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| raa70 | sweeet | 08:56 |
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| raa70 | openrepos has 0.6-6 | 08:59 |
| Nicd- | that was fast | 08:59 |
| SpeedEvil | http://xkcd.com/ | 09:01 |
| stephg | SpeedEvil: I want one | 09:04 |
| SpeedEvil | :) | 09:04 |
| jussi | hah! | 09:05 |
| ggabriel | i like the screm sound | 09:09 |
| entil | wappu celebration ended less than well, got my jolla stolen :( | 09:09 |
| Stskeeps | entil: ouch, hope you had a lock code on it | 09:09 |
| ggabriel | entil: :( | 09:09 |
| entil | heard the device can be bricked with the imei code, is that true? | 09:09 |
| entil | I called my operator and they said they don't do that, ask jolla or someone else | 09:10 |
| Stskeeps | you should report it as stolen with the IMEI at least; but we don't do remote shutdowns currently | 09:10 |
| entil | sure I had a lock code, and had the missus call the phone when we got home and I couldn't find it anywhere; it was turned off | 09:10 |
| Stskeeps | no lock code active? | 09:10 |
| Stskeeps | entil: if you had a lock code (i don't mean SIM PIN), the device is practically useless for it | 09:10 |
| Stskeeps | the thief, that is | 09:11 |
| entil | it should have been locked, but be it as it may, it was turned off when we noticed I didn't have it on me anymore | 09:11 |
| entil | therefore when it's turned on, it would prompt for the lock code | 09:11 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 09:11 |
| Stskeeps | unless you unlocked the bootloader, you should be safe | 09:11 |
| entil | nothing like that, nothing worse than installing the play store :) | 09:11 |
| Stskeeps | oki | 09:11 |
| Stskeeps | the thief has a nice brick then | 09:11 |
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| Stskeeps | you can always try to mail care@ about the issue, not sure if anybody registers that device shouldn't be serviced.. | 09:12 |
| entil | I'm hoping it's someone who's taking it to a lost and found service point for the finder's fee | 09:12 |
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| entil | the missus googled something about filing a police report and then the imei code gets sent to operators who block the phone | 09:14 |
| jussi | entil: Hope you get it back, always frustrating to have somehting taken/lost | 09:15 |
| entil | and this is the first time in my life I actually wish there was a cloud service that automatically had all my contacts and sms's and crap backed up | 09:15 |
| jussi | hehe | 09:15 |
| jussi | entil: they exist... just you havent used them... | 09:16 |
| Stskeeps | idle curiousity to you guys | 09:16 |
| entil | I have to admit I'm scared of eg. Google | 09:16 |
| Stskeeps | what is your EUR amount for something that's suitable for impulse buys of technology, if idea is good? | 09:16 |
| ggabriel | entil: you are talking about another kind of theft ;-) | 09:16 |
| entil | the Younited cloud should be nice, and there is the Jolla account but afaict it didn't do automatic cloud syncing | 09:16 |
| entil | ggabriel: hehe, the possibility of one, at least ;) | 09:17 |
| jussi | Stskeeps: depends on your economic status | 09:17 |
| entil | nsa backups can't be restored :( | 09:17 |
| entil | Stskeeps: depends on what jussi said and how relevant it is | 09:17 |
| Stskeeps | jussi: well, let's assume middle class | 09:17 |
| Stskeeps | (which is a very wide term) | 09:17 |
| entil | the jolla was almost an impulse buy, half-impulse, but I was needing a new phone and I love the Jolla guys etc | 09:17 |
| ggabriel | Stskeeps: no impulsive buys for me, unless I can eat it (I'm strange) | 09:17 |
| Stskeeps | in the US, 99 USD for something like apple tv is well within impulse buys | 09:17 |
| entil | I might spend 50e occasionally, though I impulse buy mainly CDs | 09:17 |
| Stskeeps | ggabriel: hmm :) | 09:17 |
| jussi | 100€, if its awesome. but not for me, my impuls buy level is no more than 40€ | 09:18 |
| Stskeeps | ggabriel: phone and free bigmac.. | 09:18 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 09:18 |
| ggabriel | Stskeeps: you may say that the jolla was impulsive, but I put some thought on it | 09:18 |
| ggabriel | fwiw, I have no problem spending ~500 EUR on something that you can get for ~100 EUR in china so long as it's cool, european, nice ethos and so on | 09:18 |
| ggabriel | but that's not necessarily impulsive | 09:19 |
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| ggabriel | impulsive for me is "uuuhhh, shiny shiny" :) | 09:19 |
| jussi | Stskeeps: honestly though, I think youll find many "middle class" (2 decent incomes, couple of kids) 100€ would be the level | 09:21 |
| stephg | yeah I'm with jussi, but it depends upon the circumstance | 09:22 |
| stephg | if it's 'right' I'd spend more | 09:22 |
| stephg | and the Jolla wasn't impulse. Buying it was MANDATORY | 09:22 |
| ggabriel | a 100 US$ apple tv on its own is useless too | 09:23 |
| ggabriel | i do remember people buying ipod nanos as they were paying for something else in the apple store | 09:23 |
