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Agatha18 Here some videos. I hope you like them! http://bit.do/my_videos6902:06
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ericccrubbish  robot02:12
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lpotterit always happens at about 4 05 6 after the hour, in 2,3, or 4 hour interals04:01
lpotter4 or 6 after04:01
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lpotterintervals even04:02
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Ashley27 You can find funny videos here. http://bit.do/my_videos6904:04
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merlin1991hm we should make the channel invite only from x:04 to x:06 :D04:16
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ericcc_two   channel...04:34
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Stskeepsgood morning06:33
lpottermorning06:35
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ericccmorning06:46
ericccStskeeps:  the   hackday is finnish?06:46
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Stskeepsericcc: yeah it was in tampere06:54
Stskeepsnot sure what language it was in though06:55
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ericccand had some pdf for this hackday06:56
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Stskeepshmm i don't know, i wasn't there07:03
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tbrthe hackday was in english07:09
tbrthe presentation about hello world pro is available as far as I know07:09
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ericccand then  what  is  jollatre07:13
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Stskeepsericcc: tre is short for 'tampere' :)07:19
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tbrthe guy from jollareview blog was also there and interviewed people07:22
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ericccand  teach somebody study qt:)07:27
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Agatha20 You can find funny videos here. http://bit.do/my_videos6908:03
Stskeepsoh will you stop it08:04
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mikmawhee \o/08:18
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arStskeeps: they seem to have the same problem on erlang's channel08:37
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kimmoliYou can find funny video here: http://reviewjolla.blogspot.fi/2014/02/jolla-hack-day-devaamo-tampere.html08:38
kimmoliStskeeps: don't ban me08:39
tbr:D08:39
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ln-http://www.hs.fi/sunnuntai/Nokian+Lumia-puhelin+vuotaa+tietoja+ulkomaille/a139304697494908:46
Jopezomg08:48
Stskeepshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEsNZdcw_cU - you'll want to see this one08:53
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tbroh, another funny video! :D08:58
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Morpog_PCnice sledges!08:58
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skvarkhttps://vimeo.com/87360711 made this last night :)09:01
tbrit's funny-video-day!09:02
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Morpog_PCinteresting to see, that creating ambiences takes alot longer on the nexus4 compared to the Jolla device09:02
sledgesbuy a jolla ;P09:03
Morpog_PCanother one? :D09:03
ln-why not09:03
sledgesnever enough :))09:03
Pnuucatamaran sailing09:04
* tbr is pondering to upgrade his catamaran to a trimaran09:04
sledgesit's devel version, lots of logging09:04
* tbr has two jollas and that nexus4 video looks promising09:05
sledgesn4 as a sail ;)09:05
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Morpog_PCit's great to see nexus devices targeted09:05
tbrNexus7 as the sail09:05
sledgeswhy not dual sails then :)09:06
Morpog_PCand my Jolla is the Sialor?09:06
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tbrsoon we'll have a whole Armada09:06
StskeepsMorpog_PC: i think it's just some bad tuning of fs in this particular case09:07
Stskeepsalso, higher resolution09:07
Morpog_PCdo those ports also use btrfs?09:07
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Morpog_PCwell, I guessed the quad core and better gpu should easily handle the higher resolution :)09:08
Morpog_PCbut hey, for a WIP it's looking great so far09:09
Morpog_PCI just wish sledges would have started campera in the video :D09:09
Morpog_PCcamera09:09
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redtimeHi, is there any way to get a new display? Unfortunately my Jolla met the ground... :(10:05
ggabrielredtime: i'd email care@jolla.com for that10:06
redtimeggabriel: any answer?10:06
