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CoderCandyThat's it, my jolla will be sent to care.00:12
CoderCandyStill having reboot problems.00:13
CoderCandyBattery out did not help after update :(00:13
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KiranosReilu-Kake: did you see any changes for you when you uninstalled calendar/email app?07:28
Quuhöhö, kaketsu07:29
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coderusany mitakuuluu users with messages send/delivery issue here?08:40
Nicd-I had a couple of messages that never arrived08:40
Nicd-my wife's iOS client showed them as sent and read though08:41
Nicd-but it hasn't happened again08:41
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jussinice fact of the day: after the update my brother in law has had no issues with reboots and is very happy with the phone! :)08:50
jussiStskeeps: ^^ :)08:50
oh8gnz_jussi: sounds nice08:50
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oh8gnzhave you noticed that after NFC update touchscreen has been more sensitive? My cheek is all the time pushing "mute" etc. from screen08:51
oh8gnzbefore that update I haven't had such problems08:51
jussioh8gnz: yeah, he had lots of issues prior to the update, but now everything is much better for him.08:52
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Venemo_jjussi: glad to hear that :)08:54
jussiVenemo_j: me too! :D08:54
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ottuloeverything is working pretty smooth here too, the only issue is the increased battery drain :/08:57
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Bysmyyrcoderus: forward do not work09:01
Stskeepswho here has reboot issues still?09:01
Stskeepsas in, jolla logo appears again09:01
Bysmyyratleast before last update09:01
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eitzeiI have reboot issues after the newest update.09:03
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Stskeepseitzei: how often?09:04
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chem|stStskeeps: my sister had twice some alike, her phone shutdown with "overheating" when she activated anything on the modem chip09:07
eitzeiStskeeps: Not on dailybasis, but maybe every other day. And there is multiple reboots then. For example yesterday I had 3 or 4 reboots. I am not sure does the mobile data and Firefox have something to do with it because it happed two times in a row when I enabled mobile data and started firefox09:07
Stskeeps:nod:09:07
chem|stStskeeps: device is not getting warm09:07
Stskeepseitzei: rebooted since last reboot?09:07
Stskeeps(rebooted since last unintended reboot)09:08
eitzeiStskeeps: Yes, after the fourth unintended. And then I took battery out for 5 minutes at least09:09
Stskeepsok09:09
Stskeepsnext time an unintended reboot happens, do me a favour and cat /proc/cmdline as root/devel-su09:10
eitzeiOk, I'll.09:10
BysmyyrI got btfs fulldisk problem yesterday, now it isfixed09:11
Bysmyyrbtrfs*09:11
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Venemo_jBysmyyr: what was the solution?09:15
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locusfVenemo_j: btrfs fi balance /home09:20
Nicd-after making some space09:21
tevehttps://together.jolla.com/question/30822/root-and-home-disks-full-and-causing-various-problems/09:22
kimmolii had reboot-series few days ago, 3 reboots within couple of hours, and then nothing. All reboots happened abt few minutes after using the phone (it was just lying on the desk in front of me, ssh connected)09:22
vanadisoh hai09:25
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vanadisI'm unable to connect to wifi since the last update09:26
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vanadisI can connect to new Wifis, but all networks which have been connected once before the update are not working anymore.09:28
Stskeeps-> together.?09:28
vanadisThis includes my home wifi, which was added through GUI and my work wifi (EAP), which was added through CLI.09:29
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oh8gnzI've had problems with wifi all the time I've had the Jolla phone09:52
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oh8gnzdisconnects, unable to get connection, slow like snail...09:53
oh8gnzmany times moving to 3G makes it much better09:53
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locusfhmm my Jolla no longer rotates between portait and landscape, is there some setting for this?10:07
ggabriellocusf: yes, in settings->display (or something like that)10:08
ggabrielalso, if it's in dynamic and you rotate it by tapping the screen, it won't rotate10:08
locusfah10:09
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inffy_oh8gnz: i think it is a known issue still10:09
KiranosStskeeps: you should invest some time in a bugreport app like debians reportbug: https://packages.debian.org/stable/utils/reportbug10:13
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StskeepsKiranos: we actually have one10:13
Stskeepsbut it's not exposed to users10:13
