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william_genhi,guys03:41
william_genmorning03:42
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Temeany way to enable Jolla's browser to stream data while screen is locked?09:34
Temea bit awkward to have to touch the power button each time track changes on Bandcamp09:35
Temethat seems to allow the browser to continue doing it's thang09:36
slv_i think there's a way to cancel standby altogether09:37
slv_but that'll drain your battery09:37
slv_it won't be just for the browser09:37
slv_you want the behaviour of Media09:37
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Temein my case i wouldn't think it drains the battery, i don't typically keep open apps that use connectivity in any way09:39
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kontioTeme: veskuh might know ^ ?09:39
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Temeunless the OS itself makes a bunch of requests whilst not in standby09:40
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Temeit's not really that important, i rarely use bandcamp but this was not the first time i ran into the problem so figured i'd ask09:43
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Temesince there are not apps for every streaming service i'd guess it's pretty common for people to use them with the browser09:44
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veskuhTeme, hmm. what is bandcamp ?09:53
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veskuhin general browser only prevents device sleep when there is streaming media.09:54
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ggabrielwell, then teme is right :) this service mey stop streaming between songs09:55
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Temeggabriel: at least the mobile version of the site seems to buffer only the current track of the album and then makes a new request when the track changes09:58
veskuhTeme, ok, but anyway is should switch song almost immediately, right?09:58
Temeyes09:58
Temenow it never starts unless i unlock the device09:59
veskuhOk, then that may be a bug in browser. It really shouldn't go to sleep immediately.09:59
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Temewhat does "sleep" mean in this case?10:01
ggabriellong story short, almost like a computer stand by10:02
Temethe only problem i seem to be facing is that the browser can not perform HTTP-requests after the screen has been locked for a few minutes10:02
ggabrielexcept that the phone will wake up on other events (alarm, etc)10:02
Temethe current track plays until the end10:02
ggabrielTeme: that's right, and sounds like a bug :)10:02
ggabrielyou may want to report it in tjc with the url of the website you are using and everything10:03
Temei'll do that once i get off of work10:03
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RzRsledges, hi can you suggest me an obs project to use to build some rpms ? wont be as big as harmattan I promise :)10:07
SK_workRzR: Mer OBS ?10:11
SK_workah sorry, RzR what kind of RPMs ?10:11
SK_worksystem ones ?10:11
SK_workI usually use Mer latest or Sailfish OS latest10:11
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RzRSK_work, mostly small cli utils10:15
RzRSK_work, I tried sailfishos:1.0.5.16/latest_armv7hl unsure it's usable that way10:16
SK_workRzR: one sec10:16
SK_worklet me check10:16
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RzRSK_work, ok sailfishos:latest/latest_armv7hl10:16
RzRSK_work, https://build.merproject.org/project/repositories?project=home%3Arzr10:16
RzRSK_work, thx take your time i am not hurry10:16
SK_workRzR: classic: you didn't choose the right target10:16
SK_workwith sailfishxx_armv7el, choose armv8hl10:17
SK_workonly chose armv8hl10:17
tbrfake 64bit for the win ;)10:17
SK_workarmv8el10:17
SK_worksorry10:17
RzRok fixed10:18
RzRthx10:18
SK_workRzR: https://build.merproject.org/project/repositories?project=home%3Asfietkonstantin%3Asailfish%3Alatest10:18
RzRthe sailfishos (armv8el)10:18
RzRsailfishos:1.0.5.16/latest_armv7hl10:18
RzRthat was missleading10:18
RzRbut its building now10:19
RzRthx10:19
SK_workRzR: remove the useless repositories if you want10:19
SK_workjust keep sailfish latest10:19
RzRsure10:19
SK_workRzR: now, have fun porting redak :D10:23
RzRthat's on my plans10:23
RzRhugh10:23
RzRhttps://build.merproject.org/package/live_build_log?arch=armv8el&package=connect-proxy&project=home%3Arzr&repository=sailfish_latest_armv7hl10:23
