| *** pasik_ is now known as pasik | 07:32 | |
| remote__ | morning | 07:54 |
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| ggabriel | o/ remote__ | 07:55 |
| louisdk | morning :) | 07:55 |
| Mister_Magister | morning! | 07:57 |
| Mister_Magister | haven't been on meeting in quite while | 07:57 |
| flypig | Good morning :) | 07:59 |
| piggz | gm | 08:00 |
| Jaymzz | Morning! Starting in a moment | 08:00 |
| Jaymzz | #startmeeting Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration – June 25th 2020 | 08:00 |
| sailbot_ | Meeting started Thu Jun 25 08:00:52 2020 UTC. The chair is Jaymzz. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:00 |
| sailbot_ | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. | 08:00 |
| *** sailbot_ changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration – June 25th 2020)" | 08:00 | |
| Jaymzz | #info Meeting information and agenda can be found here: https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2020-June/009213.html | 08:01 |
| Jaymzz | I am the meeting’s chairperson today, and will be doing my best to keep time and order. Please behave, respect the timings and be gentle. | 08:01 |
| Jaymzz | #topic Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with # info | 08:01 |
| *** sailbot_ changes topic to "Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with # info (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration – June 25th 2020)" | 08:01 | |
| Jaymzz | #info James Noori - sailor @ Jolla | 08:01 |
| ggabriel | #info Gabriel - community | 08:01 |
| piggz | #info Adam Pigg - Community porter/dev | 08:01 |
| louisdk | #info Louis - community | 08:01 |
| lbt | #info David Greaves - sailor and Mer guy | 08:01 |
| remote__ | #info remote - community | 08:01 |
| abranson | #info Andrew Branson - sailor | 08:01 |
| ViGe | #info Ville Nummela - sailor@Jolla | 08:01 |
| Sefriol | #info Joakim - Community / dev | 08:02 |
| flypig | #info David Llewellyn-Jones - sailor@jolla | 08:02 |
| Mister_Magister | #info Mister_Magister - community | 08:02 |
| dcaliste | #info Damien Caliste, community | 08:03 |
| Jaymzz | #topic Decouple LUKS password from PIN code (by remote – 5 min) | 08:06 |
| *** sailbot_ changes topic to "Decouple LUKS password from PIN code (by remote – 5 min) (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration – June 25th 2020)" | 08:06 | |
| Jaymzz | by remote__ * | 08:06 |
| Jaymzz | #info currently LUKS password is the same as PIN code for unlock (numeric). It is very easy to crack it offline. We need an option to have a separate full-keyboard option for LUKS encryption password. | 08:06 |
| Jaymzz | #info Alphanumeric keyboard for device lock is in our plans, but we don't have clear schedule to share as of yet. | 08:06 |
| Jaymzz | Answer ^^ | 08:06 |
| remote__ | ok | 08:07 |
| Jaymzz | move on? :) | 08:07 |
| remote__ | right | 08:07 |
| flypig | I'm curious to know about the threat model here. | 08:07 |
| remote__ | offline cracking when somebody has your phone for a couple of minutes | 08:07 |
| Mister_Magister | if package is opensource changing numbers to letters shouldn't be too hard? | 08:07 |
| flypig | Someone would have to remove the memory though, right? | 08:07 |
| Jaymzz | you have 4 minutes to discuss it :) | 08:07 |
| remote__ | boot into recovery, dump 2mb of luks headers | 08:07 |
| remote__ | crack it in minutes | 08:08 |
| flypig | Ah, okay, it's the recovery that's the vector. | 08:08 |
| remote__ | on gpu[s] | 08:08 |
| remote__ | Also, main question is to decouple passwords | 08:08 |
| ggabriel | well, allowing alphanumeric isn't the same as decoupling | 08:08 |
| remote__ | even with alpha-num keyboard nobody would want to enter it every time the phone is locked | 08:09 |
| ggabriel | but equally, you can have a complex password and unlock with fingerprint | 08:09 |
| ggabriel | so it depends on how precious is your data I guess | 08:09 |
