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Guest83377nick mtd08:15
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Milo-where does the jolla-email store its emails? After re-creating an account, it seems to show bunch of emails that are actually deleted from the imap-server.08:22
Milo-I'd like to ensure that these emails are infact coming from the imap-server and not some cached emails on my phone.08:23
chriadam.qmf08:23
Milo-is it safe to rm -rf qmf/* after deleting an email account?08:24
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Milo-only one way to find out \o/08:25
Milo-hah, clicked started adding new email account while the remourse counter was still running, now my screen is "permanently" very dim within settings application :)08:27
Nicd-it would be nice if the remorse timers were configurable08:28
Nicd-5 seconds is a bit long for me08:28
gabriel9|workupdate?08:28
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Milo-next week?08:28
stephgETA!08:29
Morpog_Jollasoon08:29
Morpog_Jolla:D08:29
rangoysoon (TM)?08:30
Milo-awesome. after removing .qmf/*, re-creating account, fetching emails no longer functions :o08:30
gabriel9|worksomeone said friday08:30
gabriel9|worktoday is friday08:30
rangoythis or next?08:30
gabriel9|workearly march is not 1408:31
Accethat 14 is for year08:31
gabriel9|workday08:31
rangoygabriel9|work: true.. and jolla are unlike the others, they do actually deliver almost on schedule :)08:32
Acceah, you meant next friday08:32
stephgslow clap for Milo- ;)08:32
Pnuugabriel9|work: mar14 is march 2014, according to stskeeps08:34
Stskeepsnote that we had jan14 before too i think08:34
Milo-apparently now I don't have inbox at all and it's unwilling to fetch any emails from the server08:34
Accenext friday happens to be 14th, so gabriel doesn't mean the tag08:35
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stephgMilo-, reinstall the mail app?08:35
Nicd-someone should register isthenextjollaupdateoutyet.com08:35
gabriel9|worki read that update ETA is early march08:35
Stskeepsyou misunderstood, it's an 'early march'08:36
Stskeeps;)08:36
gabriel9|work:D08:36
gabriel9|workand btw do not watch new 300 movie08:36
Pnuu"soon"08:36
Milo-stephg no dice.08:36
stephg:(08:36
gabriel9|workany updates on sdk and account API?08:37
Nicd-Milo-: maybe use 'mv' next time instead of 'rm' :P08:37
gabriel9|workand settings API is alose needed08:37
Milo-Nicd- that's what I did :)08:37
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Milo-qmailstore.db-wal stays empty after the .qmf cleanup.08:39
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Milo-Any idea how to safely get rid of cached emails? In such way that the mails won't get deleted from imap server? (force full sync)08:42
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chem|stMilo-: for me email does not fetch anything new at all, how about you wait for the update?09:02
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chem|stturn was 5 weeks... now is 5 weeks... we were told that it is march next as february is just to short to hit the timeframe...09:04
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pp_"target" was this week, instead we get it next week :)09:13
chem|stbut I like the friday update... gives me 2 days on my couch to write bugreports09:14
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gabriel9|workchem|st +109:26
gabriel9|workand to fix things09:26
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Milo-fixing is overrated09:30
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chem|stgabriel9|work: to fix things?10:03
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chem|stif Jolla does not want us to test RCs they have to live with the shitstorm the 5 weeks after that. 1.0.3.8 isnt considered a piece of art, and I wonder how they got it to Stable without 1000 users RC testing - or it is like Nokia, call for alpha testing for 3 month and release at the specified day no matter what state you have and call it Stable10:06
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gabriel9|jollatest irc10:14
jabisirc test passed10:15
gabriel9|jolla:)10:15
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edgarsaaaaaa10:26
edgarsi need a softupgrade10:26
ggabrielwhy?10:26
edgarsWHY?10:26
edgarsevery day i have ~30 reboots10:26
edgarswhile calling10:27
Stskeepspull battery for 10 minutes10:27
ln-not enough?10:27
chem|stggabriel: cause my device even reboots when connected to BT now10:27
