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kimmolii missed this hackday, hope the next one is already in planning...05:26
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AL13NSage-: ping08:56
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AL13NSage-: i notice that wlan is doing constantly direct scans for all remembered wlans?08:57
AL13NSage-: wouldn't it be better to scan passively (broadcast) instead of that, with once in a while a direct scan of remembered wlans?08:57
AL13Nand, when actually connected, to scan less frequently unless a beacon has been dropped?08:58
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AL13Nthat is to say, when associated, it would seem to be more efficient to scan the the essid, (in case you move into a region with a different bssid having the same essid and higher quality?09:00
AL13Niinm this kind of approach would probably draw less power and have a bit higher throughput of data09:01
AL13N(or possibly less collisions)09:01
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sardinihello, why is 'import  QtGraphicalEffects 1.0' don't working anymore ?10:24
Yanieldefine "don't working"10:24
sardinizypper in qt5-qtgraphicaleffects  tell me is ok and installed10:24
Yanieland this is more a question for #sailfishos10:25
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sardiniYaniel, underligned on qtcreator and an error at compil10:25
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ggabrielo/10:25
YanielI still don't know anything about the problem10:25
sardinimodule "QtGraphicalEffects" is not installed10:25
sardiniI need/want use:  RectangularGlow{}10:27
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Yanielis it installed on the emulator or sdk vm?10:28
sardinion both10:28
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sardiniit's ok now, need to restart the vm ... Don't ask me why, I don't know :)10:30
sardinithank you Yaniel10:30
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Accewas the lipstick "Fatal error in CALL_AND_RETRY_0 allocation failed - process out of memory" already a known problem?11:08
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Accewhat about the screen randomly turning off and back on?11:13
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Yanielif it is related to lipstick crashing, yes11:13
Yaniel(red/green fast blinking)11:13
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Acceyeah, lipstick crashed, and after it got back up, the screen goes black randomly when used11:14
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Yanielinteresting11:17
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Acceyeah, nothing in the logs though.. probably some aftermath of the memory being too full11:21
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coderusMitakuuluu update v0.2-7. More cover actions, more options, more translation strings!11:57
PeperJohnnyNice, thank you coderus11:58
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hene-coderus, nice, thanks!11:59
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Azogthp: gpodder does not resume at the last position, is that a known problem?12:30
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joldaranyone here know how to add hebrew/arabic support to sailfish?12:39
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tbrjoldar: what in particular?12:41
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kimmoliTJC vote-up request... this makes me so angry sometimes; https://together.jolla.com/question/33333/bug-call-out-of-recent-call-list-can-switch-to-wrong-number-reproducable/12:46
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AL13Nkimmoli: what specifically makes you angry?13:51
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AL13Nit's annoying when i have a contact that has a landline and mobile and i have no idea which i'm calling from the last list... cause i see 2 items for that contact, identically named. and while calling it's also not visible13:53
kimmoliAL13N just that. I hade my friends door-code in contact, i was trying to call to that...14:04
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junnuvikimmoli: how about disablig "fast dial" from settings?14:08
kimmolithen it opens contact-card, hihghlight first number of that contact, not the one where the call was from. that is what the TJC 33333 is all about14:10
junnuvisettings -> application -> phone .. (I'm not sure what it is if you phone language is english, but in finnish it's "soitto saman tien" :)14:10
junnuviah sorry I havent read that TJC..14:10
kimmolithe "soitto saman tien", both active/disabled - has pros and cons14:11
junnuvinow I have and understand what is problem :)14:12
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coderusjoldar: Schturman know. he is using arabic in Jolla15:09
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VenemoAL13N: yeah that annoys me too15:28
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cvphi :)16:07
Nicd-hey cvp16:07
Nicd-I'm supposed to return an English assignment today, but school systems are down16:08
Nicd-so Sailfish coding it is then \o/16:08
Acce:D16:08
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cvpNicd-: and what do you coding ? :D16:09
Nicd-cvp: WeeCRApp16:09
cvpwhat a crapp app ? :D16:09
cvpno .... but what is it ?16:10