| remote__ | so it should be decoupled | 08:09 |
| Mister_Magister | if you have fnigerprint | 08:09 |
| flypig | How would decoupling help? | 08:09 |
| piggz | ^^even on ported devices these days :D | 08:09 |
| flypig | If the numeric unlocks the password, without an enclave. | 08:09 |
| ggabriel | Mister_Magister: it is pretty common these days - I don't use it, but then my cat pictures aren't so important | 08:09 |
| remote__ | enter very strong pw on boot, easier PIN - on every unlock | 08:10 |
| ggabriel | I agree that remote__ was referring to that ^^ | 08:10 |
| Thaodan | #info Thaodan Community | 08:10 |
| ggabriel | it's probably not a bad idea to have a "master" password and a "lock" (easier) password | 08:10 |
| Jaymzz | 1 minute on this then we have to move on as the schedule is tight today | 08:10 |
| flypig | Okay, it all fits into place from my point of view now, I understand better the request :) Thanks. | 08:11 |
| Jaymzz | Moving on :) | 08:12 |
| Sefriol | Maybe add a clarification to the topic? i.e. strong pw on bootup Jaymzz | 08:12 |
| Sefriol | or something | 08:12 |
| Jaymzz | Sefriol: Need to move it as the schedule is tight. Adding more sentences will create more discussion at this moment. Will see what I can do a bit later in the meeting | 08:13 |
| Jaymzz | #topic Implement a hook for wrong PIN code (panic PIN) (5 min by remote) | 08:13 |
| *** sailbot_ changes topic to "Implement a hook for wrong PIN code (panic PIN) (5 min by remote) (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration – June 25th 2020)" | 08:13 | |
| Jaymzz | #info create a hook for a wrong PIN code, so it checks e.g. /etc/panic-pin for the wrong PIN and if it matches, execs the script in that file, that could for example zero out 4096 sectors (luks header) of /dev/mapper/sailfish-home. For advanced users. | 08:13 |
| Jaymzz | #info This isn't something we have immediate plans for, but the component handling the actual unlocking is systemd-cryptsetup, which is open source. Our systemd packaging is here: https://git.sailfishos.org/mer-core/systemd/. We think it would be possible for an interested community dev to create something that does this. | 08:13 |
| Jaymzz | #link https://git.sailfishos.org/mer-core/systemd/ | 08:14 |
| Jaymzz | Answer ^^ | 08:14 |
| Mister_Magister | possibly systemd has some hooks | 08:14 |
| remote__ | thanks. I'll take a look into that | 08:15 |
| flypig | Personally, this would be a neat feature to hvae. | 08:15 |
| Mister_Magister | think we can move on | 08:16 |
| remote__ | yep | 08:16 |
| Mister_Magister | james lagged out :D | 08:17 |
| ggabriel | again? :D | 08:17 |
| Sefriol | Damn these third world countries that do not have proper internet | 08:17 |
| Thaodan | Did you talk about Germany? xD | 08:18 |
| Jaymzz1 | Do you read me? | 08:18 |
| Mister_Magister | aye we do | 08:18 |
| Jaymzz1 | My internet has covid. It dies all the time :( | 08:18 |
| ggabriel | we have to assign some time for Jaymzz1 to reconnect ;) | 08:18 |
| Jaymzz1 | ggabriel: yep :( | 08:19 |
| Jaymzz1 | Not sure if the bot will read me now | 08:19 |
| Jaymzz1 | anyway where are we in the discussion? | 08:19 |
| Mister_Magister | next topic | 08:19 |
| Jaymzz1 | ok let's see if the bot reads me | 08:19 |
| Jaymzz1 | #topic I/O Errors on working XA2 (by LouisDK – 5 min) | 08:19 |
| Jaymzz1 | nope | 08:19 |
| Jaymzz1 | damn | 08:19 |
| Sefriol | Since Jaymmz internet has covid, it must be 5G | 08:19 |
| ggabriel | Jaymzz1: change your nick? | 08:20 |
| Jaymzz1 | ggabriel: sec | 08:20 |
| Jaymzz | now | 08:21 |
| Jaymzz | YES | 08:21 |
| Mister_Magister | nice | 08:21 |
| Jaymzz | #topic I/O Errors on working XA2 (by LouisDK – 5 min) | 08:21 |
| *** sailbot_ changes topic to "I/O Errors on working XA2 (by LouisDK – 5 min) (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration – June 25th 2020)" | 08:21 | |