edgarsStskeeps: after every call? :)10:27
Stskeepsno10:27
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ggabrielchem|st: edgars: out of curiosity, do you guys use android? (chemist: sorry if I asked before, can't remember)10:28
edgarswhat android?10:28
edgarsapps?10:28
ggabrielalien dalvik10:28
edgarsnop10:28
ggabrielyeah, android applications in the jolla10:28
ggabrielinteresting10:28
chem|stStskeeps: pulling the battery every now and then isnt that a good idea anymore as the Aloe TOH of my sister broke after removing it like 4 times...10:28
Stskeepschem|st: i don't disagree10:28
chem|stggabriel: I have dalvik running but no apps started10:29
chem|stStskeeps: ;)10:29
w00t_huh. haven't had an OH break, yet, but i've always been worried about that :)10:29
* ggabriel wonders why his device hasn't rebooted a single time...10:29
edgarsi have no androshit at all10:29
chriadamif my TOH broke, i'd cry, honestly.10:29
ggabrielchem|st: sounds like something i'd take up as a warranty claim (aloe toh)10:29
ggabrieli had my first connection problem loop yesterday10:30
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chem|stw00t_: was wondering if that has been tested properly as a key feature I expect it to hold like at least 50 times (change each toh once a week)10:30
edgarsso10:30
edgarswhen we will see a upgrade?10:30
ggabrielnext week :)10:30
chem|stggabriel: care@ is aware10:31
edgarsdamn10:31
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edgarsif im going to germany that means i must take a second phone :/10:32
chem|stggabriel: I knew about the loop and stopped using connections but my home wlan which I had no problems with yet, first time I used mdata I had to reboot, actually every time I need mdata something gets screwed over10:32
kehnooyeah, I've got trip coming up and not taking Jolla as I need reliable phone, sadly10:33
ggabrieli wonder what the connectivity issue is10:33
ggabrielas i have far fewer issues than the previous update10:33
chem|stMessaging is crashing alot, I cannot sync emails anymore and yesterday it rebooted out of the blue while on BT10:33
ggabrieledgars: fwiw, my n9 is still my main phone - i knew what i was doing when i bought a device with a beta tag10:33
chem|stggabriel: for me it is the other way round, I had far less issues with 2.510:34
ggabrielyup10:34
ggabrielwell, i do have to reboot every now and then nowadays10:34
kehnooyeah, I had Jolla as main phone for solid month+, but now it seems to be doing random reboots and shutdowns10:34
chem|stggabriel: and that may explain it... use it as your primary and you will run in a lot more issues I guess10:34
ggabrielchem|st: yup, may be the case, something building up or whatever10:35
ggabrieli noticed that msyncd misbehaves, or at least uses tons of cpu every now and then10:35
chem|stggabriel: it seems to be aging like win9810:35
chem|stit is getting stottery after like 4 days uptime10:35
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chem|stignores swipes things start to crash - after a reboot everything is fine again for some days10:36
Nicd-I have 5 days uptime currently and I can't see any problems that would've appeared over time10:36
ggabrielyeah, the swipe ignores i get often10:36
ggabrielbut only when using mobile data10:36
ggabrielnever on wlan10:36
chem|stNicd-: don't pin me on the timeframe10:37
chem|stcould be 6 or even 7 days the last time this happened10:37
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chem|stggabriel: yeah I can support that view, mostly mdata issues I had, I think it rebooted only once when on wlan in the last 5 weeks10:39
chem|stI am talking rebooting on its own10:39
chem|stI had to reboot by hand several times as connman was going wild with something10:39
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ggabrielfwiw: https://together.jolla.com/questions/scope:all/sort:activity-desc/tags:mar14/page:1/10:40
ggabrielno conman mentioned there, but then it's tjc10:41
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chem|stmost of that I never crossed10:43
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w00t_it's not the _only_ stuff that changed. but I hope that's obvious :)10:45
chem|stI am more scared of that the design team is on the wrong pills now, it was so beautiful, sure a bit more contrast is needed but seriously a fat transparent X buttonlike indicator that you are closing an app?!10:46
chem|stw00t_: sure it is obvious10:46
