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sqozz | Aciid: build it on your device, there is no need for cross compiling ;) | 05:45 |
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Aciid | sqozz: b-but where do I get gcc and other things for my jolla | 06:10 |
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Mnsu | pkcon install gcc | 06:11 |
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kimmoli | Aciid: some tips here http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=92036 | 06:37 |
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sqozz | Aciid: exactly what kimmoli posted ;) the repository has everything what you need for compiling | 06:40 |
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TMavica | anyone emoji keyboard nothing emoji show out? | 07:05 |
SK_work | wondering: does the Jolla support 4G+ ? | 07:08 |
SK_work | http://www.nextinpact.com/news/88159-bouygues-telecom-lance-officiellement-sa-4g-4g-lte-advanced.htm | 07:08 |
SK_work | 4G advanced ? | 07:08 |
Stskeeps | what the f*** is 4G+ | 07:09 |
Stskeeps | ? | 07:09 |
Stskeeps | :P | 07:09 |
SK_work | Stskeeps: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/LTE_Advanced | 07:09 |
SK_work | can it support this via sw update ? or hw limited ? | 07:09 |
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SK_work | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LTE_Advanced for the english version | 07:09 |
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tbr | LTEa is just moar speeeed | 07:11 |
pp | they're adding all sorts of bits to it | 07:11 |
pp | (actually watching a presentation on what they're adding in LTE just now :P ) | 07:11 |
Stskeeps | SK_work: i think that's a 'no', from what i can see about our modem | 07:12 |
tbr | the fun stuff will be "5G" | 07:12 |
tbr | I don't think there are really devices out there that support LTEa yet | 07:12 |
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SK_work | Stskeeps: ok :) | 07:13 |
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Stskeeps | a msm8974 should have it though | 07:14 |
Stskeeps | / msm9x25 | 07:15 |
Stskeeps | we're on 9x15 from what i grok | 07:15 |
Stskeeps | er, msm=mdm in that last sentence | 07:15 |
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ShadowJK | "5g", like 4g turned out to be, will be a marketing thing instead of a technology thing | 09:05 |
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goroboro | but we have the machine that goes ping! | 09:07 |
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tbr | ShadowJK: 4G was an utter fiasco as they never defined the term and then all operators lumped in every iterative tech into 4G, especially in the US with WiMax and friends | 09:07 |
goroboro | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arCITMfxvEc | 09:08 |
tbr | I'd expect them to not make that mistake again | 09:08 |
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ggabriel_ | what is this thing about sailfish 1.0.7.16/18 (e.g., https://together.jolla.com/question/47351/1071618-openrepos-list-empty/) | 09:20 |
ggabriel_ | has there been a hotfix? | 09:20 |
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Scelt | ggabriel: opt-in, I guess | 09:22 |
ggabriel | Scelt: thanks, makes sense | 09:22 |
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ShadowJK | i thought it WAS defined, but they gave up with the definition when everybody started calling random things 4g | 09:23 |
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ggabriel | ShadowJK: my phone says "4G" in the reception bar, surely that's 4G :P | 09:24 |
ShadowJK | iirc originally it was something like >100Mbit/s IP based.. | 09:24 |
ShadowJK | which would've meant ltea | 09:24 |
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coderus | Morpog_PC: ping | 10:26 |
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Morpog_PC | coderus pong | 10:32 |
Scelt | what you think? https://twitter.com/ilotippa/status/478844294976258049 | 10:34 |
coderus | Morpog_PC: can you please make some more cover icons for Mitakuuluu? | 10:35 |
Morpog_PC | sure, list what you need | 10:35 |
ggabriel | scam? | 10:35 |
ggabriel | (scelt) | 10:36 |
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Morpog_PC | ggabriel, I wait for someone else to click that link first :D | 10:36 |
Teme | i feel like contributing to the ASMO project by proof reading everything they submit in english :P | 10:36 |
ggabriel | i've got chargers that do that already | 10:36 |
