================================================================================== #sailfishos-meeting: Sailfish OS, open source, collaboration -- 17th February 2022 ================================================================================== Meeting started by flypig at 08:00:40 UTC. The full logs are available at https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2022/sailfishos-meeting.2022-02-17-08.00.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * Meeting information and agenda can be found here: (flypig, 08:00:49) * LINK: https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/community-meeting-on-irc-17th-february-2022/10181 (flypig, 08:00:54) * Brief introduction (5 min). Please prefix your name/handle with #info (flypig, 08:01:08) * Otto Mäkelä, community (ExTechOp, 08:01:12) * David Llewellyn-Jones, sailor@jolla (flypig, 08:01:32) * pherjung, community (pherjung, 08:01:39) * attah, community (attah, 08:01:45) * Ville Nummela, Sailor@Jolla (ViGe, 08:02:07) * fridlmue, community (fridlmue, 08:02:20) * Pami Ketolainen, Sailor@Jolla (Keto, 08:02:27) * Nikita/TheKit, Sailor@Jolla :) (TheKit[m], 08:05:27) * Calculation of minimum SFOS version in Store/Harbour (15 min -- asked by attah) (flypig, 08:06:51) * Continued from the discussion on the forum. (flypig, 08:07:00) * LINK: https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/apps-that-havent-been-ported-to-aarch64-store/7331/67?u=attah (flypig, 08:07:04) * Adding aarch64 packages limits the minimum SFOS version to 3.4 for the other architectures too. (flypig, 08:07:11) * Ideally the minimum versions should be specific to each architecture determined by applying whatever magic to the individual packages. (flypig, 08:07:16) * From last time the question was brought up it sounded like that was hard to do with the current Harbour architecture. (flypig, 08:07:21) * So i would like to ask if it is possible to not count the aarch64 package in current checks - since getting 3.4 as minimum version is just as wrong as 2.0 anyway. (flypig, 08:07:28) * Many nice apps are missing for aarch64 due to this. (flypig, 08:07:32) * Thank you for raising this attah. There's been a lot of earlier discussion about this internally, and it was useful to be prompted again to review it. (flypig, 08:08:27) * The Hourbour Masters have taken another look at the backend Store code, and have found a way to accommodate all of the requirements. (flypig, 08:08:34) * The changes have been deployed, so you can now already upload aarch64 binaries without blocking armv7hl binaries with support for Sailfish OS releases earlier than 3.4.0. (flypig, 08:08:40) * If you run into any difficulties with the version detection, please let us know. (flypig, 08:08:47) * This is also a good opportunity to remind users that only the latest Sailfish OS release (4.3.0 as of today) is supported and receives updates from Jolla. (flypig, 08:08:52) * Older releases may be vulnerable to security issues which have been fixed in the latest release. (flypig, 08:08:55) * Small/low screen mode for the longphones (15 min -- asked by attah) (flypig, 08:19:57) * Continued from the discussion on the forum. (flypig, 08:20:01) * LINK: https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/small-screen-or-double-screen-for-the-long-models/6310?u=attah (flypig, 08:20:05) * Would it be possible to get a cropped display mode on the longphones? 16:9 would be especially relevant and should work out of the box with apps and UI. (flypig, 08:20:10) * Use-cases include better one-handed usability, producing screenshots in the correct aspect ratio for Harbour, and adapting to possible future video output (Xperia 10 III). (flypig, 08:20:14) * Good idea, although we cannot really give roadmap promises for such new features. (flypig, 08:20:34) * Technically it is definitely possible, although it would require changes to closed-source UI packages like the homescreen so e.g. external contribution is not really possible. (flypig, 08:20:40) * When working with the feature phone proof-of-concept we have had versions of the homescreen draw the system UI and apps in a smaller area (and e.g. with a virtual phone keypad below). (flypig, 08:20:46) * Productisation naturally requires a different level of effort, e.g. to do this in an architecturally maintainable way. (flypig, 08:20:51) * LINK: https://github.com/mer-hybris/qt5-qpa-hwcomposer-plugin/pull/93 (flypig, 08:22:55) * Duplex Telegram bridge for #saiilfishos-meeting (5 mins -- asked by flypig) (flypig, 08:40:37) * During the last meeting we discussed how we could improve the community meetings. (flypig, 08:40:47) * A nice suggestion from pherjung was to make full participation possible via Thaodan's Telegram bridge, which is currently read-only. (flypig, 08:40:53) * LINK: https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2022/sailfishos-meeting.2022-02-03-08.00.log.html#l-24 (flypig, 08:40:59) * LINK: https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAFcbasJX67Fu-aGxxQ (flypig, 08:41:02) * We said we'd look into it, and this will be our chance to give an update. (flypig, 08:41:07) * LINK: https://irclogs.sailfishos.org/meetings/sailfishos-meeting/2022/sailfishos-meeting.2022-02-03-08.00.log.html#l-74 (flypig, 08:41:13) * We looked further into what's needed to provide full-duplex support for Thaodan's Telegram bridge. (flypig, 08:41:30) * We concluded that meetbot would need updating to interpret the prefixes sent by the bridge. (flypig, 08:41:35) * Since the user assigned to the bridge can change, we've not yet decided how to tackle the issue of impersonation. (flypig, 08:41:41) * We plan to look at this further in the coming weeks and try to get something sorted by the end of May. (flypig, 08:41:47) * Either way, we'll set a deadline to give a further update at the 31st March meeting. (flypig, 08:41:52) * The meetbot code is open source python, so if anyone from the community wants to help with the update, let us know. (flypig, 08:41:56) * LINK: https://github.com/emonty/meetbot (flypig, 08:41:59) * Meetbot runs Limnoria, the initial idea is to see if a event filter plugin can be implemented that does some conversion on the messages coming from the bridge. (flypig, 08:47:31) * LINK: https://limnoria.net/ (flypig, 08:47:38) * Jolla's meetbout source is https://github.com/keto/meetbot (flypig, 08:48:26) * LINK: https://github.com/keto/meetbot (flypig, 08:48:32) * Ask Keto for more info if you'd like to help. (flypig, 08:50:23) * pherjung will create a topic on the forum about the IRC-Telegram bridge update. (flypig, 08:52:43) * General discussion (20 min) (flypig, 08:52:56) * PSA from piggz: chum for version 4.3.0.15 finished building overnight (flypig, 08:54:26) * pherjung created a topic for discussion of the Telegram-IRC bridge update (flypig, 09:05:17) * LINK: https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/update-meetbot-to-provide-full-duplex-support-between-telegram-and-irc/10331 (flypig, 09:05:20) * List of open PRs to all sailfishos (organization) projects (flypig, 09:14:23) * LINK: https://github.com/pulls?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Apr+user%3Asailfishos (flypig, 09:14:25) * List of PRs that recently got merged (flypig, 09:15:14) * LINK: https://github.com/pulls?q=is%3Aclosed+is%3Apr+user%3Asailfishos+ (flypig, 09:15:16) * Next meeting time and date (5 min) (flypig, 09:17:30) * Next meeting will be held on Thursday 3rd March 2022 at 08:00am UTC: 2022-03-03T0800Z (flypig, 09:19:00) Meeting ended at 09:19:11 UTC. 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