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ggabrielw00t_: it's obvious, and it's obvious that you can't mark "mar14" certain questions that are too generic and so on10:47
w00t_chem|st: you'd be surprised how many people were accidentally closing things on first exposure (being used to the top being used for some kind of notification tray)10:47
chem|stw00t_: hehe androids and zombies...10:47
ggabrieloh, yeah, that android thingy10:47
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ggabrielwell, copy of symbian10:47
chem|stw00t_: you'd be surprised how fscked I am by the rotating gestures10:48
w00t_am drowning in overly long usb cables10:48
w00t_send help10:48
Nicd-chem|st: I think it looks better10:48
* ggabriel sends a long usb cable to w00t_ to rescue him10:48
ggabrielw00t_: grab with all your might!10:48
w00t_ah, found the right one. buried under a pile of papers :)10:48
chem|stNicd-: it breaks with the glas-like look10:48
chem|stNicd-: after all I agree to have it made easier for the masses10:49
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ggabrieldesign wise, i think it's a matter of getting ppl out of android/ios, then you can do whatever10:50
FireFlyI think the close indicator update seems like a good change10:51
FireFlyI think the current one, while aesthetically pleasing, is a bit too easy to miss, and I've occasionally accidentally closed applications due to how landscape-mode is only half-implemented10:52
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Nicd-rotating gestures are really stupid currently10:53
TeguFireFly: yea I've closed stuff too often accidentally10:54
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Nicd-I'd much rather have them not rotate in any app, but even extending rotation support to all apps would be better than the current situation10:54
FireFlyYeah10:54
chem|stNicd-: it even happened to me that the page rotated and the gestures didn't10:54
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* Stskeeps just has device permanently in portrait..10:54
Teguespecially when not all of the programs support landscape gesture rotations10:54
Teguor change page-wise10:55
chem|stStskeeps: yeah so you have an update...10:55
FireFlyFingerterm has always had landscape support, but doesn't rotate gestures10:55
Stskeepspoint10:55
chem|stStskeeps: we don't10:55
Stskeepsanyway, soon(TM)10:55
Tegufingerterm doesn't have paste feature :(10:55
chem|stwhy are you waiting till next week anyways?10:55
FireFlyWhich is incredibly annoying when you're IRCing in fingerterm in landscape, switching to browser in landscape, then back to fingerterm10:55
chem|stTegu: menu has it10:56
FireFlyand the gestures differ between the two apps10:56
Teguand copying only works inside the app, not system-wise (the last I tried.. actually I could try again now)10:56
Stskeepschem|st: we obviously didn't sacrifice enough goats10:56
RaimFireFly: agreed, I accidentally closed the browser several times when switching apps10:56
chem|stTegu: ah ok I get it10:56
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FireFlyTegu: I think there was a PR for fixing that on Github10:57
chem|stStskeeps: should I, I am sure I can get at least a goat a lamb and a sheep by tonight!10:57
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FireFlyhttps://github.com/nemomobile/fingerterm/pull/22 this claims to fix it one way, at least10:57
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chem|stFireFly: he? the gestures should be the same... if they differ you have the same problem as I had10:58
FireFlychem|st: they differ because fingerterm doesn't rotate the gesture, but the browser does10:58
chem|stchanging orientation twice helps it10:58
chem|stFireFly: fingerterm does rotate the gestures10:58
FireFlyHumm10:58
FireFlyBut I have fingerterm locked in landscape10:58
chem|stthat is exactly what I am on about10:58
Teguah yea that's another problem. the orientation doesn't chane if you open the app in landscape10:58
FireFlyOh10:59
Teguyou have to rotate it to portrait and back. this affects all the apps10:59
FireFlyI see10:59
chem|stmy fingerterm is on autorotate and had portrait gestures in landscape10:59
FireFlyAnd I hadn't noticed since I've had fingerterm locked to landscape ever since the pseudo-landscape-mode update10:59
chem|stTegu: never recognized it on other apps yet10:59
FireFlyso I just assumed it wasn't implemented in there11:00
chem|stFireFly: you saying if I lock it to landscape the gestures stay portrait?11:00
