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Teme | any way to enable Jolla's browser to stream data while screen is locked? | 09:34 |
Teme | a bit awkward to have to touch the power button each time track changes on Bandcamp | 09:35 |
Teme | that seems to allow the browser to continue doing it's thang | 09:36 |
slv_ | i think there's a way to cancel standby altogether | 09:37 |
slv_ | but that'll drain your battery | 09:37 |
slv_ | it won't be just for the browser | 09:37 |
slv_ | you want the behaviour of Media | 09:37 |
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Teme | in my case i wouldn't think it drains the battery, i don't typically keep open apps that use connectivity in any way | 09:39 |
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kontio | Teme: veskuh might know ^ ? | 09:39 |
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Teme | unless the OS itself makes a bunch of requests whilst not in standby | 09:40 |
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Teme | it's not really that important, i rarely use bandcamp but this was not the first time i ran into the problem so figured i'd ask | 09:43 |
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Teme | since there are not apps for every streaming service i'd guess it's pretty common for people to use them with the browser | 09:44 |
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veskuh | Teme, hmm. what is bandcamp ? | 09:53 |
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veskuh | in general browser only prevents device sleep when there is streaming media. | 09:54 |
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ggabriel | well, then teme is right :) this service mey stop streaming between songs | 09:55 |
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Teme | ggabriel: at least the mobile version of the site seems to buffer only the current track of the album and then makes a new request when the track changes | 09:58 |
veskuh | Teme, ok, but anyway is should switch song almost immediately, right? | 09:58 |
Teme | yes | 09:58 |
Teme | now it never starts unless i unlock the device | 09:59 |
veskuh | Ok, then that may be a bug in browser. It really shouldn't go to sleep immediately. | 09:59 |
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Teme | what does "sleep" mean in this case? | 10:01 |
ggabriel | long story short, almost like a computer stand by | 10:02 |
Teme | the only problem i seem to be facing is that the browser can not perform HTTP-requests after the screen has been locked for a few minutes | 10:02 |
ggabriel | except that the phone will wake up on other events (alarm, etc) | 10:02 |
Teme | the current track plays until the end | 10:02 |
ggabriel | Teme: that's right, and sounds like a bug :) | 10:02 |
ggabriel | you may want to report it in tjc with the url of the website you are using and everything | 10:03 |
Teme | i'll do that once i get off of work | 10:03 |
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RzR | sledges, hi can you suggest me an obs project to use to build some rpms ? wont be as big as harmattan I promise :) | 10:07 |
SK_work | RzR: Mer OBS ? | 10:11 |
SK_work | ah sorry, RzR what kind of RPMs ? | 10:11 |
SK_work | system ones ? | 10:11 |
SK_work | I usually use Mer latest or Sailfish OS latest | 10:11 |
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RzR | SK_work, mostly small cli utils | 10:15 |
RzR | SK_work, I tried sailfishos:1.0.5.16/latest_armv7hl unsure it's usable that way | 10:16 |
SK_work | RzR: one sec | 10:16 |
SK_work | let me check | 10:16 |
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RzR | SK_work, ok sailfishos:latest/latest_armv7hl | 10:16 |
RzR | SK_work, https://build.merproject.org/project/repositories?project=home%3Arzr | 10:16 |
RzR | SK_work, thx take your time i am not hurry | 10:16 |
SK_work | RzR: classic: you didn't choose the right target | 10:16 |
SK_work | with sailfishxx_armv7el, choose armv8hl | 10:17 |
SK_work | only chose armv8hl | 10:17 |
tbr | fake 64bit for the win ;) | 10:17 |
SK_work | armv8el | 10:17 |
SK_work | sorry | 10:17 |
RzR | ok fixed | 10:18 |
RzR | thx | 10:18 |
SK_work | RzR: https://build.merproject.org/project/repositories?project=home%3Asfietkonstantin%3Asailfish%3Alatest | 10:18 |
RzR | the sailfishos (armv8el) | 10:18 |
RzR | sailfishos:1.0.5.16/latest_armv7hl | 10:18 |
RzR | that was missleading | 10:18 |
RzR | but its building now | 10:19 |
RzR | thx | 10:19 |
SK_work | RzR: remove the useless repositories if you want | 10:19 |
SK_work | just keep sailfish latest | 10:19 |
RzR | sure | 10:19 |
SK_work | RzR: now, have fun porting redak :D | 10:23 |
RzR | that's on my plans | 10:23 |
RzR | hugh | 10:23 |
RzR | https://build.merproject.org/package/live_build_log?arch=armv8el&package=connect-proxy&project=home%3Arzr&repository=sailfish_latest_armv7hl | 10:23 |
RzR | + cd /home/abuild/rpmbuild/BUILD | 10:23 |