ggabriel?10:06
ggabrielyou have to email :)10:07
redtimeokok :)10:07
TMavicaany live streaming of jolla in mwc?10:08
mikmaredtime: sure there is for the price of 250e10:09
Stskeepswasn't it 219 last time?10:09
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stn^and you can find used jolla in finland for sub 250e10:10
TMavicastskeeps wts the time start?10:10
louisdkI keep getting notifications about the 1.3.8 update even trough it's installed. If I install it again I'll get the notification again tomorrow.10:10
TMavicaspain time?10:10
StskeepsTMavica: doubt there's streaming fwiw10:10
Stskeepsit's a trade fair10:10
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TMavicaok.10:11
redtimemikma: and do you have any link to the shop where I can order it or should I write the email care@jolla.com?10:12
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TMavicaJolla official office in Hong Kong , will be a Jolla care? Want to hv a visit, LOL10:14
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mikmaredtime: all i can tell you now is http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=9258110:16
mikmaredtime: optima / dna -> 210e apparently10:16
TMavicastskeeps, do u know who is Li Ka Shing?10:16
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StskeepsTMavica: hmm no10:17
ggabrieldna is a good option if you're in finland10:17
ggabrieland it will cost you, yeah10:18
TMavicaLOL..10:18
ggabrieli guess for the rest of us you'll have to ship it back10:18
ggabrielerm... we'll have to... *10:19
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Venemomorning :)10:27
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ggabrielVenemo: o/10:27
Venemohey ggabriel :)10:28
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wickwireHi, anyone working with TOH ambiances?11:23
wickwireI'm trying to build the template from the TOH SDK on Linux11:23
wickwireand I'm getting errors when building the RPM11:23
wickwirehttp://hastebin.com/kefebedeji.vhdl < the output I'm getting11:25
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wickwireI tested building/deploying on a windows environment and it worked, the rpm was built - the SailfishOS SDK was updated same as linux,11:26
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wickwirejust didn't update the Qt Creator IDE11:27
wickwireit seems to me that the qmake step inside the Mer VM isn't working properly, but I'm not being able to debug the issue11:28
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wickwireI've read online that some of these errors relating to rpm generation may be connected to windows generated files when used in windows,11:29
wickwireso I've also tried to re-create the project from scratch in linux11:29
wickwirebut the error still persists11:29
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Venemowickwire: please take this to #sailfishos11:30
wickwireVenemo thanks I will do that11:30
Venemowickwire: generally, this channel is more user-oriented and that channel is more developer-oriented11:31
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wickwireahhhh ok ok - sorry about the mixup11:32
wickwireI went with this one because I thought I was something jolla specific11:32
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tobiskioh no, my phone apparently went into bootloop :<11:57
tobiskiit has 56% battery left and rebooted itself all of a sudden11:57
tobiskiit showed few times the lodaing image and booted up correctly, but then again it rebooted and now it's just showing the charging image for while and vibrates shortly11:58
mikmapull the battery for like 10 mins and see what happens after11:58
tobiskijust take it of straight away? or do I need to power it down first by holding the power button? does it matter?11:59
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tobiskihmm, it managed to boot now12:00
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tobiskiI didn't do anyting12:01
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tobiskiprobably on the 30th time it booted up all the way12:01
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Sandy28 Here some videos. I hope you like them! http://bit.do/my_videos6912:04
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ggabriel_ok, some things in tjc are priceless12:16
ggabriel_kind of puts things in perspective12:16
Andy80do you know how to manually set the online presence on Jolla? I mean Online/Away/Offline etc...? (in Gtalk, Facebook chats..)12:16
ggabriel_Andy80: from the events menu?12:17
ggabriel_you only have available/away/offline12:17
ggabriel_as in: pulley menu from the events screen*12:17
