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| Stskeeps | good morning world | 04:19 |
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| covox | hi everybody | 06:06 |
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| faenil | morning o/ | 08:12 |
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| Sail0r | hm truecrypt doomed | 08:14 |
| Sail0r | https://gist.github.com/ValdikSS/c13a82ca4a2d8b7e87ff | 08:14 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | good morning guys especially I hope for Stskeeps | 08:16 |
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| ggabriel | Sail0r: time to use luks | 08:17 |
| Sail0r | hehe yes :) I am already using luks ;) | 08:18 |
| ggabriel | i use both, lazy to migrate | 08:18 |
| ggabriel | but i guess the time has come | 08:18 |
| Sail0r | but now the people maybe stop asking to bring truecrypt to Sailfish ;) | 08:18 |
| ggabriel | according to ars, it appears that the true motivator was win xp | 08:19 |
| ggabriel | which is fair enough | 08:19 |
| ggabriel | trouble with linux is that you need root/sudo to mount encrypted partitions | 08:20 |
| Sail0r | it's a great time for conspiracy theory lovers | 08:21 |
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| ggabriel | truecrypt no longer secure because snowden!!! | 08:24 |
| Sail0r | hehe | 08:25 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | And I'm crying | 10:10 |
| dr_gogeta86 | https://scontent-b-mxp.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t1.0-9/10365994_504290206343456_2268778368970537889_n.jpg | 10:10 |
| VDVsx | what's inside ? :D | 10:11 |
| _Razor_ | don't open | 10:11 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | 1+es | 10:12 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/behind-the-scenes-invites-are-coming.21563/ | 10:13 |
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| Stskeeps | dr_gogeta86: i'm okay, thanks for asking | 11:34 |
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| slate | good old irssi-phone n950 <3 | 12:35 |
| slate | cant figure out any other use | 12:35 |
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| faenil | slate, nemomobile :p | 12:37 |
| locusf | yeah glacier needs devel and graphics help :) | 12:38 |
| slate | hmm, could install and look in to it. graphics are my thing | 12:40 |
| locusf | yay | 12:41 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | but run glacier on sailfish | 16:01 |
| dr_gogeta86 | ? | 16:01 |
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| locusf | dr_gogeta86: its possible | 16:04 |
| dr_gogeta86 | how ? | 16:04 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | or how to compile | 16:04 |
| locusf | on Sailfish SDK | 16:05 |
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| Morpog_PC | nice wrap up about the jolla device and sailfishos by @wwwramothde http://t.co/c68eVrtt02 | 17:52 |
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| tango_ | showed the jolla to a friend of mine, complaied about a lack of a missing universal pinch-to-zoom gesture like mac os x (blows up the text ot make it easier to read when your eyes aren't that good) | 18:15 |
| Stskeeps | got a video for that on a mobile? | 18:16 |
| Stskeeps | it should be possible to have something that increases font size | 18:16 |
| Nicd- | on OS X it just zooms in the rasterized version | 18:16 |
| Nicd- | so no vector zoom, it pixelates | 18:16 |
| tango_ | Nicd-: well, on jolla it should be possible to do it even better (opengl zoom) | 18:17 |
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| phako | opengl doesn't solve all problems out there | 18:32 |
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| phako | Maybe OpenGL 4.2 is | 18:35 |
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| Yaniel | dream on | 18:41 |
| Yaniel | we don't even have GL ES 3.0 yet | 18:41 |
| Stskeeps | well, not on jolla | 18:42 |
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| Jupp3 | tango_: Most programs that draw text with OpenGL probably draw it as textures at "native" size | 19:13 |
| Jupp3 | Of course you could render it bigger-than-needed, and as default, render it smaller. Then it wouldn't go blocky immediately (of course there's smoothing) | 19:14 |
| Yaniel | there are also signed distance fields | 19:16 |
| Yaniel | which scale up pretty well but are more complex to generate | 19:17 |
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| pdanek | Is Jolla going to make any announcement soon? | 20:44 |
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| pdanek | It's been a while since they have spoken out. | 20:44 |
| tbr | about? | 20:46 |
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| faenil | pdanek, Jolla has this "habit" of keeping quiet about things :P | 20:47 |
| szopin_sailing | anyone seen dirkvl? | 20:47 |
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| ShadowJK | There's some article about june update on tjc | 20:51 |
| faenil | pdanek, https://together.jolla.com/question/43464/next-os-update-in-early-june/ | 20:52 |
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| pdanek | No one has spoken of keyboard halfs yet? | 20:54 |
| faenil | pdanek, nothing official afaik | 20:55 |
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| M4rtinK | a mass produced keyboard would be nice :) | 20:57 |
| M4rtinK | well, actually any official TOH that is not just a piece of plastic would :) | 20:58 |
| szopin_sailing | with more jollas sold every day it is an investment that at some point will be profitable | 20:59 |
