| *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Jaymzz | 07:54 | |
| *** Jaymzz changes topic to "Next meeting will be held on Thursday May 28th 2020 at 08:00 UTC. Topics can be created here: https://together.jolla.com/question/54157/sailfishos-open-source-collaboration-meeting-planning/" | 07:54 | |
| Jaymzz | #startmeeting Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration – May 28th 2020 | 08:00 |
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| sailbot_ | Meeting started Thu May 28 08:00:38 2020 UTC. The chair is Jaymzz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:00 |
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| *** sailbot_ changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration – May 28th 2020)" | 08:00 | |
| Jaymzz | #info Meeting information and agenda can be found here: https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2020-May/009206.html | 08:00 |
| Jaymzz | I am the meeting’s chairperson today, and will be doing my best to keep time and order. Please behave, respect the timings and be gentle. | 08:00 |
| Jaymzz | #topic Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with # info | 08:01 |
| *** sailbot_ changes topic to "Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with # info (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration – May 28th 2020)" | 08:01 | |
| Jaymzz | #info James Noori - sailor @ Jolla | 08:01 |
| Jaymzz | No topic for today except for general discussion, so I don't expect many attendees :) | 08:01 |
| nobodyinperson | #info nobodyinperson - community | 08:01 |
| ViGe | #info Ville Nummela - sailor@Jolla | 08:01 |
| flypig | #info David Llewellyn-Jones - sailor @ jolla | 08:02 |
| Jaymzz | oka couple more would be nice XD | 08:04 |
| Jaymzz | okay* | 08:04 |
| flypig | Quiet today. | 08:04 |
| nobodyinperson | yes... :-) | 08:04 |
| Jaymzz | yeah, despite a reminder email | 08:04 |
| piggz | #info piggz communit proter | 08:04 |
| piggz | s/porter | 08:05 |
| nobodyinperson | Here we have an i | 08:05 |
| nobodyinperson | *important one :-) | 08:05 |
| Jaymzz | indeed | 08:05 |
| piggz | huh | 08:05 |
| dcaliste | #info Damien Caliste, community | 08:06 |
| Jaymzz | piggz: we were just discussing that it is quiet today, then a porter shows up (you) which makes you a rather important one ;) | 08:06 |
| diodesign | #info Chris Williams - community | 08:06 |
| piggz | heh .... i dont think i have anything to add, just here cos im available :) | 08:06 |
| Jaymzz | Yeah no worries on that :) we may not have much to talk about today anyhow | 08:07 |
| Jaymzz | I'm changing the topic | 08:07 |
| flypig | Plus we have the press here today :) | 08:07 |
| Jaymzz | #topic general discussion (30 min) | 08:07 |
| *** sailbot_ changes topic to "general discussion (30 min) (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration – May 28th 2020)" | 08:07 | |
| nobodyinperson | I suppose there are no news concerning the PinePhone? (I know, same old story...) | 08:08 |
| nobodyinperson | The UBPorts community edition is just about to ship :-) | 08:09 |
| piggz | nobodyinperson: well, our community edition can make calls | 08:09 |
| flypig | piggz, it looked like you had some progress with fingerprints? | 08:09 |
| Nico[m] | Short meeting today, I see :D | 08:09 |
| piggz | flypig: maybe a little | 08:10 |
| Nico[m] | #info Nico, community | 08:10 |
| Jaymzz | Nico[m]: Yeah, welcome :) | 08:10 |
| Jaymzz | nobodyinperson: No official news on that front | 08:10 |
| flypig | piggz, did you get enrolment to work? | 08:10 |
| Nico[m] | Sometimes it gets hard to keep track of when friday is these days :3 | 08:10 |
| nobodyinperson | piggz: Ah cool. I'm really looking forward to putting SailfishOS on mine :-) | 08:11 |
| piggz | flypig: i did | 08:11 |
| piggz | and identify | 08:11 |
| Nico[m] | Should I wait for an official Sailfish edition PinePhone, or should I just buy the UBPorts version? :3 | 08:11 |
| flypig | What else is needed? That sounds like everything? | 08:11 |
| piggz | flypig: i need to implement the proper dbus api .... thats today .... i hope today it will properly work with the volla | 08:12 |
| flypig | Sounds amazing. Nice work. | 08:12 |
| nobodyinperson | Nico[m]: I'd buy one. The hardware will be widely compatible, I suggest. | 08:12 |