Kiranosah nice10:13
Kiranosits really useful to gather device info autmatically10:14
Stskeepsyes10:14
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KiranosStskeeps: do you know the reason to have it inhouse only?10:17
StskeepsKiranos: not a terribly good one10:17
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cvphi10:40
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tjpStskeeps: Re: reboot issues. I've seen them a couple of times after Ohijärvi update as well. Pretty much the same symptoms as eitzei described. Removed the battery for 10 minutes after the update, but that seemed to work only temporarily.10:45
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ottulouhh... I recharged my phone to 100% yesterday, it's been about 12 hours now and it's at 22%11:02
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ottuloI have only used it for a couple alarms and once to check something small, otherwise it's just the email syncing on 3G11:03
Pnuuhave you used wlan at some point?11:04
ottulonot since a couple days ago, it is disabled now11:04
ottulobut since last reboot, yes11:04
Pnuuok, seems to be a common factor with that power drain11:06
ottulois the drain smaller when on wlan?11:06
Pnuuwithout touching wlan I have minimal power drain11:06
ottuloI've kept it off since before the update there used to be problems when switching between wlan and 3g (and I have faster connection through 3g :P)11:07
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Pnuubuyt if I enable it for a moment, it starts to drain 4 % / hour or so11:07
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ottulook... maybe I'll give it a reboot and keep wlan off, recharge and see if it still drains at the same rate11:07
Pnuudo that :-)11:07
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ottulohungermeter shows 12 h avg as 475 mW right now, I remember it being smaller initially right after update - somewhere between 100-200 mW I think11:08
ottuloheh, after reboot it shows 29% battery11:10
ottuloI wonder if it reaches 100% if I keep rebooting? :P11:10
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oh8gnzottulo, where did you get that hungermeter11:16
oh8gnzI could put it to my jolla too11:16
oh8gnzto see if thre's difference11:17
Nicd-jolla store11:17
oh8gnzhmm.. I tried to find such program few days ago11:17
ottuloyeah, was thinking it was probably from jolla store and not openrepos11:17
Nicd-it's called hunger meter11:17
oh8gnzloading11:17
oh8gnzthanks11:17
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oh8gnzwhile using that software it uses 840 mW (60s average)11:23
Pnuuset average to 60 s and turn off the display for a minute11:24
oh8gnzok11:24
oh8gnzstarting now ;)11:24
Pnuuhmm11:24
Pnuuit seems that it didn't run at all during that time :-P11:25
Pnuuwith display on I get ~500 mW11:25
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Nicd-Pnuu: probably its timers didn't fire11:26
Nicd-because of power saving11:26
oh8gnzhmm..11:26
Pnuuseems so11:26
oh8gnzinteresting11:26
oh8gnzit was 420mW but it fast went to ~800mW11:27
oh8gnzwhen went back to program11:27
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oh8gnznow it was about 320 mW11:45
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chem|stis it normal that the auto-brightness is like adjusting up-down without light change and in flickering steps?11:56
PnuuI've noticed that too sometimes11:56
Pnuumainly in toilet cubicle ;-D11:56
tillis it adjusting at all? :)11:56
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chem|stit changes when I am sitting on the couch when slightly turning the phone, away from my face and back to my face11:57
tillwhat is your brightness control set to?11:57
chem|stminimum11:57
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chem|stmy couch is black so that might be high contrast to my face but well in a dimmed room it should not change much11:59
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tillmine is set to 25%(?) and i hardly see any adjustment12:00
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chem|sttill: yeah I did not recognize it for a while but sometimes it just hits you, onehanded on the couch I turn it slightly away to type on fb, wp or something, bright websites, and it adjustes each time I move it12:02
tillon my n8 i can see it quite clearly12:03
tillbut on the jolla i never noticed any automatic change of brightness12:03
aupoAny Jolla-employees around?12:03
Stskeepssort-of, but we don't give official answers here12:04
Stskeepswhat's up though?12:04
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chem|sttill: it adjusted lower than you may set with the slider so I activated it... and thought that may save some battery but now as it adjusted so often it came to my mind that the auto-mode may eat the battery12:04
till:)12:05
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thargorHi all, I'm currently not able to enable the developer mode. after ~70% of the activation bar the window closes and nothing happens... does anybody have an idea?12:09