Andy80oh right thanks...12:18
ggabriel_have a quick look at jolla.com/guide btw12:18
Andy80I just wanted to do a test, but I think there is a bug in general....12:18
ggabriel_full of nifty tricks12:19
Andy80I explain12:19
ggabriel_ok12:19
Andy80I see many contacts offline12:19
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Andy80but they're online both on GTalk and Facebook (I see them on my PC)12:19
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ggabriel_not sure i managed to bother trying that :P12:20
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QuuAndy80: bad connection to servers maybe12:20
ggabrielor bad servers, if we talk about google or facebook ;)12:21
Andy80well... the point is that is supposed to work properly :)12:21
* ggabriel just joking12:21
Andy80and it was, in the first releases12:21
Andy80:)12:21
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Venemomy latest annoyance: https://together.jolla.com/question/29909/bug-jolla-reminds-you-of-birthdays-even-if-birthays-calendar-is-disabled/12:27
ggabrielok, Andy80, just did a tiny test and worked for me12:28
ggabrielwith a couple of facebook accounts12:28
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ln-my latest minor annoyance: https://together.jolla.com/question/23805/pulley-menu-could-move-quicker-in-landscape-mode/12:29
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Andy80tried to disconnect wifi and reconnect again... the message application seems not to care about real online/offline status of people12:45
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ggabrielthis one is pretty annoying and isn't getting enough attention... https://together.jolla.com/question/22313/bug-email-inbox-is-indicated-as-trashcan-after-emptying-trashcan1038/12:51
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ggabrielthe question is a mess tho12:55
ggabrieli'm asking the author if i can rewrite it :)12:55
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Nichopeyou three (Venemo jpnurmi w00t_ ) : thanks for the landscape mode support in irc :) (yeah, I have just discovered it 2 days after updating :P)13:22
VenemoNichope: you're welcome13:24
Venemo:)13:24
Morpog_PCVenemo, maybe add a changelog to garbour app description like many develoeprs do?13:27
Morpog_PCharbour13:27
Sail0rha love it :) sunny day = happy day = jolla got a happy coloured toh instead of the black one13:28
Morpog_PCpoppy red? :D13:29
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Sail0ryep ;)13:29
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pahartikVenemo: Is it known problem that text wrapping is not adjusted when switching between portrait and landscape mode?13:34
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pahartikVenemo: Line wrapping on "communi-sailfish"13:35
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Venemopahartik: can you please open an issue about it on GitHub?13:36
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zbenjaminhey you guys looking into the telegram messenger already?13:40
zbenjaminit seems to be completely open13:40
tbrzbenjamin: is there either a telepathy or a libpurple plugin?13:42
zbenjamintbr: no but protocol, api and sourcecode is completely available. Lots of people seem to jump on it since the facebook whatsapp thing13:43
zbenjaminhttps://telegram.org/13:43
tbrI'm still on XMPP and a very happy camper13:44
Sail0rhttps://together.jolla.com/question/23838/app-request-client-for-telegram/13:44
* cb400f thinks the whatsapp acquisition made xmpp more relevant than ever13:44
Sail0rhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=9274113:45
Sail0rI am so happy that i've never used whatsapp ^^13:45
ggabrielhttps://telegram.org/faq#q-how-is-telegram-different-from-whatsapp13:45
ggabriel"Thanks to our multi-data center infrastructure"13:45
ggabrielmeh13:45
ggabrielyet another whatsapp13:45
* tbr will stay with XMPP, no sense in jumping on $latest_hip_im_protocol_that_will_die_tomorrow13:46
zbenjamincb400f: does xmpp have the feature of, you can instantly chat to all people in your phonebook? Because if not, then it will not be picked up sadly13:46
Venemotbr ++13:46
ggabrielzbenjamin: yeah, that means giving your contacts to some company13:47
ggabrielalso, if you add me to your phonebook, you won't be able to speak to me as i don't use telegram13:47
ggabrielso i think that's an overstatement of what telegram can do13:47
ggabrielit's just another whatsapp13:47
ggabrielxmpp ftw13:47
cb400fzbenjamin: adding your jabber/xmpp account on Jolla/sailfish adds your jabber/xmpp contacts to the phonebook, and lets you communicate with them via the sms/texting app13:48