| Jaymzz | #info I recently did a file system check on my XA2 with Sailfish 3.3.0.16 and got I/O errors. Fearing that my hardware was broken I reached out to Jolla Care which confirmed the same result on their XA2 running 3.3.0.16. Is this expected behavior due to the encrypted filesystem? TJC ticket: | 08:21 |
| Jaymzz | #link https://together.jolla.com/question/227495/xa2-bug-io-error-doing-file-system-check-on-working-device/ | 08:22 |
| Jaymzz | I haven't been able to secure an answer for this one yet. So if available sailors have anything to say on this, please go ahead. ' | 08:22 |
| Jaymzz | If we don't get to a conclusion, I'd bring this up again during the next meeting louisdk | 08:23 |
| louisdk | Jaymzz: Cool | 08:23 |
| flypig | Nothing to contribute from me I'm afraid. | 08:25 |
| Jaymzz1 | damn :( | 08:25 |
| Mister_Magister | ohnu | 08:26 |
| piggz | maybe of interest? https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-centos-rhel-fedora-debian-fsck-ext3-on-luks-volume/ | 08:26 |
| louisdk | piggz: Thanks will read the link later. Let's move on :) | 08:27 |
| Thaodan | Shouldn't the recovery unlock the partion before? | 08:27 |
| Jaymzz | I'm back. Will change my ISP soon. This is unbearable. | 08:29 |
| Jaymzz | Anyway, sorry about that, where are we? | 08:29 |
| louisdk | Thaodan: good question. | 08:29 |
| Mister_Magister | Jaymzz: next question i believe | 08:29 |
| Jaymzz | louisdk: should I move on? | 08:29 |
| piggz | the other thing, if the errors were on rpmb partition, that is an early boot parition, not a user partition | 08:29 |
| louisdk | Jaymzz: Sure. | 08:30 |
| Jaymzz | alright | 08:30 |
| Jaymzz | #topic Official Fxtec Pro 1 port (by LouisDK – 5 min) | 08:30 |
| *** sailbot_ changes topic to "Official Fxtec Pro 1 port (by LouisDK – 5 min) (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration – June 25th 2020)" | 08:30 | |
| Jaymzz | #info There's a pretty stable port of SailfishOS for the Fxtec Pro 1. Due to the hardware adaption the alien dalvik from the XA2 should run on this device. Are there any current plans for making an official port for this device? | 08:31 |
| Mister_Magister | Hey i actually added same topic but about asus 5z just to mock this one :D | 08:31 |
| Jaymzz | #info We are very interested in all projects using Sailfish OS. We are also very eager to support these projects if there is an opportunity to do so. Nevertheless, we do not have an official plan to provide the port for FxTec Pro at this point. | 08:31 |
| piggz | (staying ouf of this one :D ) | 08:31 |
| Mister_Magister | piggz: we're pretty biased :D | 08:32 |
| louisdk | Jaymzz: alright. | 08:32 |
| Mister_Magister | Jaymzz: feel free to remove my topic aswell cause answer gonna be same :D | 08:32 |
| Mister_Magister | jolla won't pick up random community ports :P | 08:32 |
| piggz | Jaymzz: as a different tactic, would there be a possibility of users purchasing an AD license....maybe without support at a reduced cost? | 08:32 |
| Jaymzz | Mister_Magister: your topic isn't gonna be here because you were too late with it ;) | 08:32 |
| piggz | thats basically what people are asking for | 08:33 |
| remote__ | I suppose Jolla doesn't want to officially support community ports because of the burden to continue that support. Makes sense. | 08:33 |
| Jaymzz | piggz: for Fxtec? | 08:33 |
| Mister_Magister | Jaymzz: i'm aware just saying don't leave it for next meeting | 08:33 |
| Jaymzz | Mister_Magister: ok | 08:33 |
| piggz | Jaymzz: yes, or generally, if the porter is able to make it work | 08:33 |
| rinigus | stepping in here as a porter... I'd like to acknowledge the work of Jolla's personnel in helping with the ports. thanks for it! | 08:33 |
| Thaodan | maybe their could some kind of sfos license without any support from jolla for a cheap price | 08:33 |