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Nicd-WeeChat Relay App16:11
Nicd-a native GUI for the WeeChat IRC client16:11
cvpok i will check16:13
Nicd-it's not public yet16:13
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Nicd-WeeChat is though (not made by me)16:13
cvpok its a irc client with a bit more features :)16:15
cvpfile transfer possible ? : )16:15
Nicd-well, the client is not running on the device16:16
Nicd-WeeChat runs on a server, the client just runs a GUI (WeeCRApp) which connects to the server16:17
cvpah ok16:17
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Nicd-my aim is to make IRCing more convenient than with FingerTerm16:19
Nicd-time will tell how well I'll succeed16:19
cvpwe will see, good luck :)16:19
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coderususe profanity.im16:25
Nicd-what does that have to do with my app though?16:26
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pahartikNicd-: It sounds interesting16:27
Nicd-pahartik: hey, I saw you yesterday16:27
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pahartikNicd-: That is most likely if you were at local "Jolla and Sailfish hack day" event16:31
Nicd-yep, I was the WeeChat client guy16:31
pahartikNicd-: Very good16:34
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pahartikNicd-: Do you know who I am due to badge I was wearing?16:37
Nicd-yep16:37
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* pahartik upgaded "Sailfish Linux" to latest version 1.0.4.20 early today16:41
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coderusNicd-: its not about your app :)16:55
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Nicd-don't really see the value of profanity.im, I use bitlbee for xmpp so I can use my IRC client17:00
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TemeV_I like using znc and irc for sailfish. Nicer to use than Fingerterm, but weechat and native ui for it would be more sophisticated solution :)17:16
Nicd-I hope I can make it convenient for people to use17:17
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Kiranosquasseldroid for android works great for irc on jolla17:26
Nicd-in theory my app could be extended to support quassel as well17:27
Nicd-at least I'm aiming for such modularity17:27
Kiranosthat would be nice17:27
Kiranoswould be good to be able to multitask it17:27
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Kiranosand see status still now you can just have one android app at a time17:28
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Nicd-I can confirm now that the yellow blinking led never stops even though the incoming email was read with another device and the notification is removed17:48
Nicd-happened twice today17:48
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BysmyyrI got very brilliant idea: https://together.jolla.com/question/36969/release-locked-orientation/17:58
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clauin case anyone wants to know, ordering a Jolla now is really fast. I made the order on Monday and by Thursday it was already in country, though the bastards from FedEx take more time to deliverit in country than internationally. I should get it tomorrow.18:35
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stephgNicd- about the email thing, how do you mean 'when the notification is removed'18:36
Accestephg: no notification in the events screen18:36
stephgi.e. if I check my mail on my computer,  then wake the jolla, I still have 68 unread mails (on jolla, but deleted in IMAP)18:37
stephgafter that, no more blinky18:37
AcceDon't know if the symptoms are exactly the same, but I occasionally get vibration alert + blinking, when I turn the screen on, no notifications18:38
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clauAcce, I got it too.18:39
clausince latest update.18:39
AcceI usually have had some unread mails after this, if I go and check the email app18:39
claubut, I didn't touch the emails by other means, if I recall.18:39
Acceyeah, probably something to do how they sync the emails18:40
clauit's just that I get sound + led, and I check it immediately and the events screen is completely empty.18:40
clauwhen I check the email app I can see the new unread email(s)18:40
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stephgyou all imap or gmail or what18:46
stephgthere could be all sorts of stuff underneath that cause differing behaviour18:46
claugmail imap, yes18:47
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claubut, why would I get just sound+led?18:47
claubtw, it happened just a few times. generally it works correctly.18:47
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stephgdunno, tempted to say works for me, but then I disregard more or less everything the LED does unless it's blue18:49
stephgor red, but that's different ;)18:49
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pahartiktbr: You did give instructions of how to use "sailfishos:chum:1.0.4.20" at event yesterday?18:54
tbrpahartik: as a user? something like "ssu ar chum $repourl"18:55
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tbrpahartik: lbt said something about about chum:latest being workable too now18:56
pahartiktbr: I was wondering if I should submit packages I constructed, to it18:56