RzR+ cd /home/abuild/rpmbuild/BUILD10:23
RzR+ rm -rf /home/abuild/rpmbuild/SOURCES/connect-proxy_1.101.orig.tar.gz10:23
RzR+ /usr/bin/gzip -dc /home/abuild/rpmbuild/SOURCES/connect-proxy_1.101.orig.tar.gz10:23
RzRweird10:23
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sledges.gz file naming10:28
RzRfixed10:28
RzRI had a setup -n10:28
sledges\o/10:29
RzRit built10:29
sledgesmagic :)10:29
SK_workRzR: easy :D10:29
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Temewell, here's the TJC about the browser streaming problem: https://together.jolla.com/question/41790/browser-next-track-on-bandcamp-wont-start-playing-unless-power-button-is-pressed/10:59
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coderusMitakuuluu v0.6-8 update. Changelog: https://github.com/CODeRUS/mitakuuluu2/releases/tag/v0.6-8 Download: https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/mitakuuluu11:35
Nicd-ah, the daily mitakuuluu update :D11:35
Yaniel"other projects have nightly builds - we have daily releasese"11:36
RzRjust curious what is the benefit to tag using a v prefix ?11:36
Yanielit won't confuse parsers that try to guess what the type is I guess?11:37
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Yanielbut it's more likely that it is just a habit11:37
RzRtype? like strings vs floats ?11:37
Yanielyep11:38
RzRlinus uses v prefix11:38
Nicd-coderus: thanks for the text layout fix :)11:38
YanielI don't know his reasoning either11:38
Yanielbut I'm guessing it is a habit/aesthetics :)11:39
Yanielalso without the prefix it is just a random number11:39
Nicd-what bothers me is that he uses 0.6-8 instead of 0.6.811:39
coderusNicd-: wix was pushed to git minutes after release. didnt wanted to release hotix with just one change11:39
coderusNicd-: its rpm version system. vVersion-Build11:40
RaimRzR: the v prefix makes it easier to distinguish tags from release branches with the version number name11:40
RaimRzR: but I think it's just a convention, there's no technical benefit11:40
Nicd-coderus: yeah, but I increment the build only when the build fails or the package was faulty. if I have bugfixes, I increment the last number, so it's like 1.2.1-111:41
Nicd-which would change to 1.2.2-1 if I had a bugfix release11:41
Nicd-that's what harbour requires too11:41
Yanielyeah x.y.z-b is a standard numbering scheme11:42
coderuswell, i'm just increasing build in each release :)11:42
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coderusnever thought what is right when started releasing :)11:43
Yaniel(major.minor.patch-build that is)11:43
coderus:)11:44
coderusi think it's too late to change versioning system11:44
Yanielhardly11:45
Yanielit would map to the standard system without ambiguity IMO11:46
RzRthe idea is upstream-downstream11:46
coderuswill change versioning with v0.7 :)11:47
coderusso, there are no bugs for now, only features, and next version will be 0.7 with some of new requested features, probably11:48
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entilwhee! good luck was on me, my jolla was un-stolen!12:14
Stskeepscool, congrats12:14
entilI severely need to start doing cloud syncing or other kinds of backup, that was scary as hell12:14
entilreports the battery life wrong and the screen looks scratchy, dunno what it went through, but it's probably nothing12:15
entilI was so scared it's on the stolen-phone aftermarkets by now.. maybe they tried, realized it's not an android and didn't know how to pwn it ;P12:15
entiland that's why it was gone for so long, if it was simply lost it should've been found a lot sooner12:15
Nicd-how did you get it back?12:16
entilanyway, haven't been this happy in a while12:16
entilNicd-: lost and found office12:16
Temeyeah, how does a phone get unstolen :d12:16
Nicd-ah12:16
Nicd-how long was it gone?12:16
entileither it was stolen and they didn't know how to break it, or someone stole it for the finder's fee or I somehow managed to lose it and someone just returned it late12:17
Temeso you think someone stole it, couldn't make any use of it and then took it to the l&f?12:17
entilsince apr 30/may 1, but I had it on me on the bus so if it slipped me, someone would have taken it to the driver and it'd be found the next working day, when I filed a missing phone report12:17
Temeprobably someone who found it just took their time in returning it.. nice luck anyways! :D12:17
entilTeme: I dunno, there are three theories, and frankly I don't really care, because I got it back12:17
