Thursday, 2023-06-08

Crabstermorning06:53
ViGemorning06:53
flypigMorning!06:54
ViGe#startmeeting Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 8th June 202307:00
sailbotMeeting started Thu Jun  8 07:00:03 2023 UTC. The chair is ViGe. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.07:00
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ViGe#info Meeting information and agenda can be found here:07:00
ViGe#link https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-irc-8th-june-2023/1573207:00
ViGeI am the meeting's chairperson today, and will be doing my best to keep time and order. Please respect the timings and bee-hive.07:00
ViGe#topic Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with #info07:00
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ViGe#info Ville Nummela - sailor@Jolla - chairperson today07:00
rainemak#info Raine Mäkeläinen - sailor@Jolla07:01
Crabster#info Crabster - lurker07:01
flypig#info David Llewellyn-Jones - community07:02
sebix[m]#info sebix - community07:03
pherjung[m]#info pherjung - community07:03
pherjung[m]Good morning!07:03
ViGe2-4 - community wins this round. Although I'm quite sure I saw jpwalden joining as well...07:04
jpwalden#info JP Walden - sailor@Jolla07:04
ViGe3-4 it is :)07:04
ViGe#topic When we can expect a new version of SFOS? (5 min -- asked by Valorsoguerriero97)07:05
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ViGe#info <Valorsoguerriero97> Just curious about the upcoming new System version07:05
ViGe#info <Jolla> We still have few key items for the next major release under development. Thus, we do not have release date set to the stone for it.07:05
ViGe#info <Jolla> That said, we are targeting 2nd half of the year.07:05
ViGe#info <Jolla> Before that we might do a minor release from 4.5.0 – to be seen how feasible that would be.07:05
flypigLooking forward to the next release.07:07
flypigAre there any feature pre-announcements (or hints from the repos)?07:10
ViGe#topic Keyboard on I4133 XPERIA 10 (5 min -- asked by Valorsoguerriero97)07:10
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ViGe#info <Valorsoguerriero97> I've already sent this topic some time ago, can we have a setting to customize haptics feedback?07:10
ViGe#info <Valorsoguerriero97> On i4113 it's like too quiet, hardly feeling it.07:10
ViGefor this we have a slightly longer answer:07:10
ExTechOp#info Otto Mäkelä, community07:10
ViGe#info <Jolla> Default vibrator plugin configuration file is in /usr/share/ngfd/plugins.d/50-droid-vibrator.ini07:10
ViGe#info <Jolla> To modify the different events for the adaptation, add new file to sparse/usr/share/ngfd/plugins.d/60-droid-vibrator.ini with header [droid-vibrator] and re-define the events found in the default file to your liking.07:10
ViGe#info <Jolla> For example, touch_weak event is used for keyboard effects, so to change the feedback strength one could have 60-droid-vibrator.ini with following contents:07:10
ViGe#info <Jolla> [droid-vibrator]07:10
ViGe#info <Jolla> touch_weak = on=2507:10
ViGe#info <Jolla> Which would define the touch_weak event to last for 25 milliseconds.07:11
ViGe#info <Jolla> After changing the values issue systemctl --user restart ngfd to test the behaviour. See the default ini file contents for explanations how to define the sequences in general.07:11
ViGe#info <Jolla> For pulldown highlight, for example, see /usr/share/ngfd/events.d/pulldown_highlight.ini to see which vibrator effect is used, in this case it is “short”, haptic.effect = short07:11
flypigNice advice. Is there a specific repo where these files are managed?07:14
rainemakTo complete above, it has instructions for porters as well.07:14
rainemakDefaults are in adaptation repos07:14
flypigThanks; so different repo for each adaptation.07:15
rainemakfiles are applied in order so higher number overrides07:15
ViGe#topic Untracked bug reports (5 min -- asked by pherjung)07:16
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rainemakafair default vibra file is 50-droid-vibrator.ini => Thus, 51 or 60 overrides07:16
ViGe#info <pherjung> Untracked bug reports (see https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-irc-8th-june-2023/15732/2)07:16
ViGe#info <Jolla> As always, the Community Bug Coordination Team have done a superb job.07:16
ViGe#info <Jolla> As a result of their work, we now have:07:16
ViGe#info <Jolla> 3 high quality bug reports now recorded internally and tagged as "tracked".07:17
ViGe#info <Jolla> 3 old bugs marked as fixed07:17
ViGe#info <Jolla> 2 bugs waiting for input from reported, marked as pending07:17
ViGe#info <Jolla> 1 marked as a duplicate and closed.07:17
ViGe#info <Jolla> 1 closed as not a bug07:17
flypigGreat work as always from the CBCT. More bugs out than in this time :)07:19
ViGeyup. It's nice to get those old ones closed.07:19
ViGe#topic Open PR discussion (5 mins -- asked by jolla)07:20
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ViGe#info <jolla> Any open PRs to discuss?07:20
flypigNice to see that the PR discussed last time was merged.07:23
flypighttps://github.com/sailfishos/sensorfw/pull/807:23
ViGeBringing the PRs up in these meetings does have an effect :)07:24
ViGe#topic General discussion (20 min)07:25
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ViGeNow that we are in the general discussion section, I think I could answer flypig's question from earlier, which I missed as I busy copypasting: No, we don't have feature pre-announcements for the future releases. The releases will contain whatever is ready at the time ;)07:26
flypigThanks ViGe... that's what I expected of course, but had to ask :)07:27
ExTechOpHas any progress been made on the missing notification sounds issue? https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/4-1-0-23-4-0-1-48-4-4-0-64-4-5-0-16-no-notification-sounds-ringing-sms-alarm/488607:28
flypigI had a quick skim through Damien's repo roundups. It looks like there are quite a few changes to networking, calendar, sync, sensors and other backend stuff. Not too many front-end changes though.07:28
pherjung[m]Would it be possible to have a comment on this article?: https://mobiili.fi/2023/06/06/jollaa-haetaan-yrityssaneeraukseen-nokian-perintoa-jatkaneen-yhtion-tulevaisuus-vaakalaudalla/ ?07:28
ViGeExTechOp: There was some investigation done in February, but unfortunately I don't see any progress being made after that.07:30
rainemakpherjung[m], Nope07:30
rainemaki.e. nothing to comment07:31
flypigThanks for sharing the lihnk pherjung[m].07:36
flypigAnd thanks for an interesting meeting as always (have to go: my train is pulling in).07:37
ViGeflypig: cheers!07:37
ViGe#topic Next meeting time and date (5 min)07:45
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ViGeProposing Thursday 22nd June at 07:00am UTC07:45
ExTechOpThat's the day before midsummer eve :-D07:46
ExTechOpJuhannusaatonaatto.07:46
ViGeRight. Perfect way to start the midsummer activities.07:47
ViGeAs there are no objections, juhannusaatonaatto it is07:49
ExTechOpI'm already on vacation then, can't be sure I'd be able to join so no comment from me.07:49
ViGe#info Next meeting will be held on Thursday 22nd June 2023 at 07:00am UTC: 2023-06-22T0700Z07:49
ViGeI will be on vacation in July, so the next one will most likely be the last one before summer break07:50
ViGethanks everyone!07:50
ViGe#endmeeting07:50
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ExTechOpThanks everyone!07:50
Crabsterthx to #?07:50
rainemakThank you!07:53
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