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| jussi | Stskeeps: oh, and also, here in finland it depends on the level of markdown. if you take a €100 product, price it at 600€, mark it as 70% off, youll sell huge amounts! :P | 09:27 |
| stephg | I'm suprised noone has said anything yet, now that it's May | 09:28 |
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| ggabriel | has it been a year already? | 09:29 |
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| stephg | well I was talking about the thing that I'm not going to mention but it's getting near that time of month | 09:32 |
| kimmoli | starts with U ? | 09:33 |
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| kimmoli | it just start snowing here. it is that time of year | 09:33 |
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| ggabriel | no may14 tag in tjc tho | 09:34 |
| JvD_ | snowing? here in Espoo? | 09:35 |
| kimmoli | at least something that looks whiteish and did float around behinf my window. | 09:36 |
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| stephg | kimmoli: yeah that one ;) | 09:36 |
| stephg | kimmoli: that's blossom | 09:36 |
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| stephg | just keep telling yourself that | 09:36 |
| JvD_ | kwap | 09:37 |
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| kimmoli | heh. Installed weather Kaarna from store. First start - just died away showing just cover, 2nd start - green led blinks then asks lock code | 09:47 |
| stephg | that doesn't sound healthy | 09:47 |
| kimmoli | tihrd start ok | 09:48 |
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| kimmoli | something like this in journal lipstick[955]: Wayland display got fatal error -22: Tuntematon virhe -22 | 09:55 |
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| kimmoli | ooo someone works in harbour QA today ! Congratulations! Your app has been approved by Q | 10:11 |
| kimmoli | *A | 10:11 |
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| stephg | heebo? | 10:12 |
| kimmoli | yep | 10:13 |
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| KhertanAtwork | Hi, i ve clearly a problem with sdcard, sdcard is corrupted everytime (even if i didnt got sudden shutdown) fsck fix some things, but i ve often data losses, i use ext4 ... should i avoid ext4 and use other fs ? | 12:34 |
| KhertanAtwork | (sdcard didn't have problem on my lenovo) | 12:35 |
| KhertanAtwork | or could it be also an hw problem ? | 12:35 |
| Yaniel | is ccorrupted everytime ____ | 12:35 |
| Yaniel | ? | 12:35 |
| KhertanAtwork | everytime i want to transfer things on it, or listen music ... so it s ok for 1 or 2 hours, then corrupted | 12:36 |
| ggabriel | KhertanAtwork: did you try another card? | 12:36 |
| Yaniel | huhh | 12:37 |
| ggabriel | (and another reader, etc) | 12:37 |
| KhertanAtwork | didn't have other card | 12:37 |
| KhertanAtwork | cards works on other reader | 12:37 |
| KhertanAtwork | (my lenovo laptop, and m800 toshiba, and samsung n130) | 12:38 |
| ggabriel | but jolla corrupts it? | 12:38 |
| KhertanAtwork | ggabriel, look like | 12:38 |
| ggabriel | brand of the card? | 12:39 |
| KhertanAtwork | samsung | 12:39 |
| ggabriel | it coudl be the phone | 12:39 |
| ggabriel | you in .fi? | 12:40 |
| KhertanAtwork | nope :) | 12:40 |
| ggabriel | i'd try another card :) | 12:40 |
| KhertanAtwork | i should add it in the problem for the return | 12:40 |
| KhertanAtwork | phone will go to optima monday | 12:40 |
| ggabriel | you can also check journalctl to see if there are any errors | 12:40 |
| ggabriel | ok, then add it to the problem | 12:40 |
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| KhertanAtwork | ggabriel, nothing except mount and umount in journal due to fsck | 12:43 |
| KhertanAtwork | ggabriel, thanks | 12:43 |
| ggabriel | you're sure it's ext4 and not btrfs, right? | 12:44 |
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| Yaniel | ironically I haven't had any problems with the (still considered experimental) btrfs | 12:46 |
| KhertanAtwork | ggabriel, sure (i ve verifyed with df -T) | 12:46 |
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| nadriel | Aloha | 17:21 |
| Nichope | hi | 17:40 |
| Nichope | (nadriel) | 17:40 |
| * RzR got a j1 in my hand :) | 17:40 | |
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| Nichope | RzR: j1 = jolla, isn't it? | 17:42 |
| RzR | yea | 17:42 |
| Nichope | k, been out of IRC for a long time :P | 17:43 |
| nadriel | Me too | 17:43 |
| nadriel | Too lazy to login to remote server for screen that is always running irssi... | 17:43 |
| nadriel | Well, most of the time. | 17:44 |
| RzR | sugggest me some apps to install and test :) | 17:44 |
| nadriel | Developer mode | 17:44 |
| nadriel | >: ] | 17:44 |
| Nichope | in my case I was logged in just in case, but didn't look at the conversations | 17:44 |
| RzR | warehouse | 17:45 |
| nadriel | Active idling? | 17:46 |
| Nichope | well, the most hyped up ones (almost all of them will be grateful to another tester willing to report bugs/issues) seem to be the clients: YTplayer, Friends, Tweetian, IRC.. | 17:49 |
| RzR | is there any apk installer ? | 17:50 |