RzR | + rm -rf /home/abuild/rpmbuild/SOURCES/connect-proxy_1.101.orig.tar.gz | 10:23 |
RzR | + /usr/bin/gzip -dc /home/abuild/rpmbuild/SOURCES/connect-proxy_1.101.orig.tar.gz | 10:23 |
RzR | weird | 10:23 |
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sledges | .gz file naming | 10:28 |
RzR | fixed | 10:28 |
RzR | I had a setup -n | 10:28 |
sledges | \o/ | 10:29 |
RzR | it built | 10:29 |
sledges | magic :) | 10:29 |
SK_work | RzR: easy :D | 10:29 |
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Teme | well, here's the TJC about the browser streaming problem: https://together.jolla.com/question/41790/browser-next-track-on-bandcamp-wont-start-playing-unless-power-button-is-pressed/ | 10:59 |
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coderus | Mitakuuluu v0.6-8 update. Changelog: https://github.com/CODeRUS/mitakuuluu2/releases/tag/v0.6-8 Download: https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/mitakuuluu | 11:35 |
Nicd- | ah, the daily mitakuuluu update :D | 11:35 |
Yaniel | "other projects have nightly builds - we have daily releasese" | 11:36 |
RzR | just curious what is the benefit to tag using a v prefix ? | 11:36 |
Yaniel | it won't confuse parsers that try to guess what the type is I guess? | 11:37 |
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Yaniel | but it's more likely that it is just a habit | 11:37 |
RzR | type? like strings vs floats ? | 11:37 |
Yaniel | yep | 11:38 |
RzR | linus uses v prefix | 11:38 |
Nicd- | coderus: thanks for the text layout fix :) | 11:38 |
Yaniel | I don't know his reasoning either | 11:38 |
Yaniel | but I'm guessing it is a habit/aesthetics :) | 11:39 |
Yaniel | also without the prefix it is just a random number | 11:39 |
Nicd- | what bothers me is that he uses 0.6-8 instead of 0.6.8 | 11:39 |
coderus | Nicd-: wix was pushed to git minutes after release. didnt wanted to release hotix with just one change | 11:39 |
coderus | Nicd-: its rpm version system. vVersion-Build | 11:40 |
Raim | RzR: the v prefix makes it easier to distinguish tags from release branches with the version number name | 11:40 |
Raim | RzR: but I think it's just a convention, there's no technical benefit | 11:40 |
Nicd- | coderus: yeah, but I increment the build only when the build fails or the package was faulty. if I have bugfixes, I increment the last number, so it's like 1.2.1-1 | 11:41 |
Nicd- | which would change to 1.2.2-1 if I had a bugfix release | 11:41 |
Nicd- | that's what harbour requires too | 11:41 |
Yaniel | yeah x.y.z-b is a standard numbering scheme | 11:42 |
coderus | well, i'm just increasing build in each release :) | 11:42 |
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coderus | never thought what is right when started releasing :) | 11:43 |
Yaniel | (major.minor.patch-build that is) | 11:43 |
coderus | :) | 11:44 |
coderus | i think it's too late to change versioning system | 11:44 |
Yaniel | hardly | 11:45 |
Yaniel | it would map to the standard system without ambiguity IMO | 11:46 |
RzR | the idea is upstream-downstream | 11:46 |
coderus | will change versioning with v0.7 :) | 11:47 |
coderus | so, there are no bugs for now, only features, and next version will be 0.7 with some of new requested features, probably | 11:48 |
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entil | whee! good luck was on me, my jolla was un-stolen! | 12:14 |
Stskeeps | cool, congrats | 12:14 |
entil | I severely need to start doing cloud syncing or other kinds of backup, that was scary as hell | 12:14 |
entil | reports the battery life wrong and the screen looks scratchy, dunno what it went through, but it's probably nothing | 12:15 |
entil | I was so scared it's on the stolen-phone aftermarkets by now.. maybe they tried, realized it's not an android and didn't know how to pwn it ;P | 12:15 |
entil | and that's why it was gone for so long, if it was simply lost it should've been found a lot sooner | 12:15 |
Nicd- | how did you get it back? | 12:16 |
entil | anyway, haven't been this happy in a while | 12:16 |
entil | Nicd-: lost and found office | 12:16 |
Teme | yeah, how does a phone get unstolen :d | 12:16 |
Nicd- | ah | 12:16 |
Nicd- | how long was it gone? | 12:16 |
entil | either it was stolen and they didn't know how to break it, or someone stole it for the finder's fee or I somehow managed to lose it and someone just returned it late | 12:17 |
Teme | so you think someone stole it, couldn't make any use of it and then took it to the l&f? | 12:17 |
entil | since apr 30/may 1, but I had it on me on the bus so if it slipped me, someone would have taken it to the driver and it'd be found the next working day, when I filed a missing phone report | 12:17 |
Teme | probably someone who found it just took their time in returning it.. nice luck anyways! :D | 12:17 |
entil | Teme: I dunno, there are three theories, and frankly I don't really care, because I got it back | 12:17 |