| piggz | becuase i dont know the api, im relying on dbus-monitor output, and running "strings" on the jolla binary :D | 08:12 |
| Nico[m] | nobodyinperson: Well, I was hoping an official one would support the sailfish devs too, but you're probably right :3 | 08:13 |
| flypig | Haha. That sounds challenging :) | 08:13 |
| rinigus | piggz: can we ask for api docs? | 08:13 |
| nobodyinperson | Nico[m]: Ah right. | 08:13 |
| piggz | Nico[m]: yeah, that would be nice, but weve not had any talks about an official version | 08:14 |
| rinigus | or was that asked already and reply was ... "we have to discuss it internally" | 08:14 |
| piggz | rinigus: i guess we can ask ? | 08:14 |
| piggz | rinigus: given the usual responses i get....... :D | 08:14 |
| flypig | piggz, there should be introspection on the dbus api. | 08:14 |
| piggz | flypig: i think i have enough of the api to enroll/identify and signal state, but not the strings needed for the state | 08:15 |
| Nico[m] | piggz: So.... I'll just buy 2 then? ;p | 08:15 |
| piggz | they all start FPSTATE_, so strings may help | 08:15 |
| flypig | Ah, I see. | 08:15 |
| nobodyinperson | piggz: I guess a SailfishOS community edition has to involve Jolla, right? | 08:15 |
| rinigus | piggz: but the other device you tried before volla was also qualcomm? and failed as for me so far? | 08:15 |
| flypig | Could we provide those strings Jaymzz, ViGe? | 08:16 |
| piggz | rinigus: yes ..... i wasnt sure if it was the software, or that fact that my pro1 exploded into parts when it fell out of my cycling jacket pocket!!!!! | 08:16 |
| rinigus | piggz: I hope you managed to reassemble it back... | 08:17 |
| Nico[m] | Nice, a puzzle phone | 08:17 |
| nobodyinperson | Nico[m]: xD | 08:17 |
| piggz | rinigus: yes, only the buttons are not great anymore, and i have a new screen to fit .... becuase afte the inital repair, i dropped it again!!! | 08:17 |
| ViGe | flypig: we could, but given how these things usually go, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for them | 08:18 |
| piggz | ViGe: and i want an implementation by today!! ;) | 08:18 |
| piggz | it was hard work getting it all together yesterday, my head was exploding | 08:18 |
| piggz | flypig: in the video, were you able to make out the show in the background audio? | 08:20 |
| rinigus | piggz: have you figured out how to forget a fingerprint? | 08:20 |
| flypig | piggz, let me have another listen. It's verrrrry quiet. | 08:20 |
| piggz | rinigus: yes, there is a clear button on the test app | 08:20 |
| piggz | rinigus: i had to implement that becuae i went to make the video, but ran out of space to store a FP!! | 08:21 |
| flypig | Is that data? | 08:21 |
| flypig | And #1? | 08:21 |
| piggz | yep | 08:21 |
| piggz | re-watching from season 1 :D | 08:21 |
| piggz | rinigus: seems it can store 5 finger prints here | 08:22 |
| flypig | Haha :) How does identification work in TNG? I think it's all voice + four letter high security codes to set the ship to self destruct. No fingerprints. | 08:22 |
| piggz | flypig: needs first officer to agree to self destruct | 08:23 |
| flypig | 2FA then. | 08:23 |
| flypig | I'd better add this for clarity: https://twitter.com/adampigg/status/1265752397604937729 | 08:27 |
| piggz | as ive never used an official device with FP support, can you bypass the FP and use a code, assuming i dont implement the api correctly first time? | 08:27 |
| Nico[m] | piggz: If you mess up the FP a few times, it will ask you for the code or you can even enter the code directly, iirc | 08:28 |
| Jaymzz | piggz: that should not be a problem | 08:28 |
| piggz | thats fine then | 08:28 |
| Nico[m] | Yeah, it just shows you the code prompt, where you can actually enter the FP, even though it isn't hinted | 08:29 |
| Jaymzz | Alright guys, if there's nothing more, I think we should move on :) | 08:30 |
| Nico[m] | Well, I don't want to repeat the same questions every meeting, I'll ask them in the next one again ;p | 08:31 |
| Jaymzz | #topic next meeting time and date (5 min) | 08:31 |
| *** sailbot_ changes topic to "next meeting time and date (5 min) (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration – May 28th 2020)" | 08:31 | |