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netzviehwell up 3 days, 18:10 doesn't look to bad :) and I'm still at 45%12:18
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Pnuuthargor: store works normally?12:20
thargorphuu yes12:20
thargorPnuu sorry12:20
thargorI think a stable network connection is required to enable the developer mode, right?12:22
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Pnuuyes, as it get packages from jolla12:23
Pnuugets12:23
thargorand thats the reason why I like to enable the developer mode, because my wifi is connected and not working as expected. my jolla is loosing the connection all the time (not loosing but not able to receive data)12:24
oh8gnztry using 3g12:24
thargornot working too...12:25
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coderusconnect with usb cable to pc and share connection over rndis12:26
coderusah12:26
coderusyou should have developer mode already to do it...12:26
* coderus sorry ._.12:26
thargorI was just about to ask this question ;-)12:27
thargorI only get the 3G sign with an exclamation mark (same as wifi12:28
thargorno idea?12:29
thargoris there a possibility to get the rpm for developer mode?12:30
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thargornow I got the error (got a connection for some time) Problem while installation (jolla-developer-mode)12:34
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thargorwhen I select this message the store opens with the message (jolla-developer-mode not found)12:34
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thargorI'm able to install application from the store therefore could it be that there is a problem with the jolla-developer-mode package on the jolla servers?12:37
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thargorcan someone check if he's able to enable developer mode?12:38
* Teme is not going to touch it while it still works ._.12:39
Nightmare__deactivated and activated again: no problem12:40
thargorok, then its a local problem (located on my phone) ;-(12:41
thargoror probably in front of the phone :-D12:42
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Nightmare__or maybe my phone had that rpm somewhere in a cache12:43
Accethe problem with technology is that no amount of software or hardware can repair the user :P12:44
thargortrue true Acce12:44
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thargorbut then I've currently a communication issue with my device. Without developer mode its hard to judge if I'm wrong or if there's somewhere else a problem ;-)12:45
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netzviehgetting that rpm is possible12:48
netzviehit has some depedencies though and I'm not sure which are already installed and which are not12:48
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netzviehrpm without proper frontend is really a dependency hell12:51
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thargoryes, thats true12:54
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thargordo you know how the dependency handling is when you try to install the rpm via gui?12:54
netzviehhmm I'm not sure12:55
thargorthats currently the only possibility I see without resetting the device. I tried to connect to e different wifi but no connection was possible (I think security settings in this case)12:55
netzviehhave you another phone to span up a wifi and tether?12:56
thargorI'll with another wifi later today... but would be interesting to find a solution for finding a root cause12:56
netzvieh*do you have12:56
netzviehwell the problem is default journald settings are not helping debugging12:57
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netzviehI think it's just 1MB worth of logs it keeps12:57
netzviehand that's not much12:57
netzviehreminds me, I have to set that up again after I reset12:58
thargorbut debugging on network layer should be a possibility because I think the problem is that my network connection is not stable12:58
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netzviehhttps://gist.github.com/netzvieh/d553d9a461eb808ed51b that's just for the dev mode rpm. fingerterm and openssh are not installed before, and they have quite a lot of dependencies as well, so if the gui uses rpm and not pkcon thats bad13:01
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Tememy jolla just made the "message received beep" with no activity :(13:05
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PlntTeme: isn't it related to this bug? https://together.jolla.com/question/35399/beep-is-played-in-messaging-instead-of-configured-sound/ .. but seems like something different probably13:07
thargornetzvieh only with rpm I think its almost impossible :-(13:08
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TemePlnt: i did not receive any message whatsoever13:10
thargorbut I found probably a bug which meets my behaviour (the blinking started before minutes ;-))"[BUG] Green led blinking, phone yammed"13:10