chem|stthat is exactly what I want!11:00
Teguhmm.. now that I tried it it worked.. maybe it happened in another situation11:00
chem|stfor me it is much easier to minimize from the bottom in landscape than from the sides11:01
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FireFlyHaha11:02
FireFlychem|st: it seems so, yes11:02
chem|stoh fsck it!11:02
* chem|st is locking his fingerterm11:02
Teguokay now I tried opening Tidings in landscape and it was in portrait mode until I rotated it11:02
Tegubut browser opens correctly, it seems11:02
FireFly<chem|st>   for me it is much easier to minimize from the bottom in landscape than from the sides  ← I agree, *except* it's even worse if it differs between fingerterm and other apps11:03
FireFlybut yeah, that behaviour everywhere (as it was before the pseudo-landscape-mode update) was pretty sweet11:03
chem|stFireFly: that is a bug...11:03
FireFlyYeah, yeah11:04
Tegusometimes when using with one hand it changes orientation when swiping (due to reaching with a finger)11:04
Teguan orientation lock would help here11:04
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chem|stFireFly: it is exploiting the bug that fingerterm starts always in landscape first but having the gestures portrait, so if rotation is not changed it stays that way11:04
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FireFlyChances are they've fixed it now that they have a system-wide rotation lock feature11:05
FireFly(in the upcoming update, I mean)11:06
chem|stFireFly: even better, if you fix the rotation the gestures stay that way, even if you hold it in landscape11:06
FireFlyOh11:06
chem|stFireFly: I doubt that it will11:06
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chem|stthe dynamic feature seems to be cool, but I want gesture rotation off and page rotation dynamic...11:07
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chem|stStskeeps: how do you unlock the dynamic rotation lock?11:09
FireFlyIt'd be nice if things like that were configurable with config files even if they don't have GUI options, so that power-users could configure their device exactly to their liking while it doesn't needlessly confuse people who don't care/the average user11:09
Stskeepschem|st: two goats11:09
chem|stFireFly: +++11:09
* chem|st is off for finding goats11:09
chem|stFireFly: an advanced section in settings available when in devel mode would be fair enough11:11
FireFlyThat would work as well11:12
chem|ston N9 I unlocked everything and anything I could find, the best thing I found to tune was the full swype settings... I never used it till I was able to configure it to my needs11:12
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TMavicatesting12:27
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Nicd-Test failed!12:27
TMavica...12:27
Nicd-(C)ontinue, (R)etry, (A)bort?12:28
TMavicais irc for sailfish consume operator data, i want keep it online12:28
TMavicalol12:28
Nicd-yes, the IRC client uses your mobile data12:28
Eztranthough, being IRC, probably not much of it...12:29
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TMavicamaybe i go register a unlimited data plan.12:29
TMavicafeel not so good12:29
TMavicalol12:29
Nicd-it will also kill your battery :P12:29
Nicd-Eztran: I once measured that I was able to use about 0.5 MB per day on a network with a few pretty active channels12:30
TMavicanot big deal, I have a powerful external power unit12:30
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EztranI wouldn't call that 'much', but I guess that depends on your data plan.12:30
TMavica10000 mah12:30
Nicd-Eztran: yeah, it's not much. unless your data plan counts time instead of bytes12:31
EztranTrue, if it's connected time IRC wouldn't be a good idea.12:31
TMavicain my country, unlimited 4G data plan cost 368HK dollars12:31
Venemomorning12:31
TMavicathat should be 37 euro dollars12:32
Venemoso, early march is gone, and no update so far12:32
Nicd-I have an unlimited data plan with 512k speed for 12.9 € per month12:32
Nicd-no, 2M speed12:32
Nicd-forgot I just upgraded12:32
TMavicamine is 4G12:32
EztranVenemo: Pretty sure they've been saying 'next week' since the start of this week. No surprises yet.12:33
TMavica512 k...too slow12:33
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Nicd-2M is enough for me on mobile, allows me to watch youtube :P12:34
TMavica2G unlimited plan only 6.8euro in HK12:34
VenemoEztran: next week is can no longer be considered "early march"12:34