ggabriel | Morpog_PC: i had to click 3 links.... not sure why people don't link directly in twitter, all this @ # stuff is just distracting | 10:37 |
Scelt | ggabriel: I don't. Do they really work? | 10:37 |
ggabriel | Scelt: yeah, sure | 10:37 |
ggabriel | i've had phones for >18 years | 10:37 |
ggabriel | also, there's this tickle charge concept | 10:38 |
ggabriel | anyway | 10:38 |
ggabriel | i wouldn't waste my time | 10:38 |
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ggabriel | wireless charging would be cooler | 10:38 |
ggabriel | and if not, charging from any powered usb device does the trick for me | 10:38 |
ggabriel | if anything, the phone should come with no charger at all | 10:38 |
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Scelt | ggabriel: okay mr. monoloque. everyone has their own needs | 10:38 |
ggabriel | Scelt: you asked for opinions, you got mine | 10:39 |
Scelt | ggabriel: I was just amused :-) | 10:40 |
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Scelt | ggabriel: been thinking about wireless charging but at least the nokia's one works badly | 10:42 |
ggabriel | wireless charging is a cool concept. if you ask me, i carry 2 usb cables which takes almost no space and there's always a powered usb port somewhere | 10:42 |
ggabriel | the downside of wireless charging is that you can't use your phone while charging | 10:43 |
Scelt | I do so too but all nongeeks I know, use wall chargers | 10:43 |
ggabriel | interesting fact: in japan they don't shop mobile phones with a charger - you get that separately | 10:43 |
ggabriel | s/shop/ship/ | 10:43 |
ggabriel | Scelt: i do use wall chargers too | 10:44 |
Scelt | I would offer a basic package without charger. I'd survive without just fine. But then a premium package with ASMOcharger or equilevant for half price of the chargers retail price or something like that | 10:46 |
ggabriel | probably the big boys can do that, not sure jolla could deal with the logistics of multiple packages | 10:47 |
Teme | serioysly that Asmo-charger Kickstarter page, they have 2 copywriters listed and text like this on the page: "Hi! My name is Asmo Saloranta and I am behind of this project. I made this invention on last October. Since then it have been quite a ride." :D | 10:48 |
ggabriel | yeah, sounds like a scam | 10:48 |
Scelt | Teme: yeah, that's what you get for speaking natively a nongerman language | 10:48 |
ggabriel | a usb charger is... a usb charger | 10:49 |
Yaniel | for a copywriter that is still far too unprofessional | 10:49 |
Teme | Scelt: do you know what a copywriter does for a living? | 10:49 |
Scelt | Teme: sure | 10:49 |
Teme | hence you must understand why i find it a bit off :) | 10:49 |
FireFly | ggabriel: not shipping a charger makes sense to me, now that we use microUSB for charging everything | 10:49 |
FireFly | no need to get another charger when you already have four | 10:49 |
ggabriel | FireFly: only in the EU* | 10:49 |
ggabriel | but yeat | 10:50 |
ggabriel | yeah even | 10:50 |
ggabriel | lower price, you don't end up with a million chargers at home | 10:50 |
Scelt | Teme: sure but maybe these only corrected the typos etc. not making the text more fluent | 10:50 |
ggabriel | also, not a single of those chargers ever failed | 10:50 |
flux | related: http://www.hellonomad.com/ - yes, I will pay $39 for a usb cable :) | 10:50 |
Scelt | ggabriel: I wouldn't say it's a logistics issue. maybe a challenge ;) | 10:51 |
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ggabriel | Scelt: same thing | 10:51 |
ggabriel | logistical challenge | 10:51 |
ggabriel | if you ask me, i'd rather more features/fixes+second device planning | 10:52 |
ggabriel | bear in mind that there are no packages with different OH colours | 10:52 |
Scelt | yeah. you could use the same solution | 10:52 |
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coderus | Morpog_PC: connect / disconnect | 10:55 |
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Andy80 | chriadam|away, special hi! do you know what is the command to manually sync Google Contacts on Jolla? Something weird is happening... half contacts disappeared.... I've a call/chat log with empty names... and Android apps cannot sync my Google Contacts (the Contacts android app only shows 7-8 contacts on a 500+ total). Thanks | 11:22 |
Gordon` | Hi, I’m still having reboots since the last upgrade :/ | 11:23 |
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Gordon` | I have to mail care@, I know :) | 11:23 |