cb400f(at least I think so, only set up my accounts yesterday, and so far noone seems to have responded to my (test) messages13:49
tbrzbenjamin: given that I do NOT want to be in some "spam X-hundred people with $cute_cat_video_link" chat, I'm a happy camper and many other people are too.13:49
tbryes it does13:49
* tbr uses it regularly13:49
ggabrielfwiw, whatsapp downlaods your phonebook any time it wants (it's in the tos)13:49
ggabrieland now they sold that info to facebook :)13:49
ggabrielcb400f: sailfish doesn't add contacts automatically13:49
ggabriel(not yet)13:49
ggabrielso, you have to have your jabber/xmpp contacts pre authorised13:49
ggabrielbut the harmattan has been doing this for years anyway13:50
ggabrielwaits for auth, lets you chat afterwards13:50
ggabriels/the harmattan/harmattan/ :)13:50
zbenjaminggabriel: i realize that , but people tend to like that its easy and just works, no need for exchanging nicknames or whatever and you automatically see if someone starts to use whatsapp13:51
ggabrielok, but you have to exchange something, right?13:52
tbrthose people are free to jump band waggons, doesn't mean I have to13:52
ggabrielemail, number, something13:52
zbenjaminggabriel: no13:52
ggabrielno?13:52
tbrggabriel: 'magic pixie dust' apparently ;)13:52
ggabrielsrsly?13:52
zbenjaminggabriel: yes of course :) you need your friends phonenumber but you have that anyway13:52
ggabrielhow does telegram know who i am then?13:52
Sail0rthat's true but privacy and easy are sometimes not compatible13:52
ggabrielright13:52
ggabrielso they store your number, great news!13:52
zbenjaminggabriel: technically your phonenumber is you nickname.13:52
* tbr doesn't have most people's phone number13:52
ggabrielok, i don't like it already13:52
cb400f:-)13:53
tbrmy XMPP roster on the other hand...13:53
ggabrielline is better13:53
ggabrieland it's as closed13:53
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ggabrielactually, line has a desktop client13:53
ggabrielso you may as well use line13:53
ggabrielif you are into non-secure non-private means of communication13:53
zbenjaminggabriel: i don't know how telegram does it, but technically unique checksum of the phonenumber should work too13:54
Sail0rtelegram has also desktop clients13:54
zbenjaminggabriel: thats how whatsapp does it13:54
ggabrielline doesn't steal your phone number13:54
ggabrieljust your email address13:54
zbenjamintelegram is cloud based it seems, you can access your messages from n clients13:54
ggabrielwhich is easier to discard13:54
Sail0rhttps://core.telegram.org/mtproto13:54
ggabrieleverything is cloud based13:54
ggabrielcloud isn't related to clients either13:55
Sail0rhttps://core.telegram.org/api/auth13:55
ggabrielyou can host your service with 1 server and have support for multiple clients13:55
Sail0rtelegram looks well documented13:55
ggabrielwell, they want your data13:55
ggabrielat least they can document how thye'll do it properly :)13:55
ggabrielanyway, i'll stop with the hate13:55
* ggabriel wonders why don't we all use xmpp13:55
Sail0ryou never get "normal" people to use xmpp13:56
ggabrielSail0r: what about facebook?13:56
ggabrielthey use xmpp13:56
ggabrielso, i can set up fb chat in the jolla13:57
ggabrielno need for extra client and so on13:57
ggabrielsame with gtalk, altho they'll make their own protocol now13:57
ggabrielxmpp supports voice calls etc13:57
Sail0rbut they don't want to setup anything13:57
Sail0rthey want to install a app and that's it13:57
ggabrielyou can set up your fb account?13:57
ggabrieli mean13:57
ggabrielfb is easy for the normal joe13:57
Sail0rnever setup a facebook account *g*13:57
ggabrieland it lets you set up an xmpp client if you want13:58
ggabrielsame with gtalk in the past13:58
ggabrielbut you see my point?13:58
Sail0ryep13:58
ggabrielbig corpos using standards13:58
ggabrielit's a nice thing13:58
ggabrielget an obscure OS with xmpp support and you're connected13:58
ggabrielwith telegram you need a client13:58
Sail0rwhatsapp was also based on xmpp according to some articles13:58
ggabrieland that's just the client argument13:58
ggabrielnah, bs13:58
ggabrielwell, actually, "based" is a tricky word13:59
ggabrielandroid is based on linux13:59
zbenjaminggabriel: yeah because facebook doesn't want your data ;)13:59
ggabrielso is the vmware hypervisor13:59
ggabrielzbenjamin: that's why i said that that was the client argument13:59
ggabrielthe server is a different story13:59
ggabrielideally, you want something p2p, end to end encrypted13:59
ggabrielalso, you have otr to use with facebook13:59
