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SageAard: Stskeeps: fixed bysybox in n950 repo by updating it to newer version07:05
Sagethere are couple of more things that fail one is syslinux in x86 adaptation which really needs fix as well07:05
Stskeepsyes, lbt had one for that07:06
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#8130 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/813007:07
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#8129 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/812907:08
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#8130 Accepted promotion request07:15
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#8129 Accepted promotion request07:24
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#8138 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/813808:24
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#8138 Accepted promotion request09:21
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chriadamsledges: btw, not sure if you've been keeping up with what's happening with the social adapters, but they've been merged into nemo-qml-plugins:master now10:31
chriadamsledges: incremental development taking place in there whenever I or Lucien finds the time10:32
chriadamalso, you mentioned that you're interested in QML development - if you have any questions please feel free to give me a yell any time :-)10:32
sledgeshi chriadam , I disconnected from your thread when I fell ill last week :{10:35
sledgesgood you got in touch with Lucien personally :)10:35
chriadamyep!  i hope you're feeling better now10:36
sledgesI am certainly interested in QMLling10:36
sledgesyes, 100% back on track10:36
chriadamgood to hear10:36
sledgesdid some PySide w/ QML on Harmattan recently10:36
sledgesLucien's Friends for N9 already has a rudimentary UI10:36
sledgesdon't know what is your vision of the end-version of it on Nemo10:37
chriadamyeah, I took a look on the maemo garage thread about it, i'm sure it'll shape up to be really nice :-)10:37
sledgesor where we should steer from "Friends for N9" origins10:37
sledgesah,ok will take a look there (a link pls?)10:37
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chriadamwell, at this point in time, I'm not really looking at developing an entire client, personally, but we'll have to see what happens I guess10:38
chriadamyep, one sec10:38
sledgesso logicaly Lucien should start rewriting his qfb by contributing its contents to nemo-qml-plugins, and eventually transitioning his Friends to that, too10:38
sledgesah, the tmo one, brilliant thanks10:40
chriadamif he wants to, certainly that'd make sense I think, to reduce duplication.  the one issue is, i'm not sure how completely my API is compared to his10:40
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chriadameg, at the moment, the social plugin doesn't support events or notifications or place/location objects.  they're the "big missing bits" at the moment, i think.10:41
sledgesok, so lots of merging would be welcomed10:42
chriadamunfortunately, since the structure of the social plugin is so different, it'll be less merging and more just rewriting anew to fit in with the social plugin structure :-/10:43
chriadambut yeah10:43
chriadamand group support too, was another thing.10:43
sledgesI'll tinker with the code available at hand, will see what's to be squeezed around10:43
sledgesas in Facebook groups?10:43
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chriadamsledges: yeah10:44
sledgeswell, I remember Lucien mentioning to just re-adjust his Graph qml/coo code-generator to match your layout :)10:44
chriadamnice, that'd be great10:44
sledges!seen Sfiet_konstantin10:45
Merbotsledges: Sfiet_konstantin was last seen in #nemomobile 1 week, 1 day, 10 hours, 35 minutes, and 4 seconds ago: <Sfiet_Konstantin> no prob :)10:45
sledgesI like his last message :D10:45
chriadamhe sent me an email yesterday, too10:45
sledgesah cool10:45
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#8139 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/813910:55
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Mric_ Sfiet_Konstantin, are you working on porting your qfb on nemo ?11:43
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#8141 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/814113:36
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sledgesSKonstantin_tab, I'll be looking at the code-at-hand of nemo-qml-plugins, qfb and it's qml13:47
sledges11:43 < Mric_>  Sfiet_Konstantin, are you working on porting your qfb on nemo ?13:47
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#8141 Accepted promotion request13:48
sledgestalked with chriadam|away this morning13:48
sledges(you can see the backlog)13:48
SKonstantin_tabI decided to merge effort and go upstream13:48
SKonstantin_tabDirectly to nemo plugins13:48
sledgeschriadam|away was very much hoping you will, but had concerns that qfb structure is different than that of plugins13:49
SKonstantin_tabI will adapt13:49
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#8142 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/814213:49
sledgeswell, could you push me in any QMLy direction to work on? ;)13:49
SKonstantin_tabBut will discuss with him abiut some changes in code I think13:49