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Yaniel | did you try the paper trick yet? | 11:24 |
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Sailor967_ | is there some bluetooth obd app on jolla? | 11:54 |
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HtheB | My Jolla keeps rebooting suddenly | 12:23 |
Stskeeps | if you're on update7, send a mail to care | 12:24 |
HtheB | every 15-20 seconds :( | 12:24 |
HtheB | yeah | 12:24 |
Stskeeps | take out battery for 10 minutes, put it back in, as temporary measure | 12:24 |
HtheB | care @ jolla . com? | 12:24 |
Plnt | HtheB: i noticed that too after installing update 7 + conman update. but it happend only ~4-5 times yesterday. i removed the battery and put it back after few minutes and it's fine today. | 12:24 |
Stskeeps | HtheB: yes | 12:24 |
HtheB | Plnt: I never had a reboot issue | 12:25 |
HtheB | Stskeeps: I've recently added an email to my phone, do you think it has something to do with? | 12:25 |
Plnt | yeah, me neither | 12:25 |
Nicd- | hmmmmmm. I just got an update for Android Support in the store | 12:27 |
Nicd- | I updated and it created an Android Support icon in my app grid | 12:27 |
Nicd- | when I click on it, it moves to the home view (scolled up a bit like when you're opening an app), then nothing happens | 12:28 |
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HtheB | play store or jolla store? | 12:29 |
Stskeeps | Nicd-: prolly just download indicator | 12:30 |
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Nicd- | Stskeeps: but it was updated already | 12:31 |
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Nicd- | HtheB: jolla store | 12:31 |
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Nicd- | I don't have play store | 12:31 |
Scelt | damn, only if Jolla had 2 GB of ram it would awesomest | 12:31 |
HtheB | Jolla 2? | 12:31 |
Scelt | playing angry birds epic on android vm is a bit heavy | 12:31 |
HtheB | Scelt: vm? | 12:32 |
HtheB | its not VM | 12:32 |
Scelt | okay, alien dalvik then. no matter what it is :-) | 12:32 |
Scelt | I guess it's the matter of OOM when the red blinker comes | 12:32 |
Scelt | and it killed my game | 12:33 |
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Morpog_PC | wtf dropbox is dead slow atm | 13:48 |
Stskeeps | DDoS? | 13:48 |
Morpog_PC | could be | 13:48 |
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Morpog_PC | coderus, here you go, made 2 variants, so hopefully you like one of them: https://db.tt/1jAdDcPe | 13:51 |
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coderus | Morpog_PC: i cant open page :) | 13:53 |
Morpog_PC | damn dropbox lol | 13:54 |
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Nightmare__ | slow, but works for me | 13:56 |
Morpog_PC | coderus, dropbox is damn slow atm, just give it some time | 13:57 |
mord | ~ | 13:58 |
mord | err, nm | 14:00 |
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clau | I see there's an aliendalvik update (0.11.5). Are there any release notes for it? | 14:09 |
Morpog_PC | yeah here too :) | 14:10 |
Scelt | me too, said the smallest one | 14:11 |
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Wnt | some reported that it added "android support" icon to the laucher that does nothing when clicked | 14:15 |
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clau_ | Indeed, I have the new icon | 14:15 |
bennypr0fane | Is it possible to copy the calendar sql file from the phone to the computer over usb? /home/nemo/.local/share/system/privileged/Calendar/mkcal/db | 14:16 |
clau_ | it just freezes the screen in an awkward position | 14:16 |
bennypr0fane | I connected the Jolla to the pc, but I can't locate this path | 14:16 |
Wnt | bennypr0fane: I don't think those files are exported over the MPT protocol | 14:17 |
bennypr0fane | it suggests so here: https://together.jolla.com/question/47232/wiki-how-to-sync-your-calendar/#post-id-47355 for bakcing up the calendar | 14:17 |
Wnt | or what was the name of the file sharing protocol... | 14:17 |
bennypr0fane | Wnt: is it possible yet to make the usb connection use a different protocol? | 14:18 |
bennypr0fane | Wnt: it's mtp | 14:18 |
Wnt | bennypr0fane: if you have developer mode enabled it's possible to access the phone's whole filesystem over SSH / sftp | 14:18 |
bennypr0fane | and it's stupid... | 14:18 |
bennypr0fane | Wnt: hum hum... then I'd have to figure out all the commands to do this, and the Ip addresses first etc... | 14:19 |