Temethe sound was as if i got a message on FB13:10
netzviehthargor: well the rpm has a propietary license so I can't upload it anyway :/13:11
Temei could not give less of a f*** what the sounds is as long as it only beeps when i get a message :P13:11
Temebut scratching it off as a one time incident13:11
thargornetzvieh thanks for the help anyway... I hope I get the chance to dig a little bit deeper in this problem13:12
netzviehthargor: no prolem :) but I think I'll build a meta rpm to see what's used in the gui13:14
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AcceTeme: I'm having that too13:26
xmlich02Hi, my device turned off without obvious reason. http://pastebin.com/F1TnWwPz Stskeeps13:26
Accemostly it's emails that don't appear in notifications13:26
Stskeepsxmlich02: cat /proc/lastlog/*13:26
Accewhen I look at the email program, there is new messages13:26
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xmlich02Stskeeps, no such file or directory http://pastebin.com/P6NZFN8L13:27
Stskeepsxmlich02: ok13:27
Stskeepsxmlich02: i'm a bit puzzled since it looks like a controlled reboot13:27
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xmlich02It just turned off. I had to turn it on manually13:28
Stskeepshmm13:28
pp_heh, mine seems to be abnormal :P (can't remember the last boot tho :-) )13:30
pp_out of battery, maybe13:31
thargorI just recognized that it could be that there is problem on provider side... very hard to isolate my issue :-(13:31
xmlich02The device was connected in SDK mode. I was deploying new version of foursail app.13:33
Stskeepsxmlich02:  over usb or wifi13:33
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xmlich02usb13:34
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CoderCandyOkay, sent a mail to care@jolla.com13:39
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TemeAcce: only configured email is my Gmail and i can see from its webui that there a no new messages13:41
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Temealthough i already had one mail that i received the notification from earlier in the morning, was too lazy to clear the notifications though13:42
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Temeand is the email sounds by default the same as message sound?13:42
Accefor me it seems to be13:42
Temecan't recall how it sounds to receive an email :P13:42
Acceme neither, I have the phone silenced almost always13:43
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AcceMaybe it plays the sound when refreshing the mailbox if you have unread mail there?13:50
Acceunread mail, which you already cleared notifications for13:50
oh8gnzPnuu: atm 165 mW (12h avg)13:51
CoderCandy... man care@jolla.com are fast!13:52
Pnuuoh8gnz: that's low :-)13:53
CoderCandy... how am I supposed to test the reboot bug on wifi-only?13:54
CoderCandyI never use my jolla on wifi...13:54
CoderCandyI pretty much only use my jolla on 3G13:54
Accemy 24h avg is about 300mW :/13:54
CoderCandyI guess I can watch netflix on the bathroom?13:54
oh8gnzPnuu: i'm at work so usage is mostly idling and email bringing from two sources13:54
oh8gnzPnuu: sometimes irc via terminal13:55
CoderCandyI really feel bad for Jolla about this reboot thing13:55
CoderCandyIt's one of those baby-faults you just don't want.13:56
oh8gnzCoderCandy: reboot thing? what kind of reboot thing you have (maybe asked this before)13:56
CoderCandyUhm, randomly shuts down and reboots?13:56
CoderCandyLike showing the jolla13:56
CoderCandylogo13:56
netzviehwell why do I have a average value for 168h when I just installed it an hour ago? oO13:57
CoderCandyoh8gnz: and yes I've tried to pull out the battery, and also after last update13:57
CoderCandyAnd I even tried to downgrade to 2.513:57
CoderCandyI think I have faulty hardware13:57
CoderCandyAnd I can live with some hardware bugs13:57
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StskeepsCoderCandy: when did it last happen for you?13:57
CoderCandyLast night13:57
Stskeepsrebooted since?13:58
Stskeepsas in, turned off device, etc13:58
Stskeepsif it has been up since, cat /proc/cmdline please13:58
CoderCandyhold on13:58
CoderCandyI need to be root... and my password is not touch-friendly13:59
CoderCandyokay13:59
CoderCandyI catted it13:59
CoderCandyI'll put the output to a file and upload it14:00
Stskeepsk14:00
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CoderCandyStskeeps: http://hastebin.com/solijewiri.avrasm14:03
CoderCandythis link is probably better http://hastebin.com/raw/solijewiri14:03
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Stskeepshmm ok14:04
CoderCandyWhat are we looking at?14:04
Stskeepspuzzlement14:04
CoderCandyHuh?14:04
Stskeepsjust something i didn't expect to see there, i had expected to see something else :)14:05
Stskeepsmoment14:05
CoderCandyHAH! My phone is apparently not as everyone elses rebooting phone! I'm special!14:05
Eztrannah, he's someone else :)14:06
StskeepsCoderCandy: you're on 1.0.4. right14:06
CoderCandyStskeeps: yup14:06
CoderCandyBut I had reboots on 2.5, 3.8 and now 4.2014:07