zbenjaminyeah13:59
ggabrielso they won't get much13:59
ggabrielxmpp does some sort of p2p13:59
ggabrielso servers can route conversations through one another13:59
ggabrielgoogle used to support that14:00
zbenjaminat least the telegram is is encrypted :)14:00
ggabrielbut they claim there's a lot of spam so they switched it off14:00
ggabrieli doubt it14:00
ggabrieli bet they have all your conversations in their servers14:00
ggabrielanyway14:00
Sail0rencrypted or plaintext?14:00
ggabrieldoes it make any difference?14:00
ggabrielthey have the key14:00
ggabrielin fact, will we ever know?14:00
Sail0rit's the same thing with threema14:01
Sail0rwhich many people in germany starting to use14:01
ggabrielyup, loads of these services14:01
Sail0rthey say it's end-to-end encrypted14:01
Sail0rbut nobody knows14:01
ggabrielotr encrypts end to end14:01
Sail0rit's closed and no documentation anywhere14:01
ggabrielbut you need clinet support14:01
Sail0rbut many people trust threema because it's from switzerland14:02
ggabriellol14:02
Sail0rbut why should i trust switzerland?14:02
louisdkI keep getting notifications about the 1.3.8 update even trough it's installed. If I install it again I'll get the notification again tomorrow.14:02
Sail0rlouisdk: known bug search for it on tjc14:03
ggabriellouisdk: they stopped for me, but i think it's a known bug14:03
ggabriellouisdk: so be patient :)14:03
Sail0ri hope it's fixed with the march release14:03
PnuuI've never had those14:04
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Zoe19 Hi! I give you some videos. I hope you like! http://bit.do/my_videos6914:04
Sail0r..14:04
ggabriellol14:04
Quuhuehue14:04
Pnuubut then, I have my phone very rarely on wlan14:04
ggabrielok, this bot at least is funny14:04
ggabrielPnuu: mine is always on wlan14:04
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Sail0rThe funniest thing this week is reading about the whatsapp users migrating to other services14:05
Sail0rbecause fb is evil and whatsapp was not14:05
Sail0rlol14:05
ggabriel+114:06
Venemoheh14:06
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stn^they should change to irc14:06
ggabrielno, can't do, irc is only for hackers14:07
Sail0rfreenode ddosed by whatsapp users? ^^14:07
bencoh:))14:09
louisdkSail0r,ggabriel: Cool. I'll just ignore it then. Just wanted to know :)14:09
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leonovhi all... just a qick question, is there any info on when will new update be available?14:47
Yanielbefore the end of the month I suppose14:47
TMavicaEarly of March14:47
Quu5th?14:48
Quuerh14:48
leonovnext two weeks then...14:48
Yanielyep, not too long14:48
Quuyeah sorry, wrong channel with updates lol14:48
YanielI hope the update after that is on april 1st14:48
tbrthis has been answered on TJC...14:48
leonov:-)))14:48
leonovtbr: tnx.14:49
Yanielah14:49
Yanielright mwc14:49
Yanielmakes sense14:49
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Morpog_PChttp://instagram.com/jollagirls15:25
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stn^whoa today's best link15:27
Morpog_PCand it wasn't from Amy :D15:28
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korhojoaheh, i know one of those girls15:28
YanielMiku :o15:29
Yanielwhat bothers me is why is the highlight colour of that ambience not turquoise15:29
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VenemoMorpog_PC: wow, had no idea there's such a thing15:37
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Morpog_PCinteresting, looks like OTG support is coming somewhere in the future: https://github.com/nemomobile/usb-moded/commit/44ebf5d79606a2ecb305e58ae71450dfe8853d1615:43
korhojoanice.15:45
VenemoMorpog_PC: OTG is not the same as host mode15:45
Venemoplease don't confuse people15:46
Morpog_PCoh I thought so15:46
Venemoctrl+f on that link and search for OTG15:46
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Morpog_PCwell I did before15:47
Morpog_PCUSB On-The-Go, often abbreviated USB OTG or just OTG, is a specification that allows USB devices such as digital audio players or mobile phones to act as a host, allowing other USB devices like a USB flash drive, digital camera, mouse, or keyboard to be attached to them.15:47
Venemoread the article further...15:47
VenemoI'm tired of having this argument over and over again15:48
Morpog_PCsorry Venemo :(15:48
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VenemoMorpog_PC: basically, OTG is the ability to decide whether the thing should act as a host or as a slave: ie. if you plug a device into a computer, it will be a slave, but if you plug a pendrive into your device it will be a host15:59