Azog | aliendalvik update does not fix the gps issue | 14:19 |
dunp | i hate mtp too.. | 14:20 |
TemeV | bennypr0fane: with e.g. winscp you don't need any "commands" and ip you can find from the settings | 14:20 |
ggabriel | bennypr0fane: i hate to say this, but there is mtp if you don't want to learn all the commands/etc | 14:21 |
ggabriel | altho TemeV is right to point out well known gui replacements such as winscp | 14:21 |
bennypr0fane | TemeV: can you recommend a Linux equivalent for winscp? | 14:21 |
ggabriel | sshfs is really cool too | 14:21 |
Wnt | bennypr0fane: on linux many filemanagers support the sftp protocol | 14:21 |
TemeV | I think I've never used a sftp giu with linux | 14:21 |
TemeV | *gui | 14:22 |
Wnt | so just type sftp://nemo@<phone's ip number>:/home/nemo to your filemanager's addressbar | 14:22 |
TemeV | i think at least in gnome you can connect to sftp server from some menus | 14:23 |
Wnt | it'll ask you for the password you set when enabling developer mode | 14:23 |
bennypr0fane | TemeV: maybe no one ever has, one of the things that makes Linux a bit less accessible. ggabriel: If you tell my how to copy that file from phone to pc over mtp, that's perfect! | 14:23 |
coderus | Morpog_PC: thank you :) | 14:23 |
Wnt | with Gnome's filemanager, Naututilus, I'ts possible to access the addressbar with Ctrl + L if it's hidden by default | 14:23 |
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Wnt | bennypr0fane: should work in KDE's filemanager too | 14:24 |
TemeV | bennypr0fane: check the "ubuntu store" | 14:24 |
TemeV | what ever it is actually called | 14:25 |
coderus | bennypr0fane: sftp://nemo@192.168.2.15 | 14:25 |
TemeV | software center? | 14:25 |
coderus | you dont need any app for that | 14:25 |
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bennypr0fane | where do I find the phones ip address in settings? | 14:26 |
TemeV | in developer mode menu | 14:26 |
coderus | bennypr0fane: /sbin/ifconfig | 14:26 |
TemeV | but as default it is 192.168.2.15 for usb | 14:27 |
Wnt | oh, but it seems that the user nemo doesn't have the permissions to open that directory from via the SFTP either | 14:27 |
coderus | but devmode settings is good for looking for ip too :) | 14:27 |
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Wnt | so you will need e.g. to use the root account to copy that file to somewhere else first | 14:27 |
bennypr0fane | Wnt: right, so it's what I said first | 14:28 |
bennypr0fane | coderus: AND There's An App For That! :-D | 14:29 |
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coderus | bennypr0fane: called Dolphin :) | 14:30 |
Wnt | It might be also possible to use the root account to access the filesystem via sftp but I would not recommend that as it's pretty easy to mess things up | 14:30 |
bennypr0fane | Wnt: isn't it just as easy to do that via ssh? | 14:31 |
coderus | bennypr0fane: devel-su -p bash | 14:31 |
bennypr0fane | coderus I meant for finding the IP. It's called WhatsmyIP | 14:31 |
coderus | bennypr0fane: and then copy that db to ~/ | 14:31 |
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coderus | bennypr0fane: sure, but opening developer settings is too hard? :) | 14:32 |
Wnt | on the command line, as a superuser, you can copy that file to the nemo user's home folder using "cp /home/nemo/.local/share/system/privileged/Calendar/mkcal/db /home/nemo/" and then make it readable by nemo: "chown nemo:nemo /home/nemo/db" | 14:32 |
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Wnt | then you can copy it using the nemo user account via sftp | 14:33 |
bennypr0fane | coderus: nope. but some people may not want to enable that. My goal is to post instructions for everyone to use to back up their calendars while that Jolla does noit have that feature | 14:33 |
sqozz | has anyone an idea, how to set the USB-mode over commandline on my jolla? | 14:33 |
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Wnt | bennypr0fane: I don't think there is any way you can do that without enabling developer mode or installing 3rd party apps at this point | 14:34 |
coderus | Wnt: you dont need to own db file to read it | 14:34 |
bennypr0fane | sqozz no, but There's An App For That | 14:34 |
coderus | you have access denied just because /home/nemo/.local/share/system/privileged/ owned by privileged user | 14:34 |
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bennypr0fane | Wnt: well third party apps are fine | 14:35 |