| Mister_Magister | we've talked about it and last time Jaymzz said it's not possible due licenses etc | 08:33 |
| Mister_Magister | but ye many ports would benefit (including mine) | 08:34 |
| Thaodan | Just for the label basicly | 08:34 |
| Jaymzz | piggz: I believe that we are looking into that still. What I know, since it varies from device to device, it makes it difficult and time consuming to maintain over time. But let's see what the future brings on that front. I wouldn't hold my breath just yet. | 08:34 |
| rinigus | its better if people would actually write apps instead of trying to get android back on the phone. the same one they removed before | 08:34 |
| rinigus | in this respect, ported devices are fine already | 08:35 |
| piggz | rinigus: true | 08:35 |
| Jaymzz | rinigus: Sometimes that is not a possibility. for example banking apps in different countries etc. | 08:35 |
| Mister_Magister | Jaymzz: basically if jolla just sold xa2 ad porters would adapt it to ports so porters would have to support it not jolla | 08:35 |
| rinigus | its actually cheaper (in terms of developer time as well), to get a simple android device for banking apps | 08:35 |
| rinigus | Jaymzz: ^ | 08:35 |
| piggz | rinigus: maybe a cut down version of AD that only runs whatsapp would suit most people :D | 08:36 |
| Jaymzz | Mister_Magister: That is way more complicated than what you seem to think it is :D | 08:36 |
| Mister_Magister | Jaymzz: licenses etc? | 08:36 |
| Mister_Magister | it's not like it's first time that topic is here | 08:36 |
| abranson | not just that. support is complex too. | 08:36 |
| Jaymzz | rinigus: Valid argument, but many people don't want to have an extra device with them. It adds to it being inconvenient | 08:36 |
| remote__ | old skool user here: why do people love bank apps on the phone... don't they have a site for it? | 08:36 |
| Jaymzz | Mister_Magister: not just licenses. liability among other things | 08:37 |
| Mister_Magister | remote__: some banks now proceed to remove websites cause keeping both website and mobile app is just too expensive so not like you have a choice | 08:37 |
| rinigus | remote__: its not even an app, but login into the bank | 08:37 |
| remote__ | that's a very bad tendency. you should talk to the bank | 08:37 |
| louisdk | Jaymzz: I think we're getting oft here. Should we move on? | 08:37 |
| Mister_Magister | Jaymzz: yeah yeah i don't think answer will change in next 5 years so we should search still for opensource solution | 08:37 |
| Jaymzz | remote__: As an example, in Sweden, digital identification is becoming ever so popular and for that you need either iOS or Android if you wanna have it on the phone. It makes your life way easier and that's what people want. | 08:38 |
| Mister_Magister | remote__: not my bank but that's the future | 08:38 |
| remote__ | not the future I want to live in... let's move on | 08:38 |
| Jaymzz | louisdk: True, yes. | 08:38 |
| Jaymzz | #topic Jolla and public communication (by LouisDK – 20 min) | 08:38 |
| *** sailbot_ changes topic to "Jolla and public communication (by LouisDK – 20 min) (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration – June 25th 2020)" | 08:38 | |
| Jaymzz | #info Lately Jolla have been quite sparse regarding their public communication. This might make some people nervous about the future of the OS and might keep someone from being interested in and developing apps for the platform. Would Jolla consider keeping the community more updated (eg. by making more blog posts about OS development and insights)? | 08:38 |
| Jaymzz | #info We love this suggestion, and we'd love to write more blog posts, but usually if there are no posts it's because we're hard at work creating new designs, code, functionality and business. But the request is noted and we'll get as much out there as we can. | 08:38 |
| * Mister_Magister tries not to scream at jolla designers | 08:39 | |