sledgesI'd like to help working on the UI13:50
SKonstantin_tabsledges well I don't know either now13:50
sledgesyes, because UI is undecided. I think I'll look into Friends' QMl to start tinkering with13:50
SKonstantin_tabGive le a couple of weeks to get familiar with nemo code13:50
sledgesand then see what prototypes come out whilst using nemo-qml-plugins13:50
SKonstantin_tabYeah good idea13:50
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#8139 Accepted promotion request13:50
sledgesyou say that getting familiar with nemo-qml-plugins will take a coulpe of weeks? :)13:51
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SKonstantin_tabBecause the code is a bit different14:00
SKonstantin_tabI'm trying to do cleanup right now actually14:00
sledgess/le/me ;)14:00
sledgesI thought it was s/le/it :))14:01
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sledgesdoing zypper dup on N9, got this pulled in: libmeegotouch-l10n-en-0.30.6-1.16.Nemo.armv7hl.rpm14:41
sledgeswhere did it come from (between yesterday's `zypper dup` and now)? the changes were months ago: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/files?package=libmeegotouch&project=CE%3AMW%3AShared14:42
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phaeronsledges: new mer release caused mass rebuild14:46
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sledgesaha, nice14:47
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sledgesyowzer, I just realised I'm on mer_next nemo14:48
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sledgesis that ok to submit bugs against? :))14:48
sledges(already submitted two bugs! referencing this in the bug description, but it doesn't mention next anywhere: nemo-handset-armv7hl-n950-0.20130218.0.1.NEMO.2013-02-15 )14:49
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faenilsledges, 0.1 in the name is the "next" tag14:52
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sledgeswho could've thought, thanks a bunch faenil :)14:52
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faenilI read it yesterday on this channel :D14:53
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#8142 Accepted promotion request14:53
sledgesthen an ordinary joe would just pick the last one (mer-next) in this case when landing on: http://releases.nemomobile.org/snapshots/14:54
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#8144 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/814414:56
faenilsledges, yeah14:58
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sledgesfeeling better faenil ?15:02
faenilhead getting better, stomach getting worse :/15:02
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sledgeswell it all goes down to this apparently :)15:02
faenilwe also booked an all you can eat pizza dinner for today :(15:03
Aardfaenil: see it positive, if your stomach does not keep it's food you'll be able to eat a lot more :)15:04
sledgesgrrr :{ you can't imagine how I miss the "boscaiola" pizza from Italy times :)15:04
faenilsledges, eheheh :)15:04
faenilAard, I've already thought about that :P15:05
sledges(which can be easily read as boscaJolla :D )15:05
faenilsledges, ahahah15:05
faenilAard, in fact, I'm actually thinking about going :P15:05
Aardjust take a bucket with you15:05
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#8144 Accepted promotion request15:27
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sledgesthp hi, could you help me out on this one: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv8el&package=numptyphysics&project=home%3Asledge%3Abranches%3Ahome%3Acxl000%3Axbmc&repository=CE_MW_Shared_armv7hl15:43
thpsledges: add -lz to the libs15:46
thpsledges: which numptyphysics code are you using? github.com/harmattan/...?15:47
sledgesin makefile?15:47
thpsledges: yup15:47
thpsledges: line 20 in https://github.com/harmattan/numptyphysics/blob/master/makefile15:47
thpsledges: make it so that it reads LIBS += -lSDL_ttf -lz15:47
sledgesthe one from you :) https://build.pub.meego.com/package/files?package=numptyphysics&project=home%3Athp15:47
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thpsledges: modify the LIBS line as i said and (depending on how you package it) add zlib as build-dependency (in debian, that would be "zlib1g-dev")15:49
rcg"BuildRequires:  pkgconfig(zlib)"?15:49
sledgesdeps added in .spec15:49
rcg^ thp, what about that one15:49
sledgesalready (didn't work without those ;))15:49
thprcg: that should do the trick :)15:50
* sledges now onto attacking the makefile :)15:50
* sledges was pondering over generic writing: pkgconfig(dep) vs dep15:50
thpsledges: not sure if "Requires: zlib-devel" is needed (Requires: is a run-time dependency?)15:51
sledgesyeap, that one is redundant (was a remedy I tried first before whining here :))15:51
rcgsledges, just as a hint, when using .yaml files specify will give you lots of great hints for when to use which15:51
thpbut then again, i don't really have that much of a clue as far as RPM packaging is concerned15:51
sledgesyup, got a yaml for it, too. just haven't uploaded yet15:51
sledgeswill sync in the end15:52
rcgroger :)15:52
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thpsledges: so does that mean that we will have SDL for nemo mobile soon?15:52