entil | but like I said, I know I had it when I entered the bus so the logical way to return it would be the driver, unless there was intent to pwn it | 12:18 |
entil | there was someone in line in front of me at the l&f getting his phone back | 12:19 |
entil | I guess may day celebrations are a good time for pickpockets :/ | 12:19 |
entil | the one good thing about a phone that small is that it fits in the jacket's vest pocket, I should learn to keep it there instead of the coat | 12:19 |
Nicd- | I just always wear cargo pants so I have pockets for everything :D | 12:20 |
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entil | damned thing is we got off at the terminal station, I checked my pockets like I alawys do and thought I had the phone on me but it was a pack of smokes.. so if only I'd have pulled it out I could've walked up to the driver and ask | 12:21 |
entil | lots of lessons learned here | 12:21 |
entil | like quit smoking, even at parties, so you don't mistake the plastic on a pack for your phone! | 12:22 |
Nicd- | exactly! | 12:22 |
Nicd- | glad you got it back :) | 12:22 |
entil | thanks :) | 12:22 |
entil | I need to grab food and whatevs but at some point I really need to look into cloud-storage options for jolla | 12:22 |
Nicd- | well, younited is coming | 12:23 |
entil | yeah | 12:23 |
Nicd- | sometime after summer I hear | 12:23 |
Nicd- | of course you could just rsync the whole thing somewhere periodically | 12:23 |
walokra | what a luck with the phone. I also hope that my stolen bike gets found | 12:23 |
entil | I take backups all the time, of course, because of the constant updates, but there's little use in that unless I sync them elsewhere | 12:23 |
entil | walokra: /me crosses fingers for your bike | 12:23 |
walokra | thanks :) | 12:24 |
entil | Nicd-: there's probably no luck with google's cloud stuff, because the android part doesn't talk to jolla's phone book (or didn't once, dunno) and I have a distaste for google | 12:24 |
entil | really hope younited does client-side encryption, or that'll have to be bolted in the middle | 12:24 |
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Yaniel | still nothing in media player :( | 12:48 |
Yaniel | removed the card, rebooted and inserted card a while after that | 12:48 |
Yaniel | no tracker-extract processes | 12:49 |
Yaniel | and yes the card shows up in cargodock no problem | 12:49 |
Nicd- | entil: younited doesn't have end-to-end encryption :/ | 12:50 |
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netzvieh | with patches bringing OTR to telepathy, one hurdle less for OTR on jolla/in sailfish :) | 15:19 |
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* pahartik has been trying to learn "lock screen by swipe from above to middle", but it is not easy to remember that it only has desired feature on "home screen" and closing application by accident is easy | 15:24 | |
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* TemeV also thinks chatting using actions is stupid :) | 16:20 | |
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CvP_ | hi | 18:29 |
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* keithzg 's main issue with swiping is that it makes Android frustrating by comparison ;) | 20:59 | |
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dr_gogeta86 | guys | 21:01 |
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keithzg | dude? | 21:05 |
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Kabouik | I still can't download the app I've purchased on Amazon (on computer) through the Amazon store app. Is there any way I can get the .apk file? | 23:01 |
Kabouik | When I go to My apps/Cloud, I have my two apps there, and when I tap "Install", I get "Download pending" for 2 sec and then "Download failed" | 23:03 |
Kabouik | No additional info | 23:03 |
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sledges | Kabouik: all installed android apps' .apk files are under /data/app/ | 23:15 |
sledges | on every android device | 23:15 |
sledges | i hope some non-caching does not make them disappear | 23:16 |
Kabouik | Yes but the point is I can't download the .apk file using the Amazon store here, so I have no local copy | 23:16 |
Kabouik | I'm looking for a way to make it work, or at least download the apk file on my computer | 23:16 |
sledges | Kabouik: you will need anandroid device | 23:16 |
Kabouik | Isn't it supposed to work with Alien? | 23:16 |
sledges | it's an alien world of how android works ; | 23:17 |
sledges | :) | 23:17 |
Kabouik | :'( | 23:17 |
Kabouik | Just want to get the app I paid for :'( | 23:17 |
Kabouik | I had read that Amazon store did work properly on the Jolla | 23:18 |
sledges | i heard some apps download starter apps which then are passed on futher processing once downloaded, for more downloads | 23:18 |
sledges | crazy | 23:18 |
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