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lbttbr: I think we should keep chum based on numeric versions18:56
lbtbut people can use sailfishos:latest for ease of use18:57
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lbthmm18:57
lbtI think we need a chum repo in ssu.ini which uses the version number18:58
tbrlbt: ah, so the build target is available as latest but chum should not? I'll trust you on that. I just need to understand it properly18:58
lbtyeah - I've not fully thought it through18:58
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pahartiktbr: I have stuff at "home:pahartik", not sure if they are good enough for some larger audience, but they work for me19:02
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tbrpahartik: well, if you have installed/uninstalled, tested the packages, you can SR them. There is a way through osc and through the web interface19:04
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pahartiktbr: Is it appropriate to use "Debian GNU/Linux" source packages as source?19:10
tbrpahartik: that will hardly work, you need RPMs...19:11
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pahartiktbr: No, I mean that sources that I use are from Debian archive mirror19:12
pahartiktbr: Then I just wrote "specfile" for each19:13
tbrpahartik: why not upstream?19:13
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Quuwhy not zoidberg19:13
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Nicd-stephg: when I read the email on my computer, Jolla will sync the read status and remove the notification about new email19:15
pahartiktbr: It is easy to get with "apt-get source", and I assume Debian to have sane version19:15
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Nicd-stephg: but the LED will keep blinking19:15
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coderusMitakuuluu v0.2-8. New media select row style and bugfixies19:19
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pahartiktbr: I am asking since I mostly know how to use "osc" but not sure about what is appropriate19:20
Quucoderus: fast updates today :)19:21
claucool, thanks coderus19:22
coderusQuu: just bugfixies and silica hacking :)19:22
claugoing to update shortly19:22
Nicd-updated19:22
Nicd-the new pushupmenu is cool19:23
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tbrpahartik: as long as the sources are identical to those of upstream there is no difference, but please note that RPM specs exist for many packages, most of the time along with sources or a mechanism to obtain them automatically from upstream.19:26
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tbrso writing it from scratch just for the sake of it does not make sense19:26
clauyep, the menu is very nice19:26
pahartiktbr: Acknowledged19:27
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stephgNicd-, ok20:08
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stephgI shall try to reproduce in the morning, let's try and keep VDVsx's work to a minimum20:10
cvpcoderus nice work :)20:12
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stephg;)20:19
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ggabrielno bind-tools in mer-tools :(20:20
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stephgggabriel, dig is on openrepos irrc20:48
ggabrielyeah, i'll pass on openrepos for the time being20:48
ggabrieli'll test some other way ;-)20:49
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stephgwell I don't use warehouse myself but a handful of from there I do use20:50
stephgbut bind-utils sholuld be safe20:50
stephgor worse case build it yourself20:51
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ggabrieli think i'm gonna have to start bootstrapping the sdk to build stuff like this20:51
stephgsomeone may have one build on obs20:52
stephg(if you trust that more than openrepos)20:52
ggabrieltrue, so i need to learn all about it ;-)20:52
ggabrieli'll wait for a rainy day20:52
ggabrielweather is too good these days20:52
stephghehe20:53
stephgyes20:53
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stephgggabriel, when you do, write it up, blog about it20:56
ggabrielsomebody needs to do that, right? :)20:59
ggabrieljust don't hold your breath20:59
ggabrieli've got as many open projects as ff tabs20:59
ggabrieland i have a lot of ff tabs20:59
ggabrielanyway, later20:59
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stephghehe21:02
stephgok well is bed time here too21:02
stephgcatch you and everyone in the morning21:02
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clauggabriel, what are you afraid of more exactly? is it just about the possibility of messing the phone, or are you afraid of trojans/backdoors?21:09
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szopinLooks like I ran into btrfs balance issue when creating the chroot, system/about shows 7/13.7 used, but can't install anything more into the chroot. Anyone has experience with " btrfs blockgroup allocation problem."?21:14
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szopininteresting, in the 5 minutes from starting 'btrfs fi balance /home' 800mb somehow got added, system/about now whosing 7.8 used :/21:30
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szopinafter balancing 7.4 in about, with 9.07 GB used according to btrfs show weird21:45
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