Nicd-Venemo: it's early march compared to the end of march ;)12:35
Venemothey should've announced "next update is coming in mid-march"12:35
Eztran'early march' hasn't been used since last month that I've seen. Think I remember someone saying it slipped a week?12:35
ggabrielearly march: 1-1412:35
ggabrielmid march: 15-1612:35
Venemoso then, a new announcement is in order, saying "oops, we did it again, update slips a week"12:35
ggabriellate march: 17-3112:36
Venemoggabriel: early march: 1-7; mid march: 8-21; late march: 21-3112:36
ggabrielsee? it's all relative ;-)12:36
kehnooearly march: january; mid march: march; late march: april :p12:37
Venemokehnoo: +1 :D12:37
Venemoyeah12:37
Venemoanyway12:37
Nicd-where's february?12:37
Venemoooops, they did it again12:37
kehnooit's so short month, who cares12:38
kehnoo:p12:38
EztranHardly 'oops', update got postponed. Big deal.12:38
kehnoototally did not forget it12:38
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Venemothe point is not "ooops", but "again"12:38
Nicd-is it such a big deal?12:39
EztranUpdate didn't come the second you expect it 'again'.12:39
Venemoand now I will just stop arguing pointlessly about it :)12:39
EztranThat sounds a good plan :)12:39
ggabrielVenemo: when i have a deadline "early march" i want it to be 30-march :P12:40
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Stskeepsit'll come when it comes12:41
ggabrielis that am or pm? :P12:41
Venemolol12:42
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Nicd-maybe Jolla has just collaborated with Valve to implement Jolla time(tm)12:42
TMavicaI am cumming12:42
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AcceMaybe people just see things differently12:44
ggabrielimpossible12:44
VenemoAcce: like what?12:44
ggabrielwe must all see things like steve jobs12:44
Accelike, what is "early", exactly?12:44
ggabriel4am12:44
ggabrielthat's early12:44
Accethat is your definition12:44
EztranDiffering opinions on the Internet? No, this cannot happen!12:44
AcceI was thinking about 9 am :D12:45
Mnsu9am is still early too12:45
Accewhen does early become late?12:45
ggabrielafter "on time"12:45
Venemo:D12:46
Pnuurelevant: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5drjr9PmTMA12:46
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Nicd-is that the space balls clip?12:46
Pnuuit sure is!12:47
Nicd-then I don't even need to watch it to chuckle12:48
Pnuu"soon!"12:48
Pnuu:-D12:48
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Nicd-http://img.pandawhale.com/96817-sensible-chuckle-magazine-gif-FJK4.gif12:49
Accehah, legendary :D12:51
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kimmolimy Jolla email signature in finnish "Lähetetty Jollastani" ... wonders is Jollastani a new country?13:32
Nicd-that would be Jollastania13:32
kimmoliafter unfortunate typo... is head of sailors a sailord ?13:32
kimmoliSailord of Jollastania13:33
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svuorelakimmoli: sai-lord? or sailor-d(aemon) ?13:38
kimmolihmm13:38
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MirvI thought daemon13:55
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chem|stcuppa coffee 15c, crackers 90c, altering the led patterns with one hand without bootlooping - priceless :D15:20
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jabisso cheap coffee15:41
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bennypr0fanecan we say that Sf is based on Nemo like Ubuntu is based on Debian?15:42
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chem|stbennypr0fane: kind of15:45
chem|stsailfish is the combination of mer+nemo with silica on top15:45
chem|stif you compare mer+nemo with debian and silica with gnome15:47
sardinior mer+nemo = msdos and silica windows 3.1,15:48
chem|stwell not exactly....15:49
chem|stit is actually sailfish is based on mer with silica based on nemo15:49
bennypr0faneare the closed-source components of Sf only in the UI?15:49
Stskeepsbennypr0fane: i can get the view for you.. sec15:50
Stskeepshttp://releases.merproject.org/~carsten/niceview.png15:50
bennypr0faneand is it possible to write Sailfish apps in a language other than qml (and html5)?15:51
Stskeepsyes15:51
bennypr0faneOn Mameo/Meego it used to be C++. what about Python?15:51
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bennypr0faneooh, there's "jolla-handwriting" package. Anyone knows what that's all about? Because it sounds like some handwritten-character recognition thingy.15:55
