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#sailfishos-meeting: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration – 17th September 2020
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Meeting started by abranson at 07:10:56 UTC. The full logs are available
at
https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2020/sailfishos-meeting.2020-09-17-07.10.log.html
.



Meeting summary
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* Meeting information and agenda can be found here:
  https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-irc-17th-sept-2020/1783
  (abranson, 07:12:07)
* Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with # info
  (abranson, 07:12:30)
  * Andrew Branson – Sailor @ Jolla  (abranson, 07:12:30)
  * Jussi Maaniitty - Sailor @ Jolla  (maajussi, 07:13:02)
  * Otto Mäkelä - community  (ExTechOp, 07:13:06)
  * Nico - community  (Nico[m], 07:13:14)
  * Nikita Ukhrenkov (*Kit) - Sailor @ Jolla  (TheKit, 07:13:16)
  * David Llewellyn-Jones - sailor @ jolla  (flypig, 07:13:34)
  * Björn Bidar - Sailor @ Jolla  (Thaodan, 07:13:45)
  * Chris Josten - community  (ahappyhuman, 07:14:14)
  * Simo Piiroinen - sailor @ jolla  (spiiroin, 07:16:38)
  * Ville Nummela - sailor @ Jolla  (ViGe, 07:17:40)

* Separation or more freedom to the community for parts of the OS that
  are not relevant to the commercial clients. (15 mins by ApB)
  (abranson, 07:18:46)
  * Its kind of a weird topic since its not much of a question but more
    of a discussion around how to make the community work better with
    Jolla. The idea comes from a comment by @pmelas . Parts of the OS
    are probably (??) not that important to the commercial side of
    things.  (abranson, 07:18:59)
  * Has jolla thought of separating (or maybe opening) those parts -apps
    mainly- from the parts that commercial clients care about so that
    the community can (potentially) improve them??? Or for more freedom
    in the store since in a commercial environment/work phone a user
    will be limited to what the company decides.  (abranson, 07:19:05)
  * We could start this answer by asking what are the most critical
    problems with contributions? Certainly the closed source trees are
    one aspect of a problem  (abranson, 07:48:17)
  * but what else is there? Do you have problems with missing guidance?
    Problems with an SDK's? Problems with contributing to git trees,
    e.g., creating pull  (abranson, 07:48:17)
  * requests? Problems with getting things reviewed. This collected
    information would definitely help us in trying to provide solutions
    for the problems in  (abranson, 07:48:17)
  * order of priority.  (abranson, 07:48:17)
  * The Messaging app was pointed out as a good example of an app that
    is blocking community contributions due to its lack of support for
    group messaging, and there being no support for third party account
    plugins.  (abranson, 07:57:14)

* “E2E testing in Sailfish” brief followup (flypig - 5mins)  (abranson,
  07:58:29)
  * Last meeting @Sefriol asked about end-to-end testing 1 of SFOS
    components. This will be a very brief follow-up to that question,
    since I promised to do so. Here’s the discussion from the last
    meeting 3 for reference.  (abranson, 07:58:39)
  * LINK: https://github.com/yarfruct/sailfish-os-test-runner   (flypig,
    08:01:10)

* General Discussion (20 min)  (abranson, 08:07:27)
  * LINK: https://pl.wordpress.org/plugins/wp-discourse/   (atlochowski,
    08:21:51)

* Next meeting time and date (5 min)  (abranson, 08:25:28)
  * Next meeting will be held on 1st October 2020 at 0700 UTC:
    2020-10-01T07Z  (abranson, 08:27:29)

Meeting ended at 08:27:55 UTC.




Action Items
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Action Items, by person
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* **UNASSIGNED**
  * (none)




People Present (lines said)
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* abranson (59)
* flypig (49)
* ahappyhuman (24)
* maajussi (20)
* ExTechOp (15)
* Nico[m] (12)
* Thaodan (7)
* martyone (4)
* ViGe (3)
* ApBBB (3)
* sailbot (2)
* TheKit (1)
* spiiroin (1)
* atlochowski (1)




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