| louisdk | Jaymzz: alright. I wanted to point out not to forget the community nor social media so the platform still feels active and alive for outsiders and fans :) | 08:40 |
| dcaliste | About community contributions in that respect, already following git.sailfishos.org and writing a weekly digest of the commits would give an idea of what is happening. | 08:40 |
| dcaliste | I planned to do this once, but give up due to the work required by writing the diggest every week. | 08:41 |
| flypig | Interesting idea, but yes, not effort-free. | 08:41 |
| Jaymzz | louisdk: Noted :) Community won't be forgotten, absolutely not! | 08:41 |
| louisdk | Jaymzz: Cool. I got my answer. Anyone have something else to add about this topic? | 08:42 |
| Mister_Magister | Community is the powerhouse of the jolla | 08:42 |
| * ggabriel thought that jolla was affected by covid like everybody else, hence the silence | 08:42 | |
| flypig | louisdk, nice question. It's a very good point to make. | 08:43 |
| Mister_Magister | ggabriel: jolla is mostly remote guys if i'm not wrong | 08:43 |
| Jaymzz | ggabriel: we are a bit less affected in that front. Workflow still goes on | 08:43 |
| * ggabriel is not going to indirectly suggest scapegoats any more ;) | 08:43 | |
| Jaymzz | alright moving it | 08:43 |
| Jaymzz | #topic general discussion (15 min) | 08:44 |
| *** sailbot_ changes topic to "general discussion (15 min) (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration – June 25th 2020)" | 08:44 | |
| Sefriol | Speaking of communication: Dev Forum? | 08:44 |
| Mister_Magister | piggz: u wanted to move some topic | 08:44 |
| Jaymzz | Sefriol: Almost there | 08:44 |
| piggz | Jaymzz: a questions from a user.... | 08:44 |
| piggz | Are there any plans for system wide RTL support? | 08:44 |
| remote__ | I'd like to get back to my question about panic-pin. | 08:45 |
| Jaymzz | piggz: Unfortunately I don't have an answer to that. If any other sailor knows anything on this please chime in | 08:46 |
| abranson | Mister_Magister: there are a lot of sailors working remotely, but still a minority. of course during the lockdowns that became everyone, but it was probably easier than most places because Jolla were already very online-focused. | 08:46 |
| Mister_Magister | abranson: hecc how big is jolla anyways,wasn't it 20-something people? | 08:47 |
| flypig | piggz, sorry, I'm sure it should be obvious, but what do you mean by RTL? Right-to-left text? Real-time-something? Ride the Lobster (a unicycle race, apparently)? | 08:47 |
| piggz | flypig: i guess right to left text | 08:47 |
| Mister_Magister | Ride the lobster ofc | 08:47 |
| abranson | Mister_Magister: more than that. less than fifteen thousand though. | 08:48 |
| Mister_Magister | abranson: xd | 08:48 |
| Mister_Magister | abranson: when will jolla start earning moni | 08:48 |
| Sefriol | If you hired everybody laid off by Nokia, you could get into those numbers | 08:49 |
| abranson | rtl = radio luxembourg | 08:49 |
| Mister_Magister | when i googled rtl i found tv | 08:49 |
| piggz | abranson: thats up there with atlantic 252 | 08:49 |
| abranson | long wave! | 08:50 |
| flypig | System-wide radio Luxembourg would be a great feature. | 08:50 |
| flypig | Sadly I don't know the answer to the text direction question. | 08:50 |
| abranson | i'm embarrassed we don't already have it after so long | 08:50 |
| piggz | abranson: yes, seems like it should be in by default | 08:51 |
| ggabriel | I guess it depends on the customer base needing it, same with japanese input | 08:51 |
| abranson | i bet the rtl is a qt thing? | 08:51 |
| Mister_Magister | it's sad that sfos doesn't have japanese input by default | 08:51 |
| ggabriel | Mister_Magister: making the keyboard is not an easy thing I guess | 08:51 |
| abranson | hebrew is rtl i think. arabic also? | 08:51 |
| Mister_Magister | ggabriel: heckyeah it is | 08:51 |