| Jaymzz | Nico[m]: Feel fre to create a topic ;) | 08:31 |
| Jaymzz | #info Next meeting will be held on June 11th 2020 at 08:00 UTC | 08:31 |
| Nico[m] | Nah, it's just the same question for the forum and stuffs, doesn't make sense to have a topic for that :3 | 08:32 |
| Jaymzz | Nico[m]: ah ok, yeah let's see how the progress has been until next time | 08:32 |
| Nico[m] | :D | 08:32 |
| Jaymzz | Ending the meeting :) | 08:33 |
| Nico[m] | Anyway, thanks for the meeting goes back to do his job | 08:33 |
| Jaymzz | Nico[m]: Thank you | 08:33 |
| flypig | Thanks Jaymzz. | 08:33 |
| Jaymzz | And thanks everyone for attending! Talk to you in 2 weeks | 08:33 |
| Jaymzz | #endmeeting | 08:33 |
| sailbot_ | Meeting ended Thu May 28 08:33:32 2020 UTC. | 08:33 |
| sailbot_ | Minutes: https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2020/sailfishos-meeting.2020-05-28-08.00.html | 08:33 |
| sailbot_ | Minutes (text): https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2020/sailfishos-meeting.2020-05-28-08.00.txt | 08:33 |
| sailbot_ | Log: https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2020/sailfishos-meeting.2020-05-28-08.00.log.html | 08:33 |
| *** sailbot_ changes topic to "Next meeting will be held on Thursday May 28th 2020 at 08:00 UTC. Topics can be created here: https://together.jolla.com/question/54157/sailfishos-open-source-collaboration-meeting-planning/" | 08:33 | |
| diodesign | thanks for the insight into the community :) | 08:33 |
| piggz | thanks Jaymzz | 08:33 |
| Jaymzz | cheers | 08:33 |
| *** Jaymzz changes topic to "Next meeting will be held on Thursday June 11th 2020 at 08:00 UTC. Topics can be created here: https://together.jolla.com/question/54157/sailfishos-open-source-collaboration-meeting-planning/" | 08:34 | |
| piggz | diodesign: well its a but of a quiet one today, not the best insight | 08:34 |
| flypig | Yes, it's a shame we didn't have more joining us. | 08:36 |
| flypig | Thanks for stopping by diodesign! | 08:36 |
| piggz | or asking all the tough questions, like, "when qill qt update come?" :D | 08:37 |
| diodesign | it's all cool; I see flypig tweet about the meetings so I thought i'd look in | 08:37 |
| diodesign | I'll check in next time, too | 08:39 |
| flypig | diodesign, you're based in SF now? | 08:39 |
| diodesign | yeah, interesting place to be | 08:39 |
| flypig | I visited once for the RSA conference. It's a great place. | 08:40 |
| Nico[m] | Well, when will we get qt6 though? I think that is a valid question, since qt6 will be out in less than a year! ;p | 08:41 |
| diodesign | just even the thought of being around that many people made me physically shudder for a second. how times change. RSA is pretty intense; I hope you got to see more of the city around it. that part of town is... weird | 08:41 |
| flypig | I wasn't there for long, and you're right that the conference is its own world. But I got to do some of the touristy things too. Boat, trolley, walking all over the city. that kind of thing. I didn't go too far though, sadly. | 08:43 |
| flypig | You must have to cover the conference though? | 08:45 |
| diodesign | trolley and boat is good :) the downtown part of SF around the Moscone center where RSA is held is not really representative of the whole city | 08:46 |
| diodesign | flypig: yeah, it usually takes 2-3 of us to do it | 08:46 |
| diodesign | I was looking forward to making it out to Black Hat and DEF CON this year but that was dashed | 08:48 |
| flypig | I've never been, but Black Hat sounds amazing. I'm sorry you won't get to go, but there will still be a virtual event at least. | 08:49 |
| diodesign | i'm just happy to be safe and gainfully employed right now | 08:54 |
| flypig | Yes same here. Well let me just say, it's been wonderful following your career seeing you get the success you deserve. I hope you don't mind me saying. | 08:55 |
| flypig | Back to coding for me now :) | 08:55 |
| diodesign | aw thanks, and yeah, it's nearly 2am so I should log off too - take care, cya again hopefully | 08:56 |
| bionade24 | Nico[m]: We first need to know what they'll do with licensing. The issue with QtWayland remains. | 10:58 |
| Nico[m] | Damn ._. | 11:03 |
| piggz | rinigus: any joy? | 21:12 |
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