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tbrVenemo: it's a bit more than that. it can do dynamic negotiation between devices which one should be master/slave. what you describe is just the 'dumb' version of ID-pin based switching ;)16:08
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zetazVenemo: So what landed in nemo would be a "manual" way to switch by hand the USB in host mode ?16:20
Venemozetaz: I dunno16:20
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VenemoI just don't like when people jump to random conclusions16:20
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zetazVenemo: ok. I have at work a board which has a USB port that can be both host and slave, but lacking OTG. So we have to write to a file of the driver what mode we want, and it switches to it. I never really used it, as I am not sure how the USB power line is managed and protected and don't want to make big smoke cloud ;). Maybe this patch is a part of such functionnality, or is needed for OTH in the future... who knows...16:26
phdeswerzetaz: basically yes. It would be a manual way to switch the USB to host.16:26
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zetazphdeswer: ok. thanks16:26
phdeswerI mixed up OTG/host a bit to be honest.16:26
thedead1440Hmm so jolla showed a new pathway to WP too with libhybris? "Additionally, Microsoft also announced that any company can build a Windows Phone using Qualcomm's Reference Design; interestingly, this means that Android-based hardware could potentially be reused for Windows Phone."16:27
zetazphdeswer: ah ok.16:27
zetazthedead1440: do you have a link ?16:28
phdeswerWell I called it fake OTG so it basically it does not really matter16:28
phdeswerJust a small result of the Jolla hack day in Tampere.16:29
thedead1440zetaz: http://www.engadget.com/2014/02/23/microsoft-lg-lenovo-windows-phone/16:29
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zetazthedead1440: thanks16:29
thedead1440Wild guess; we may be approaching the stage where except for iOS most other OSes can be installed on any device...16:30
VenemoNOTE: jolla already confirmed that the device does NOT support OTG16:30
Morpog_PCyeah from reading the commit again it looks more like mass storage mode, but hey don't trust my words :D16:31
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zetazVenemo: apparently Nexus 4 has OTG ...16:32
Morpog_PCzetaz, Venemo was talking about the Jolla device16:32
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phdeswerYes Jolla does not support OTG (wrong connector, no power etc)16:33
zetazMorpog_PC: I understood, just wanted to say that not only the Jolla device will benefit from nemo in the near future.16:33
phdeswerIf some things go in usb_moded that does not necessarily mean it will be available for Jolla. I just happen to use the Jolla as it is the platform I can work the easiest on.16:34
p2-mateah, so a little hw hacking and can do host :)16:34
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Morpog_PCphdeswer, well in this case the commit modified a file called host_mode_jolla.ini :D16:35
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phdeswerMorpog_PC: indeed. The kernel supports switching the USB to host mode. If that works no idea.16:36
phdeswerAnd I know because I do usb_moded ;)16:36
Morpog_PCit even was your commit ,)16:36
Morpog_PC;)16:36
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phdeswerWell it is for the Jolla, but in no way official. ;)16:37
Venemonah, don't try to wash your hands16:41
Venemoyour dirty little secret is out now16:41
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phdeswerVenemo: well people asked for things, I obliged ;)16:42
Venemophdeswer: and it's awesome16:44
Venemophdeswer: hopefully there's gonna be an app (maybe not necessary official) for the jolla which'll make use of this ;)16:44
* tbr has a collection of 'special' cables. one side micro-b other side A-socket16:44
VenemoI have such an adapter too, somewhere in my drawer16:45
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tbrone of them is a filed down CA-157 :D16:46
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phdeswerWell you can just copy the config file from the commit to your Jolla )in the right spot) Send -HUP to usb_moded and you should be able to switch to host mode with usb_moded_util -s host_mode and tell me if it works ;)16:46
tbrphdeswer: does the production kernel support personality switching?16:47
phdeswertbr: in theory. I do not know if it actually does what is expected from it.16:47