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oh8gnznetzvieh: I think it will show real 168h avg after 168h but now it somekind multiplies the hour count for that14:12
TemeAcce: i did not clear the notification nor read the email14:13
netzviehoh8gnz: ah I see, thanks14:13
Temeand i think the refresh rate is set to 30min and it only did the extra beep once14:13
oh8gnzsame it is in here14:14
oh8gnz165mW if I put it to 168h14:14
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oh8gnzso it gives ~5h avg as 168h and it gets more and more accurate after every hour14:15
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AcceTeme: hmm.. no idea what is going on then, but it definitely seems to be a bug14:27
Temecan't reproduce so won't complain further :)14:27
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Mordaehi15:38
MordaeI've had 4 spontaneous reboots in the past two days.15:39
MordaeIn my case, Jolla does not always come up by itself, but needs to be started.15:40
AL13N_workAard: irl bluetooth stuff, your reply, i assume you mean that you have several things ready-ish that need certification and need to find out what will be certified?15:40
MordaeIs there any way I can gather more data? Enable saving journal files? Something?15:41
AardAL13N_work: something like that, yes15:42
AL13N_workok thanks, we'll find out, though i'm sure this will take quite some time, so at least several months until we get to see it on-device15:44
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Nightmare__are you talking about a certification by Bluetooth Special Interest Group?15:47
AL13N_workAard: btw: the other day, i was thinking about upgrades and trusted software and such, and i think that you should really disable all repos, except the 5, and all 5 must be ok, before actually doing upgrades, this means QA is less work and upgrades will normally never fail, (after update, just re-enable the last state)... couple this with having trusted software and a QA rpm key for the apps...15:47
flanagMordae: have you done the battery trick?15:47
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AL13N_workSage-: for wifi, i'm gonna do some tests on other wifi APs, and see what happens... if i really get dups on all, then i'll contact care, but i would like to avoid it.15:49
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AL13N_workPS: Sage-: Aard: Stskeeps: https://together.jolla.com/question/36250/disable-mobile-only-when-wifi-is-actually-connected/15:52
AL13N_workwould be nice to have a confirmation if this is a connman feature... that way, we know if community can fix it itself15:53
AardAL13N_work: this was introduced in update4 already15:53
AL13N_workAard: hmm, in that case, it's not working quite well...15:54
AL13N_worki only had mobile data since update4, so15:55
Aardhe repo stuff15:55
AL13N_workAard: it seems mobile data disconnects when wifi is connected, (not when dhcp actually gives ip)15:55
AL13N_workah15:56
AL13N_workthe repo stuff15:56
AL13N_workgotcha15:56
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CoderCandyLet's see how long I can IRC now...16:01
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Mordaeflanag: couple of times, yes16:14
flanagMordae: so full 10 minutes?16:14
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Mordaeflanag: sigh, will try, but the time you people advise is getting longer every day16:15
MordaeWhat's the official reason anyway?16:16
flanagwhat's the longest time you have kept the battery off earlier?16:16
CoderCandyAre we talking about reboot bug again?16:16
flanagyes16:16
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Mordae5 minutes, hit power button several times during that time, removed SD and SIM just in case16:17
CoderCandyAh, it's possible it won't help Mordae, it didn't work for me.16:17
MordaeWe are two with the problem here.16:17
CoderCandyMe and Stskeeps did some debugging on my phone earlier, as far as I know we didn't come up with anythong conclusive.16:17
MordaeIt started with last update (or new SIM) for me.16:18
MordaeFriend had the problem earlier and update helped him a bit.16:18
CoderCandyanything*16:18
Eztranthe reboot problem seems to be one of the 'whack-a-mole' kinda bugs, get rid of it in some devices and it pops up in others.16:19
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CoderCandyHehe, yeah16:19
CoderCandyMordae: if you have the same problem as me (the same cause that is) the sim is not the problem.16:20
flanagI hope I'll never see a reboot again.. I had one reboot after the 1.0.4.20 update but then I did the battery trick and haven't seen a reboot again.. I just hope it really helped16:20
CoderCandySince I reboot without activating sim-card and just use wifi.16:20
CoderCandyflanag: best of luck.16:20
flanagthanks16:20
CoderCandyToday I've had.... well over 10 reboots I think.16:21
flanagwhaat16:21
EztranOuch!16:21
PnuuMordae:16:21
Pnuu15:04 < Stskeeps> flanag: think for a moment about your phone - it's off, but wh16:21
Pnuuat listens to the power button?16:21