rcgsledges, may be first try removing all zlib stuff and place only a single "BuildRequires:  pkgconfig(zlib)"15:53
rcgbefore messing with the makefile itself15:53
thprcg: he will still need to add -lz i guess, because that's what the linker complained about15:53
sledgesrcg, .spec initially contained only BR15:53
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sledgesand I wonder how that compiled fine in deb for freemantle, thp ;P15:53
rcg_usually_ adding that BR with pkgconfig should pull everything needed15:53
sledges*that makefile15:53
rcgthp, that's what i just wanna try.. usually pkgconfig also creates the required ld flags15:54
sledgesthp, I have found all SDL packages scattered around COBS (all either broken or unresolvable), and put them in one place and everything worked :D15:54
sledgesso give it a bit of cleanup (provided testing numptyphysics will work), we'll have SDL15:54
rcgpkg-config --libs zlib gives -lz15:55
sledgesok, rcg, roger that, understood you, trying now ;)15:55
thpbut the makefiles doesn't explicitly request zlib15:55
rcgthp, yeah, am not really sure..15:56
thpin that case, simply change line 14 to: PKGS = sdl SDL_image zlib15:56
thpi guess i'll add that to the upstream repo too15:57
thpjust in case15:57
rcgbut so far obs et al. are pretty clever in doing the right things15:57
rcgat least most of the time :)15:57
rcgsledges, it's just pkgconfig(zlib)15:58
rcgthe devel package will then be pulled automatically15:58
sledgesah nice15:59
rcgand for x11 it's just pkgconfig(x11)16:00
rcgno need for the libX11-devel then16:00
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thpsledges: if you get it working, it would be nice if you could contribute the .yaml and .spec files upstream :)16:01
sledgeswill sure do thp :)16:01
rcgsledges, ^16:01
sledgesok, it's building, thanks all16:05
rcgand pkgconfig(sdl) and pkgconfig(SDL_image) seems to be also available16:05
rcgyw :)16:05
sledges:) it's some intrinsic packaging knowledge that would leave me stranded if not you :)16:05
sledgesbut I think I missed some X deps (last build says unresolved XChangeProperty, XInternAtom)16:05
sledgespkgconfig(SDL) ;)16:05
rcgit's actually lower case16:06
rcgaccording to specify16:06
sledgeshmph :)) ok16:06
rcgthat's also where I got the other hints from ;D16:06
sledgeshm, or is it makefile that's choking again thp ? ;)16:06
sledges? :)16:06
rcgspecify is actually very great in pointing you into the right direction :)16:06
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sledgesrcg, where do you find SDL lowercase? https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=SDL.spec&package=SDL&project=home%3Asledge%3Abranches%3Ahome%3Acxl000%3Axbmc&rev=fe69e5400c9dfa0f46222e36680da32f16:11
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rcgsledges, it's pkg-config which finds it16:12
thpsledges: https://github.com/harmattan/numptyphysics/commit/a8e8c002662770cf17beade2ce817dc9deaf77f016:12
rcgobs seems to know which pkgconfig(foo) belongs to which package16:13
rcgthey don't even need to be named the same16:13
rcgso obs could even resolve pkgconfig(foo) to package bar if bar provides the pkgconfig for foo16:13
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rcgsledges, ^16:14
sledgesjeepers :))16:15
sledgesthp, thanks, I'm on the case :)16:15
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rcgsledges, do you have the .yaml as well?16:19
sledgesyes, I'm on it ;)16:19
rcgbecause imho it would be easier to modify the yaml and let specify create the spec16:19
rcgroger that :)16:19
rcgping me if you need some help16:19
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sledgesbut I honestly dislike OBS in that respect16:20
sledgesthat it doesn't have built-in specify ;)16:20
sledgesand I have to MerSDK enter, mod, specify, upload etc16:20
sledgesif it does, you'll be the revelation for me :D16:20
rcghmm.. don't you have osc and specify in your host os?16:20
* sledges never used osc, afraid of that beast like hell :D16:20
rcgi usually do my packaging from outside the sdk16:21
rcgsledges, so was i ;)16:21
* sledges remembers wiki.merproject osc articles, still having them in nightmares :))16:21
rcgStskeeps, convinced me to try osc and now i love it :)16:21
sledgesi use sdk only for specify16:21
rcgsledges, i installed it in my normal os once and it effectively boosted the whole packaging stuff a lot16:23
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sledgescan be, I probably did not arrive to an intense-multi-packaging state yet :)16:23
sledgesbut getting in there :)16:23
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rcg^ sledges, spectacle installation is actually straight forward16:28
sledgessomething tells me I tried this a year ago, and was very unsuccessful :))16:29
rcgprobably missed the "PREFIX=/" ;)16:29
sledgesso I stuck with SDK - good to give platform sdk a testrun or two anyways16:29
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rcgthat also trapped me on the first tries16:29
sledgesno, got lost among python deps16:30
sledgescan't remember which platform I tried to install it on to16:30
sledgescertainly not ubuntu (/me not an Ubunter :))16:30
sledgeswhich might have been part of the problem16:30
rcgaye ic :)16:31
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* sledges heart thumping as I launch numptyphysics from nemo pandaboard16:43