| szopin_sailing | for the time being following the tohkb2 maybe thread on tmo is the best option | 21:00 |
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| pdanek | szopin_sailing: someone is working on tohkb2? I've got tohkb1, it's "OK", but just a prototype. :/ | 21:15 |
| faenil | pdanek, just asking, did you guys think about having it printed by shapeways? | 21:16 |
| pdanek | faenil: 3D printing is not an issue, but making the whole thing | 21:17 |
| faenil | pdanek, of course, but since the pcb is tehre already | 21:17 |
| faenil | what's bad in the tohkb1? | 21:17 |
| faenil | I guess the print quality, or am I wrong? | 21:17 |
| faenil | or is it the sliding mechanism? | 21:18 |
| pdanek | the whole thing, is clearly a prototype :) | 21:18 |
| pdanek | not so good for daily use | 21:18 |
| faenil | why | 21:19 |
| pdanek | sliding is prototype feel, 3d model is very rough plastic, i's very bulky, the keyboard is not the best | 21:19 |
| pdanek | it's just "OK" | 21:19 |
| pdanek | N900 keyboard experience was 3x as good | 21:19 |
| pdanek | tohkb1 is only little bit better than no keybard | 21:19 |
| faenil | hehe | 21:20 |
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| mdxth | scientific calculator TOH would be nice :) | 21:24 |
| dunp | tiemu pls :) | 21:26 |
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| pdanek | Btw, I still find N900 better than Jolla. | 21:28 |
| pdanek | Even today. :) | 21:28 |
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| dunp | i like n900 it best phone ever oly more ram and beter cpu.. | 21:28 |
| pdanek | dunp: so you're saving for Neo900 then? :D | 21:29 |
| Hartzi | bigger screen, capasitive screen, better camera, better usb port construction... :P | 21:30 |
| dunp | lighter? | 21:30 |
| Hartzi | improved OS and so on | 21:30 |
| dunp | openhardware? own custom os? | 21:31 |
| dunp | ext to run any linux on it | 21:31 |
| pdanek | Hartzi: when virtual keyboard takes 60% of your screen, then you don't really have bigger screen and better camera? not really, and resistive screen is N900 is superior to capatitive ones | 21:32 |
| faiden | Why is the sensor infront of the phone flashing? | 21:32 |
| M4rtinK | well, the resisitive screen on the N900 is much more accurate than any capacitive screen I've seen | 21:32 |
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| faenil | faiden, it's normal, and you can only see it when recording videos | 21:33 |
| faiden | yes, I'm just curious what it is and what it does | 21:33 |
| Hartzi | pdanek: maybe, but 3,5" is not still enough | 21:33 |
| faenil | not sure if it's the proximity or light sensor | 21:34 |
| faenil | one of the two | 21:34 |
| faiden | hmm as long as it's not recording me | 21:34 |
| faenil | lol | 21:34 |
| pdanek | M4rtinK: agree, web browsing with N900 screen is amazing | 21:34 |
| faenil | well it's always on, because it's used for stuff like locking the phone when you put it in the pocket | 21:34 |
| faiden | but tnx faenil | 21:34 |
| pdanek | Hartzi: just question, have you owned N900 please? :O | 21:34 |
| faenil | np | 21:34 |
| faenil | good night people! | 21:35 |
| faiden | nn | 21:35 |
| Hartzi | pdanek: I still have | 21:35 |
| pdanek | Hartzi: cool | 21:35 |
| Hartzi | but not in daily use anymore | 21:35 |
| M4rtinK | it is also good for OSM surveying with osm2go | 21:36 |
| M4rtinK | not really doable at all with capacitive screen | 21:36 |
| M4rtinK | night :) | 21:36 |
| pdanek | I'm trying to figure out, which OS is technically most developed of all. | 21:37 |
| pdanek | As of today. :) | 21:37 |
| pdanek | Regardless if it's open source or not. | 21:37 |
| pdanek | Do you think BB10? | 21:37 |
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| M4rtinK | well, I don't think it is this easy | 21:38 |
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| M4rtinK | each of them sucks big time in some regard :) | 21:38 |
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| pdanek | I was never BB10 user, but I played with it for 5 minutes on airport and it seemed just amazingly good, even so much better than Jolla experience. | 21:40 |
| M4rtinK | yeah, it is not that bad | 21:40 |
| M4rtinK | and you really see how much money they dumped into it | 21:40 |
| pdanek | And I hate using Android, it's just so "dumb phone" feel on Android. | 21:40 |
| pdanek | not a computer like feel on Android | 21:40 |
| M4rtinK | on the other hand it is very very embedded | 21:40 |
| M4rtinK | well, Android is much more "computer like" than BB10 | 21:41 |
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| M4rtinK | much less locked down | 21:41 |
| M4rtinK | usually has usable shell | 21:41 |
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| M4rtinK | and no crazy background task limitations like on BB10 | 21:42 |
| M4rtinK | and you don't need to have a signing token from blackberry to take a leak | 21:42 |
| M4rtinK | (well, to run software on your own device) | 21:43 |
| stephg | gnight folks, catch you in the morning | 21:44 |
| M4rtinK | also, IIRC it is still using the Qt4 based Frankenstein called Cascades | 21:44 |
| M4rtinK | and if you want Qt 5, you need to bundle it in your package | 21:44 |
| M4rtinK | but on the other hand, from user perspective it is rellatively nice and reportedly the keyboard integration on the Q10 is good :) | 21:45 |
| pdanek | humm | 21:45 |
| M4rtinK | also it should be possible to write Qt 5/Python 3 applications for BB10 :) | 21:46 |
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