bennypr0faneStskeeps: thanks!15:55
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chem|stbennypr0fane: .cn .jp chars15:56
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FireFlyStskeeps: lies, sailfish-browser is oss :P15:59
bennypr0fanechem|st: uhm, Windows registry editor files?15:59
bennypr0faneFireFly: indeed :-)16:00
bennypr0faneThe sailfish browser is now called Sailbro. :-)16:00
StskeepsFireFly: old view16:01
chem|stbennypr0fane: japaneese chineese16:01
Raimyou made that sound like cheese, now I'm hungry16:03
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bennypr0fanechem|st: ah, I never get how they do the text input. I thought they have the simplified characters on the keyboard (bcs there is a limited number of those) and the prediction lets you choose from the actual iconograms. Or do they actually draw the chars on the screen in sailfish?16:04
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Venemo_jno16:08
Venemo_jnoooooooooooooo16:08
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StskeepsVenemo_j: mm?16:09
bennypr0faneVenemo_j: did you get an Sf update notification for 1.0.3.8? :-D16:09
Venemo_jI said the nooo just because I saw the windows 3.1 reference16:10
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bennypr0faneHAHAHA16:11
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sardinior mer+nemo = amigarom and silica = workbench,16:20
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CoderCandyFuck!16:23
CoderCandyMy jolla just random-crashed again16:23
Stskeeps:(16:23
CoderCandyAnd I'm not ecen running 3.8!16:23
CoderCandyeven*16:23
Stskeepshopefully next version helps a large majority and those it doesn't, would go to care..16:24
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CoderCandyYeah16:25
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CoderCandyStskeeps: is a new update comming soon?16:26
Stskeepswhen it's coming, yeah16:26
Stskeepsit's not like we sit on our desks with a pipe in our hand and watch people suffering; we try to work on issues of our device16:26
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CoderCandyYeah I know, it's just that the update won't get pushed to me I think16:27
CoderCandySince I'm running 2.5 I have to get 3.8 forst right?16:27
Stskeepsnot necessarily16:27
CoderCandyfirst*16:27
Stskeepsi think 2.5 is a jump point16:28
Venemo_jwhat do you mean, 3.8 wasn't pushed to you?16:28
StskeepsVenemo_j: he's on a earlier version16:28
CoderCandyI had to get 2.5 before I could update to 3.8 when I factory reset16:29
CoderCandySo I was guessing I had to download all major updates beforw the current one in order to update.16:29
CoderCandyAlso, I miss a working IRC client in 2.516:30
Venemo_jCoderCandy: download irc from store16:30
CoderCandyIcan't see my input field while typing now :(16:30
CoderCandyVenemo_j: I did...16:30
CoderCandyDoesn't work well on 2.516:30
Venemo_jwhat doesn't work?16:31
CoderCandyThe IRC client from store16:31
Venemo_jman16:31
CoderCandyThe keyboard block the input field.16:31
Venemo_jI mean, what doesn't work in it16:31
Sail0rit's because of the landscape mode fixes16:32
sardinior mer+nemo = salad and silica = sauce, or mer+nem = fries and silica = mayonaise16:32
CoderCandyIt seems like the IRC client clears an area at the rom rather than the bottom.16:32
Sail0rthis will break the client in 2.516:32
* sardini dreaming16:32
Sail0ryou need the older version without landscape mode i thin16:32
Sail0rk16:32
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CoderCandytop*16:32
CoderCandyDoes anyone have an RPM of that?16:33
Venemo_jCoderCandy: update to 3.8, will you?16:33
CoderCandyVenemo_j: It's not stable on my device... It renders it pretty much unusable16:34
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CoderCandyIt got to the point where the remove battery trick only worked for like 15 minutes.16:35
CoderCandyAnd that was at >60% battery16:35
CoderCandyAnything less would only work a couple of seconds.16:35
CoderCandyThus, 2.516:35
Venemo_jCoderCandy: allright. you can I think still download the old version of the IRC client from github16:36
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CoderCandyCool, I'll check it out.16:36
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VenemoCoderCandy: https://github.com/communi/communi-sailfish/releases16:37
CoderCandythanks16:37
Accebeep16:38
CoderCandywhen was landscaoe introduced?16:38