entilbut like I said, I know I had it when I entered the bus so the logical way to return it would be the driver, unless there was intent to pwn it12:18
entilthere was someone in line in front of me at the l&f getting his phone back12:19
entilI guess may day celebrations are a good time for pickpockets :/12:19
entilthe one good thing about a phone that small is that it fits in the jacket's vest pocket, I should learn to keep it there instead of the coat12:19
Nicd-I just always wear cargo pants so I have pockets for everything :D12:20
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entildamned thing is we got off at the terminal station, I checked my pockets like I alawys do and thought I had the phone on me but it was a pack of smokes.. so if only I'd have pulled it out I could've walked up to the driver and ask12:21
entillots of lessons learned here12:21
entillike quit smoking, even at parties, so you don't mistake the plastic on a pack for your phone!12:22
Nicd-exactly!12:22
Nicd-glad you got it back :)12:22
entilthanks :)12:22
entilI need to grab food and whatevs but at some point I really need to look into cloud-storage options for jolla12:22
Nicd-well, younited is coming12:23
entilyeah12:23
Nicd-sometime after summer I hear12:23
Nicd-of course you could just rsync the whole thing somewhere periodically12:23
walokrawhat a luck with the phone. I also hope that my stolen bike gets found12:23
entilI take backups all the time, of course, because of the constant updates, but there's little use in that unless I sync them elsewhere12:23
entilwalokra: /me crosses fingers for your bike12:23
walokrathanks :)12:24
entilNicd-: there's probably no luck with google's cloud stuff, because the android part doesn't talk to jolla's phone book (or didn't once, dunno) and I have a distaste for google12:24
entilreally hope younited does client-side encryption, or that'll have to be bolted in the middle12:24
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Yanielstill nothing in media player :(12:48
Yanielremoved the card, rebooted and inserted card a while after that12:48
Yanielno tracker-extract processes12:49
Yanieland yes the card shows up in cargodock no problem12:49
Nicd-entil: younited doesn't have end-to-end encryption :/12:50
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netzviehwith patches bringing OTR to telepathy, one hurdle less for OTR on jolla/in sailfish :)15:19
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* pahartik has been trying to learn "lock screen by swipe from above to middle", but it is not easy to remember that it only has desired feature on "home screen" and closing application by accident is easy15:24
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* Yaniel hasn't had issues with that15:33
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* TemeV has learned to swipe first from the side and then from the top in "one gesture" :)16:20
* TemeV also thinks chatting using actions is stupid :)16:20
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* keithzg 's main issue with swiping is that it makes Android frustrating by comparison ;)20:59
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KabouikI still can't download the app I've purchased on Amazon (on computer) through the Amazon store app. Is there any way I can get the .apk file?23:01
KabouikWhen I go to My apps/Cloud, I have my two apps there, and when I tap "Install", I get "Download pending" for 2 sec and then "Download failed"23:03
KabouikNo additional info23:03
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sledgesKabouik: all installed android apps' .apk files are under /data/app/23:15
sledgeson every android device23:15
sledgesi hope some non-caching does not make them disappear23:16
KabouikYes but the point is I can't download the .apk file using the Amazon store here, so I have no local copy23:16
KabouikI'm looking for a way to make it work, or at least download the apk file on my computer23:16
sledgesKabouik: you will need anandroid device23:16
KabouikIsn't it supposed to work with Alien?23:16
sledgesit's an alien world of how android works ;23:17
sledges:)23:17
Kabouik:'(23:17
KabouikJust want to get the app I paid for :'(23:17
KabouikI had read that Amazon store did work properly on the Jolla23:18
sledgesi heard some apps download starter apps which then are passed on futher processing once downloaded, for more downloads23:18
sledgescrazy23:18
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