Pnuu15:04 < Stskeeps> flanag: there's a chip handling power that's always on; and it has state of it's own16:21
Pnuu15:04 < Stskeeps> 10 minutes makes sure that we try to kill that as well as we can16:21
CoderCandyNah, it's good16:21
CoderCandyIt helped with debugging16:21
Eztranat least it appeared when trying to debug it, I guess :)16:22
CoderCandyBasically, as soon as I activated wifi/3g reboit16:22
CoderCandyreboot16:22
CoderCandyWhen debug session was over I did battery trick and phone has been stable since.16:22
flanagCoderCandy: have you ever had the Jolla enter a boot loop which is solved by taking the other half off?16:22
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MordaeCoderCandy: It seems to me that it is somehow related to GSM, since I often get reboots in problematic spots. Bad signal, temporary BTS in front of the window, soon after wakeup.16:23
CoderCandyBut yeah, it is only stable for a day, tops.16:23
CoderCandySometimes just a few hours.16:23
CoderCandyI still think it's a power consumption problem, I'll do some testing for it once I get home16:24
CoderCandyflanag: no, I've had boot loops but not OH related16:24
CoderCandyMordae: not for me, I had reboots with inactive sim card.16:25
CoderCandyThat is, didn't enter pin code and activated wifi.16:25
MordaeCoderCandy: I compiled Python3 on the phone, last release, looong before the last update. No crash at maxxed out power consumption.16:25
CoderCandyHmm...16:25
CoderCandyMordae: but the effects are cumulative16:26
CoderCandyThat is, after first reboot, next one takes less to trigger16:26
Sailor4711stskeeps: is it bootu _reason-code you were interested in, for devices booting randomly?16:26
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MordaeCoderCandy: It might be a coincidence: conditions stilm hold. Or not and it's an cummumative problem.16:28
Mordaestill*16:28
Sailor4711stskeeps: the one I have now is: 0xF67B9BEB16:28
CoderCandyMordae: what would those conditions be?16:29
MordaeCoderCandy: Sigh. I'll try ten minutes for now and wait for more info.16:29
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CoderCandySailor4711: Stskeeps is having dinner :p16:29
flanagmy reboots were always connected to connectivity in some way I think.. at some point the Jolla was repeatedly rebooting (after entering the PIN always again).. I skipped the pin, went to settings and enabled the SIM from there.. rebooted again.. then I just skipped the PIN again and waited for some time before trying again and then it worked16:29
MordaeCoderCandy: Probably temperature, radios around...16:30
MordaeCoderCandy: GSM signalling traffic...16:31
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CoderCandyMordae: but I wasn't even using my sim-card.16:31
CoderCandyThat's what is odd16:31
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MordaeI know, I have no idea how those chips work when without SIM.16:32
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CoderCandyHmm, I'll do some more testing on that when I get home.16:33
flanagthere might be two seperate issues, for some people it's the connectivity (maybe mostly fixed with 1.0.4.20?) and for some people it's something power related (they have been issuing new batteries from service)16:33
CoderCandyFlight mode disables the radio completely.16:33
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Sailor4711stskeeps: no probs, enjoy :)16:33
CoderCandySo if it still occurs in flight mode the problem is not related to radio signals.16:34
CoderCandyflanag: possibly, I've been looking for how to get a new battery, for testing that theory.16:36
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m4g0ghi18:57
m4g0gguys, my jolla very often restarts and shutdons. As I understand it linked with network connections. Is it a way to fix it or may be I should reflesh/reinstall sailfish&18:58
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tbrm4g0g: did you try removing the battery for 10min?19:07
m4g0gyes19:07
m4g0gI did this 5 or 7 times for last 2 weeks19:07
messertingI also had this problem19:08
tbrfascinating, I never had that problem19:08
messertingI did remove battery for 10 min +, and upgraded19:08
messertinghave not had the problem since19:08
messertingmight be just lucky19:08
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flanagmesserting: same here, no problems since those procedures19:09
m4g0gtbr: I never had this problem before last update19:09
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EztranThe latest update fixed some reboot issues, at least. Though, it appears, not all, and some people have reported reboots only since the update.19:09
m4g0gHow I can back jolla to original state and do all (include upgrade) from very beginning?19:09
* messerting thinks Jolla should provide some logger app, that picks up what is happening...19:09
m4g0git depends on network connections. If it low - reboot/halt comes19:10
Morpog_messerting, it seems they are working on a crash reporter + ui for it19:10
messertinggreat19:11