| Mister_Magister | community did it, jolla can aswell | 08:52 |
| Sefriol | something something resources | 08:52 |
| piggz | abranson: you should be embarassed, it was supported in symbian qml components! | 08:52 |
| Mister_Magister | Sefriol: something something sure | 08:52 |
| abranson | piggz: radio luxembourg? | 08:53 |
| piggz | https://doc.qt.io/archives/qtquick-components-symbian-1.1/qt-components-right-to-left.html | 08:53 |
| flypig | It opens up lots of tricky design questions. | 08:53 |
| ggabriel | +extra testing | 08:53 |
| abranson | especially when there's no supported language that needs it. | 08:54 |
| ggabriel | although the competition doesn't test non US English so much anyway | 08:54 |
| flypig | ggabriel, yes. It might be technically straightforward, but to actually support it as a first-class feature, that's very hard I think. | 08:54 |
| * Mister_Magister laughing too hard at system-wide radio luxemburg | 08:54 | |
| piggz | speaking of radio, i see someone released a decent shoutcast app | 08:55 |
| abranson | stop it, i've got bright red | 08:55 |
| Jaymzz | 3 min on this :) | 08:57 |
| Mister_Magister | Jaymzz: how's your work at jolla you seem extremely busy | 08:57 |
| Mister_Magister | well like every sailor except for mal | 08:58 |
| abranson | mal's the busiest! he practically never stops | 08:58 |
| Mister_Magister | abranson: but he is also always on irc | 08:58 |
| flypig | abranson, I was thinking the same. | 08:59 |
| Mister_Magister | is sledges even working still? haven't seen him in ages | 08:59 |
| Jaymzz | Mister_Magister: My work or in general? I'm not particularly busy compared to many. I am working less hours than before tho :) | 08:59 |
| Mister_Magister | aye i remember | 08:59 |
| * Mister_Magister curses jolla recruiters | 09:00 | |
| Mister_Magister | volte when lol | 09:00 |
| Mister_Magister | Jaymzz: will contact u after meeting | 09:01 |
| Jaymzz | Mister_Magister: you ask this as the time is up ;) | 09:01 |
| Jaymzz | ok do so | 09:01 |
| Jaymzz | moving on | 09:01 |
| Mister_Magister | Jaymzz: just feeling time | 09:01 |
| * Mister_Magister filling* | 09:01 | |
| Jaymzz | #topic next meeting time and date (5 min) | 09:01 |
| *** sailbot_ changes topic to "next meeting time and date (5 min) (Meeting topic: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration – June 25th 2020)" | 09:01 | |
| Mister_Magister | +1 | 09:01 |
| Jaymzz | #info Next meeting will be held on July 9th 2020 at 08:00 UTC | 09:02 |
| Jaymzz | Alright people, ending the meeting. Thanks all for attending and for your discussions! much appreciated :) | 09:02 |
| ggabriel | thanks Jaymzz | 09:02 |
| ggabriel | good luck with your internet ;) | 09:02 |
| Jaymzz | ggabriel: I'm definitely changing ISP | 09:02 |
| Jaymzz | #endmeeting | 09:03 |
| sailbot_ | Meeting ended Thu Jun 25 09:03:01 2020 UTC. | 09:03 |
| sailbot_ | Minutes: https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2020/sailfishos-meeting.2020-06-25-08.00.html | 09:03 |
| sailbot_ | Minutes (text): https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2020/sailfishos-meeting.2020-06-25-08.00.txt | 09:03 |
| sailbot_ | Log: https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2020/sailfishos-meeting.2020-06-25-08.00.log.html | 09:03 |
| *** sailbot_ changes topic to "Next meeting will be held on Thursday June 25th 2020 at 08:00 UTC. Topics can be created here: https://together.jolla.com/question/54157/sailfishos-open-source-collaboration-meeting-planning/" | 09:03 | |
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| *** Jaymzz changes topic to "Next meeting will be held on Thursday July 9th 2020 at 08:00 UTC. Topics can be created here: https://together.jolla.com/question/54157/sailfishos-open-source-collaboration-meeting-planning/" | 09:12 | |
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