes it. Can
    this  (rainemak, 17:57:25)
  * <Parth007> be shipped?  (rainemak, 17:57:27)
  * <Parth007>  (rainemak, 17:57:29)
  * <Parth007> 4. Fingerprint: the open-source HAL fails (“SetDataPath
    failed  (rainemak, 17:57:31)
  * <Parth007> rc=1”) with the current egisap TA. Sony’s stock HAL plus
    a  (rainemak, 17:57:33)
  * <Parth007> small shim to the et51x driver works (enrol, unlock,
    survives  (rainemak, 17:57:35)
  * <Parth007> reboot). Is official fingerprint support planned for the
    10 V?  (rainemak, 17:57:37)
  * <Jolla> Thank you for your questions. Quite a technical set of
    questions.  (rainemak, 17:57:41)
  * <Jolla> Let's hope that we have somebody from Jolla for this. There
    looks  (rainemak, 17:57:43)
  * <Jolla> to be good pointers.  (rainemak, 17:57:45)

* Open Pull Requests (PRs) to discussion (5 mins -- asked by Jolla)
  (rainemak, 18:08:39)
  * LINK:
    https://github.com/sailfishos/sdk-harbour-rpmvalidator/pull/189
    (ViGe, 18:08:56)

* General discussion (10 mins)  (rainemak, 18:14:42)
  * LINK:
    https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/roadshow-community-meeting-stockholm-oct-22/34246
    (rainemak, 18:14:42)

* Next meeting time and date (2 mins)  (rainemak, 18:24:10)
  * Next meeting will be held on Thursday November 12, 2026 at 05:00pm
    UTC: 2026-11-12T1700Z  (rainemak, 18:26:07)

Meeting ended at 18:26:16 UTC.




Action Items
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* Community task board
* Jolla to update regarding recommended charging cables and chargers.
* The Privacy Switch in relation to Ambiances
* Jolla to check whether "call" or similar could be allowed in Harbour




Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* **UNASSIGNED**
  * Community task board
  * Jolla to update regarding recommended charging cables and chargers.
  * The Privacy Switch in relation to Ambiances
  * Jolla to check whether "call" or similar could be allowed in Harbour




People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* rainemak (192)
* usbee (40)
* poetaster (33)
* yusssufff (20)
* mal (19)
* CLMA31[m] (17)
* extechop[m] (6)
* ViGe (4)
* zhasha (4)
* Keto (3)
* sailbot (2)




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