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| tehdely | anyone running sailfish 1.0 on their n9? | 04:24 |
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| coderus | tehdely: #sailfishos channel | 08:04 |
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| * stephg wants a carbon fibre ToH | 09:16 | |
| * kimmoli wants too | 09:16 | |
| stephg | did I see it on your twitter this morning | 09:17 |
| stephg | saw it on someones | 09:17 |
| kimmoli | there was ebay link also | 09:17 |
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| kimmoli | stephg: afaik this has been used http://www.ebay.it/itm/251075719612?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649 | 09:20 |
| kimmoli | it is the same used on italian sports-cars ? :P | 09:21 |
| stephg | haha | 09:21 |
| stephg | looks like it still needs a 'finish' though | 09:21 |
| stephg | I want my carbon fibre to have the pattern but also lacquer so it's shiny and smoooooooooth ;) | 09:22 |
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| tronicum | want a solar charger toh | 09:43 |
| tronicum | better than my qi charger hack | 09:43 |
| tronicum | https://twitter.com/jollakraut/status/444563271828635648 | 09:44 |
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| tronicum | pretty cheap foil http://www.amazon.de/Struktur-selbstklebend-Carbonfolie-folieren-Klebefolie/dp/B005YJMHEO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1396086311&sr=8-1&keywords=carbon | 09:46 |
| tronicum | 6,90€ for 10x15 cm | 09:46 |
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| Grauwolf | hm. what to use when a package is available at both, pkcon and zypper? when should i use one instead of the other? | 10:13 |
| Stskeeps | generally don't use zypper | 10:14 |
| Stskeeps | pkcon is the proper way | 10:14 |
| Stskeeps | pkcon uses libzypp within a daemon and does a few extra checks | 10:14 |
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| Grauwolf | ah ok. thx | 10:17 |
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| coderus | please vote if like: https://together.jolla.com/question/36836/force-complete-remorse-countdown/ | 10:31 |
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| Nicd- | Sailfish hack day! | 10:52 |
| ggabriel | \o/ | 10:52 |
| Nicd- | let's do this | 10:52 |
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| Tumeez | Hm. | 15:11 |
| Tumeez | Double Tap not work again | 15:11 |
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| pdanek | Tumeez: sometimes it doesn't work for me as well, for unlock | 15:25 |
| pdanek | So I have to unlock with power button, and and then it'll start working again | 15:26 |
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| spider-mario | when the phone is plugged in and turned off, I find it really hard to turn it back on | 16:44 |
| spider-mario | because of the animation | 16:44 |
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| Bernte | Can I install Google Play on Jolla? | 16:55 |
| tbr | yes | 16:55 |
| Bernte | And will the Android world be nicely sandboxed that I won't have access to my important data? | 16:56 |
| ggabriel | define "important data" | 16:56 |
| Bernte | Location, Phonebook, other stuff on my HD | 16:56 |
| ggabriel | not sure it will prevent all that, you may be able to configure some things | 16:57 |
| ggabriel | ofc the "other stuff" part is a bit ambiguous | 16:57 |
| Bernte | Android apps get more and more greedy on my data, and one only had the choice to allow access or avoid install. | 16:58 |
| Bernte | Sorry for being to unspecific, but I at some time I had found out that my Google Nexus had uploaded my whole phonebook to the Google Cloud, though I never consented to that ... | 16:59 |
| Bernte | I would like to avoid that kind of experience and hope that going with Jolla and SailfishOS might be an improvement. | 17:00 |
| mord | alien dalvik isn't a solution to sandbox apps that want to know everything there is to know on your phone per se | 17:00 |
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| tbr | Bernte: then don't run google services, at all. | 17:01 |
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| mord | it's possible it could be used to tell those apps they have those perms without actually providing them data but i don't think anything like that is implemented so far | 17:01 |
| Bernte | tbr, this is a tough one, so many services need them. | 17:01 |
| Bernte | mord, that is what I was hoping for. | 17:02 |
| tbr | Bernte: chose which way you die, then | 17:02 |
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| mord | Bernte: given that alien dalvik is comparable to a chroot anyway i'm not entirely sure what data of native sailfish apps the android apps running "in" it can actually access and/or utilise anyway | 17:15 |
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| mord | so it would seem you're mostly in risk of sharing data of other android apps, not those of sailfish proper | 17:17 |
| mord | i do not definitely /know/ this is the case though, just seems likely | 17:20 |
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| Bernte | mord, thanks ... I will have a look. | 17:21 |
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| coderus | Bernte: once you installed google play services you can't control them | 17:27 |
| coderus | install amazon appsote and install apps from it | 17:28 |
| coderus | it doesnt require google play services :) | 17:28 |
| coderus | Amazon Appstore * | 17:28 |
| coderus | and free app every day. at this week i got Office Suite Pro 7 for free | 17:30 |
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| mornfall | coderus: what do you do with an office suite on a phone? :-) | 17:41 |
| coderus | no idea | 17:42 |
| coderus | just installed it | 17:42 |
| ggabriel | you can make nice presentations and even nicer spreadsheets | 17:42 |
| coderus | i can install last version any time on any future android phone for free | 17:43 |
| coderus | as it saved in my amazon account | 17:43 |
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| svuorela | coderus: did yuou try the jolla document viewer? | 17:58 |
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| coderus | svuorela: no | 17:59 |
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| Nicd- | thanks for the hack day cybette & tbr :) | 20:36 |
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| Nicd- | hope it's possible to arrange a new one soon | 20:36 |
| Nicd- | or maybe even a 24 hour sailfish hackathon! | 20:37 |
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| Acce | 24 hours sounds nice :) | 21:13 |
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