CoderCandylandscape*16:38
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Acceanyone know any sqlite-like or even C / c++ / Qt graph databases?16:39
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matokingAw crud, just figured out that my application deletes files instead of copying them :/16:42
raa70space saving feature16:42
CoderCandyYeees!16:43
CoderCandyNow I can IRC normally on Jolla!16:43
* CoderCandy is happy16:43
Sail0r:)16:43
matoking@raa70 Yeah, it's a file manager application so this mistake is pretty critical16:43
matokingSo anyone using Filetug, don't use cut + paste until it's fixed :P16:44
VenemoCoderCandy: beware, those versions are outdated and might be buggy16:46
VenemoCoderCandy: landscape was introduced in the latest release16:46
CoderCandyVenemo: it's probably less buggy than the nee version on 2.516:47
CoderCandynew*16:47
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VenemoCoderCandy: it isn't16:48
CoderCandyWait, the tohd bug is still present in 2.5?16:48
VenemoCoderCandy: AFAIK yes16:48
CoderCandyVenemo: I beg the differ, I can see the input field on old version.16:49
CoderCandyVenemo: speaking of bugs, compare this in your desktop client vs jolla : &amp;16:50
VenemoCoderCandy: yes, that old version is full of other bugs16:51
CoderCandyI had that bug in new version as well IIRC16:51
Venemowe should've added a dependency on the latest release to the package so people can't install it on old version16:51
CoderCandyThat would probably be good :p16:53
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VenemoCoderCandy: not sure how the jolla store app would handle this, though16:59
VenemoStskeeps: any thoughts?16:59
Stskeepssorry, wasn't paying attention16:59
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CoderCandyStskeeps, if an app has the latest Sailfish release as a dependency.17:00
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ShadowJKis communi in jolla store updated? should I be seeing updates?17:17
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keithzgAm I asleep? Have I slept? ;)20:29
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Quuyes21:00
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Venemoso hard to find a good IRC client21:43
tbrirssi ftw!21:44
Quuirssi/weechat21:44
VenemoI mislike terminal based IRC21:44
Quupft21:44
Venemopft=?21:44
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Quuusing GUI for irc is like using word for coding21:45
* keithzg likes Konversation quite a bit21:45
VenemoQuu, I disagree21:45
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Quuyou can.21:46
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Venemo_thx21:46
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chem|stVenemo: I found it so hard to find a proper GUI client so I choose to go text-only with everything IRC IM Mail apart of some hickup with mailattachements (if no program is available on the server to display) I had no issues21:51
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Venemochem|st, nice for you :)21:52
chem|stVenemo: are you looking for desktop?21:52
Venemo_chem|st: I already have a desktop, I just want a nice-looking IRC client for it21:53
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chem|stI meant if you are loking for a desktop client21:53
Venemoyeah :)21:53
Venemofor now, I'm giving a chance to XChat21:54
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Venemolet's see how it works out21:54
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chem|stVenemo: yeah xchat or quassel21:55
tbrchatzilla is not a bad option either21:55
keithzgI remember using XChat way back in the day, I went over to Quassel and Konversation years ago though.21:55
RaimVenemo: go for hexchat instead, it's a recent fork21:56
VenemoRaim, already tried hexchat, it's hell ugly21:56
mikmahttp://hackaday.com/2014/03/07/soap-the-home-automation-router-and-kickstarter-scam/21:57
RaimVenemo: wouldn't say ugly... works for me, though :-)21:58
Venemoif xchat doesn't work out, I can always try others21:58
Venemoso far I've used Konversation which worked quite okay-ish but I've had enough of it21:58
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Venemoxchat lost its chances, I'm using communi now22:22
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Quuapple people demands eyecandy for useless shit22:36
* lpotter prefers quassel or irssi22:37
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