messertingit would help a lot to find out what apps were running, active connections etc19:11
messertingbtw, I think that after last update, I now have mobile data connection set to active (in settings), ie. automatic switching between wlan and mobile19:12
messertingthat will increase the bill, but might be why the phone works properly19:13
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Eztranm4g0g: if you do want to do that factory reset, see https://together.jolla.com/question/22079/howto-all-pc-users-recover-or-reset-a-device-that-is-stuck-in-boot-loop/ for instructions.19:13
messertingbut I now find that my phone is on mobile data network when I am inside my own house. Probably because of poor wlan coverage19:14
Eztranthough use option 1 rather than 5 as they do there, I think.19:14
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m4g0gSo,should I after reset remove battery and after that update software or first of all update and then remove battery?19:43
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Gordon`Stskeeps: Hi, I’m having reboots. Can I paste my /proc/cmdline in /query?20:26
Stskeepsyou can try20:27
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Quudo or do not, there is no try20:30
Gordon`done20:31
Gordon`Stskeeps: as usual, when I do not enter PIN code, there are no reboots20:31
Stskeepsok20:31
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Nightmare__is someone of you using my TabaTimer app?20:36
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m4g0gdoes reset to defaults can help with reboots issue?20:43
Gordon`m4g0g: I don’t think so20:44
Gordon`I did that before the update, and the reboots came back immediately20:44
Stskeepsbasically20:44
Stskeepspull battery 10 mins, if they persist beyond that, talk to care20:44
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CvP_nightmare, me not, but will test it :)20:48
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Nightmare__CvP_, thx, i'm wondered because everyone is complaining in harbour about non existent sounds, but on my phone i have them21:19
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CvP_nightmate..21:32
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Nightmare__?21:36
M4rtinKLOL :)21:37
M4rtinKalmost bash-worthy :)21:37
CvP_nothtmare, if i have the app open, the Sound is good, of i have in Stand by, than the sound is gone exept all 15/20 seconds21:39
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sharpneliPrelink binary seems to be available in the repos but it doesn't currently do anything. Is this intentional?21:56
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Nightmare__CvP_, thx, did you install harbour 1.2 or openrepos 1.3?22:01
CvP_open22:01
CvP_nightmare22:01
Nightmare__h,22:01
Nightmare__hm22:01
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Nightmare__at least there is sound :D22:02
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CvP_nightmare can you port hyperion to sailfish? :)22:05
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Nightmare__what is it? :)22:07
B0n0NLIs there already a soundcloud app on Sailfish?22:08
CvP_b0n0NL nope22:08
B0n0NLRead somthing about Musikloud but nothing seen yet.22:09
B0n0NLto bad22:09
CvP_nightmare: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nl.hyperion.hyperionfree&hl=de22:10
B0n0NLjust need to be patient....22:10
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sharpneliHas strace package been removed from the target HW?22:11
CvP_yeah the guy who release musicload sell it on meego, but in sailfish there is no payment22:11
B0n0NLyet...22:11
B0n0NLthey really need to introduce it22:12
Nightmare__oh thats cool, but no :D22:12
B0n0NLit will boost the store22:12
B0n0NLand the platform22:12
CvP_nightmare :( pls22:12
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Nightmare__would if i could :D22:13
Nightmare__btw is there somewhere a german jolla/sailfish channel?22:14
CvP_kein plan :(22:14
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sharpneliWhy is strace been removed? I had to copy the strace from the SDK manually to the device22:22
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sharpneliAnd the rpm spec file is broken too it seems22:22
sharpneliOr I just suck at messing with em (dpkg ftw!)22:22
stephgsharpneli, removed?22:23
stephg[nemo@localhost ~]$ which strace22:23
stephg/usr/bin/strace22:23
stephgis in mer-tools iirc22:23
sharpnelistephg: [nemo@localhost ~]$ strace22:24
sharpneli-bash: strace: command not found22:24
sharpneliSo mer-tools repo is not just enabled by default on the device anymore?22:24
stephgthe user always had to enable it22:24
stephg(I think I'm right?)22:25
sharpneliI had it on my default before the previous factory reset22:25
sharpneliI thought it came with dev mode just like gdb and whatnot stuff22:25
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B0n0NLbye bye guys22:25
B0n0NLand girls22:26
stephgnight B0n0NL22:26
stephgsharpneli, hang on a sec22:26
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