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sledgesIT WORKS \o/16:44
sledgeswonder if it's fullscreenable :)16:44
sledgesso, SDL looks good to go16:44
sledgesnow wonder how much cleanup it needs, if any16:44
rcggreat :)16:46
thpnice :)16:46
rcgthp, i saw that you put some work into the nemomobile music player16:47
rcgany screenshots or is the new version already in CE:Apps?16:47
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sledgesnow maliit keyboard doesn't show up on xterm anymore on mer_next Nemo (after zypper dup today/yesterday)16:53
sledgesshall I be filing bugs for mer_next nemo?16:53
Stskeepsxterm would never have maliit16:54
Stskeepsonly terminal16:54
sledgesmeego terminal16:54
sledges(it had desktop icon reading xterm on top ;P)16:54
thprcg: it's on github.com/nemomobile/qmlmusicplayer16:55
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sledgesmore problems with mer_next: wifi does not connect at start-up, and also reconnection via cp succeed only after several tries; usb cable needs to be re-plugged in order to start ssh'ing; (all after today's mer rebuild) I gues I just entered a minefield and should get out :)17:02
sledgeswhoa! I just did `iwconfig wlan0 power off` and Wi-Fi networks cp checkbox is now flicking on and of at its random will :))17:04
sledges(all on N9 here btw)17:04
rcgthp, aye17:06
rcgthp, btw, i saw on flickr that you eventually made it to the atomium :)17:06
rcgsledges, yay :)17:07
sledgesgood, SDL works on N9, too. Sage, is this SDL (and its nearby _image _net _gfx _mixer _ttf peers) clean enough, if you choose to accept it? :) (builds and works, SDL+_image+_ttf tested with numptyphysics on panda and n9): https://build.pub.meego.com/project/packages?project=home%3Asledge%3Abranches%3Ahome%3Acxl000%3Axbmc17:08
thprcg: yup, even though it was raining17:08
thpsledges: would also be good if you could test SDL with opengl es17:08
sledgesthp, numpty physics runs ligtning fast, don't know if any 2D accels are in effect17:09
thpe.g. this one here uses SDL + GLES 1.x - https://github.com/harmattan/brainparty17:09
sledgesor is it the _gfx bit?17:09
sledgesokedoke, I'll see what I can do to test this one17:10
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sledgesrcg, why it accepts pkgconfig(sdl) and pkgconfig(SDL_image) but curses on pkgconfig(SDL_ttf) ?17:24
thpsledges: SDL_ttf doesn't ship a pkg-config configuration file17:24
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sledgesok, thanks thp17:55
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sledgesgot .yaml and .spec thp , which upstream do you have in mind? (https://build.pub.meego.com/package/files?package=numptyphysics&project=home%3Asledge%3Abranches%3Ahome%3Acxl000%3Axbmc )17:59
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sledges(will adjust the tarball naming and patches a lil later, just wanted to ask which upstream you thought, github or obs)18:01
sledgeswould be nice if you tagged the github repo with new version :)18:02
w00tphaeron: https://build.pub.meego.com/request/show/8112 looks like it's stuck18:04
phaeronw00t: checking18:07
w00tthanks :)18:08
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the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#8112 Accepted promotion request18:12
w00tthp: your homescreen changes are in ;)18:12
sledges\o/ well done thp , the dreaded annoyee bits gone! :D18:13
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sledgesthp, brainparty is compiling, but I think it'll bump agains missing EGL packages18:22
* sledges driving off home now18:22
sledgesthanks for all your help fellows!18:23
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Sagesledges: those have quite a bit of cleaning in packaging. Extra pactches that are not applied, BuildRoot and %clean and extra build requirements etc.18:44
sledgesok, ghat ki.d of vacuuming, i'??ll see what i can tdo18:48
sledges(soz  typing from a car)18:52
the-bossphaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#8159 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/815918:56
thpw00t: thanks :)18:59
thpsledges: but there should be EGL libs on the device, right?18:59
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sledgesthp, yes but the existance of packages SDL_gles and your PKGS in the makefile continues to fuel my confusion19:28
sledgeshipefully it'll all 'just work' lol will see, just gotten back home19:28
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vgradeSDL, missed that19:41
vgradelibv was looking for someone to wire that up on A10 for quake demo19:42
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thpsledges: SDL_gles is only needed on fremantle, harmattan's SDL (and I guess what you use?) has these gles things built in20:20
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sledgesok the build ended up with GLES/gl.h: No such file or directory20:43
sledgesnow I wonder if there is a device-independent libGLES package20:43
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sledgesotherwise brainparty will become part of device adaptation :)20:44
sledges(e.g. for pandaboard, gl.h is provided by pvr-omap4)20:44
sledges(and so on)20:44
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