zetazI have one from my N8, back in the time where that feature was standard ;) But it was lacking support for most things that are not input/storage...16:47
tbrok, let me set up my 'usual' setup for usb host mode hacking. cables, usb hub for 5V injection, etc16:48
Venemomaybe it's also worth to check if the jolla can supply some power16:49
phdeswerWell we sure can sit together to get it to work. And I do not mind injecting missing bits in the kernel if I can ;)16:49
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* phdeswer runs now. Getting a free dinner from friends for watching their dog.16:50
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* kimmoli recommends not to sneeze when mouth full of noodles :(16:57
Venemokimmoli +116:59
kimmoliAdvertising some progress with TOHKBD: Here is one funny video for you, hope you like it: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1413952&postcount=55117:01
Venemokimmoli: nice!17:02
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tbrphdeswer: Sorry an error occured, your request was not processed.17:05
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tbrphdeswer: I also tried writing directly to that sysfs node but it fails with "Permission denied"17:06
tbrneeds a longer look at kernel level I guess17:06
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sledgeskimmoli: very cool!17:08
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Isabella27 Hi! I give you some videos. I hope you like! http://bit.do/my_videos6918:04
tsukimorithis is getting old18:04
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Quuhue18:12
Quusomeone else than me should go to #help / #freenode and whine about it18:12
Quui have whined ~3 times about it but they do nothing18:12
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Emily19 You can find funny videos here. http://bit.do/my_videos6920:05
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Nicd-sigh20:08
Nicd-funny this is the only network I see spam in regularly20:08
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FireFlyit's really only in here and #sailfishos, for me anyway20:12
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Nicd-me too20:13
Nicd-though I'm only on two additional channels20:13
tsukimoriat least this is not the only network to suffer from regular DDoSing recently20:13
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FireFlyI'm on 45-or-so additional channels on freenode20:15
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FireFlyI should do something about that..20:15
Sail0ri wonder why the freenode providers are not able to mitigate the ddos attack20:15
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tbroh, I think I have a suspicion20:16
FireFlyQuu: maybe we should send abuse@ mails to the ISP of the IPs they connect from20:16
tbrI think the spammers come here as the channels are not +p or +s20:16
tbrthat means they show in /list20:17
FireFlyMost channels aren't secret/hidden though20:17
Nicd-yeah20:17
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Nicd-FireFly: probably botnets20:18
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FireFlyIt'd be nice if we could redirect users with nicknames matching [A-Z][a-z]+\d\d to another channel, with a topic explaining the situation20:19
FireFlyToo bad ban-masks aren't that powerful20:20
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pdanekIs there any, even little hope, of official keyboard-half on MWC? That community one taken from Motorola isn't so good. :/20:20
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ShadowJKSounds more like the "community" one will be declared official :P20:43
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clauhow ate notifications from android apps treated? do we get visual&audio? (haven't actually tried any)22:04
clau*are22:04
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Ashley25 Hi! I give you some videos. I hope you like! http://bit.do/my_videos6922:04
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lpotterStskeeps: ^^ block here too22:09
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ottuloclau: at least some appear on lock screen and notifications22:20
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clauapparently whatsapp is attacking again the opensource apps.22:22
clauprobably mitakuuluu soon too.22:23
dunpwhat?22:24
clauso I might have to use the official client :(22:24
dunpwhy it not like oss client?22:25
clauI like it, wh probably doesn't.22:26
clauhttps://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2014-02-12-WhatsApp.md22:30
claunot exactly new, though.22:34
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