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| Nicd- | RzR: you can install APKs from the transfers list (if you have downloaded them) or with a file manager | 17:53 |
| RzR | yes i installed f-droid | 17:54 |
| RzR | this is nice | 17:54 |
| RzR | https://f-droid.org/FDroid.apk | 17:54 |
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| RzR | do u know some migrating page for harmattan users ? | 17:56 |
| Nicd- | for app development or for users? | 17:56 |
| RzR | both | 17:57 |
| RzR | now as user | 17:57 |
| RzR | like a map app , like we had on n9 :) | 17:57 |
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| Nicd- | jolla offers a very basic map app | 17:57 |
| Nicd- | it's in the store | 17:57 |
| Nicd- | here's some sort of a guide for developers: https://sailfishos.org/wiki/Porting/Harmattan | 17:58 |
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| * pahartik wishes that there was confirmation dialog before user-requested shutdown, or at least countdown timer with possibility to cancel | 18:30 | |
| Nicd- | why? | 18:31 |
| ln- | but there is a timer, you need to hold down the power button for a while, don't you? | 18:32 |
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| pahartik | Nicd-: I accidentally shut it down by pressing power button for too long | 18:32 |
| Nicd- | I don't think that's an issue that is expected to happen often | 18:33 |
| ln- | pahartik: do you press the power button regularly, and if so, why? | 18:34 |
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| pahartik | Nicd-: What I tried to do was locking display before putting device to pocket in commuter bus... But my thoughts got distracted and I held button down for two seconds or something... | 18:35 |
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| pahartik | Nicd-: Very often to lock and unlock display | 18:36 |
| ln- | i've never pressed the power button to lock or unlock the display... | 18:37 |
| Nicd- | well, I'm inclined to say that if you accidentally press the power button for seconds at a time, it's your own fault :P | 18:39 |
| coderus | RzR: congratulations! | 18:42 |
| * Aard welcomes RzR to the dark side | 18:44 | |
| ln- | pahartik: so, please consider not using the power button for locking and unlocking the display. only use it for power. | 18:45 |
| Nicd- | I do use the power button for locking the display, it's no problem | 18:45 |
| Nicd- | but just like with any other phone, don't keep it pressed down :P | 18:45 |
| Nicd- | eventually there has to be a hardware shutdown anyway if you keep it pressed | 18:46 |
| pahartik | ln-: I suppose unlocking by double tapping now works reliably... Two releases ago it did not, so I learned to avoid it | 18:47 |
| Bawal_ | i love the double-tap unlock | 18:54 |
| Bawal_ | always disappointed when i accidentally try that on other phones | 18:54 |
| Aard | Bawal_: that was a vital feature, as all of us were used to that from the N9 already :p | 18:55 |
| Bawal_ | i can believe that, getting so used to it | 18:55 |
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| Bawal_ | my last phone was n900 so... | 18:56 |
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| ln- | was it some special characteristic of the N9 display that it can show the clock without consuming much power? | 18:57 |
| Bawal_ | and i swore i wouldn't swap it for anything that doesn't have hardware querty | 18:57 |
| Bawal_ | but here i am | 18:58 |
| Bawal_ | and now, i don't really even need the querty other half... | 18:58 |
| ln- | *querty*? | 18:58 |
| Bawal_ | right | 18:58 |
| Bawal_ | qwerty | 18:58 |
| Bawal_ | anyways | 18:58 |
| ln- | sownds aukuard | 18:58 |
| Bawal_ | yup that's me | 18:59 |
| Bawal_ | usually i can write correctly tho :< | 18:59 |
| Nicd- | ln-: N9 had standby display | 18:59 |
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| Aard | ln-: it's an oled display, that makes low power mode easier | 19:00 |
| ln- | okay | 19:00 |
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| ln- | that's one feature that i'll certainly miss when i some day switch from N9 to Jolla as my primary phone. | 19:00 |
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| pahartik | Bawal_: I also upgraded from "Nokia N900" | 19:02 |
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| ln- | oh no, he started using quotes again. | 19:04 |
| Aard | ln-: I eventually got used to it, but it took quite a while. it was helping that we have a rgb led again, so at least I have an idea about notifications | 19:05 |
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| Nichope | Bawal_: my case was nearly the same than yours. Now I would still like a HW QWERTY, but atm I don't have the money to pay myself one of the 3D-printed ones | 19:19 |
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| Stskeeps | e | 19:27 |
| kimmoli | glub glub aah thanks | 19:27 |
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| RzR | thx guys | 20:05 |
| RzR | so many stores ... i will takes me some time | 20:05 |
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| sledges | RzR: welcome aboard fella! | 21:49 |
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