coderus | bennypr0fane: lol, with no devmode you can't access your device via ssh :) | 14:35 |
coderus | sqozz: what you mean? | 14:35 |
coderus | sqozz: change mode? | 14:35 |
Wnt | bennypr0fane: how do you know that the 3rd party apps wont mess up your phone? | 14:35 |
bennypr0fane | Wnt: never | 14:35 |
dunp | http://www.mtv.fi/uutiset/rikos/artikkeli/nokia-paid-millions-of-euros-in-ransom/3448918 | 14:35 |
bennypr0fane | Wnt: but if they're in the Jolla store, I think it's reasonable to assume they don't | 14:36 |
Wnt | sqozz: https://github.com/jklingen/harbour-usb-switch/blob/master/qml/components/Shells.qml | 14:36 |
Wnt | "usb_moded_util -s charging_only", "usb_moded_util -s pc_suite" etc. | 14:36 |
Wnt | if I quickly read that through correctly | 14:37 |
Wnt | bennypr0fane: yes, I think trusting software in the Jolla store is safe enough. But I'm not sure if it's possible to publish a application there that touches those files | 14:38 |
bennypr0fane | Wnt: I was referring to one app that shows me my Ip, and another that can change the USB mode while plugged in. I don't know of one that can solve my problem | 14:39 |
bennypr0fane | not in Jolla store at least. unless the root access versions of the file manager are there. are they? | 14:40 |
Wnt | bennypr0fane: not in the store for sure | 14:40 |
Wnt | you might find something like that from unofficial software repositories | 14:40 |
bennypr0fane | quick survey: which do you like best: Cargodock, Filebrowser, or Filetug? | 14:41 |
bennypr0fane | I see we also have an ftp server app in Warehouse that allows for sftp access | 14:43 |
bennypr0fane | through an FTP client | 14:43 |
ottulo | File Browser, though sometimes I resort to Filetug; not familiar with Cargodock | 14:43 |
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bennypr0fane | thanks guys, mission accomplished! | 14:54 |
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TemeV | filetug was the best at the time I installed it. I haven't cahgned my filebrowser since :) | 15:17 |
gexc | any possibility for a browser/file manager compatible with fish:// protocol? | 15:18 |
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gexc | dolphin from KDE has it; very handy for accessing the filesystem over wlan | 15:19 |
special | gexc: you could write one? ;) | 15:20 |
* gexc is not a developer :-/ | 15:20 | |
gexc | if I can LOL | 15:21 |
* tbr would rather use sshfs | 15:21 | |
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goroboro | or just sftp | 15:23 |
goroboro | and at worst just scp files back and forth | 15:23 |
tbr | well, I was trying offer something that could be used with a gui file manager | 15:24 |
gexc | is sshfs working on jolla? | 15:24 |
tbr | if not, then it's trivial, as IIRC fuse is already there | 15:26 |
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gexc | ;-) | 15:28 |
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gexc | sshfs works fine in the terminal | 15:38 |
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gexc | but the mount point is not accessible from filemanagers :-/ | 15:39 |
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ninnnu | Why wouldn't it be? | 15:39 |
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gexc | cargodock says 'permission denied' | 15:41 |
goroboro | did you mount while devel-su? | 15:41 |
gexc | no | 15:41 |
gexc | I have set the permission of the mount point to 777 | 15:41 |
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goroboro | did you use fuse to do the mount? | 15:43 |
goroboro | if so... try use the allow_other param | 15:43 |
gexc | sshfs hostname: mountpoint | 15:43 |
gexc | that's the cmd I used | 15:43 |
gexc | the mount point is owned by user 508 :-/ | 15:44 |
ln- | http://www.mtv.fi/uutiset/rikos/artikkeli/nokia-paid-millions-of-euros-in-ransom/3448918 | 15:44 |
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Quu | just saw that one | 15:44 |
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goroboro | try sshfs -o idmap=userhostname: mountpoint | 15:45 |
goroboro | sorry... space betweent user and hostname | 15:45 |
goroboro | I think that your user on the other host has UID 508 | 15:46 |
goroboro | so there is a mapping issue | 15:46 |
gexc | -o allow_other works | 15:46 |
gexc | :-o | 15:46 |
goroboro | yeah... that removes all perms... probably the other suggestion is better | 15:46 |
goroboro | that will just map your userid on both hosts | 15:47 |
goroboro | so: sshfs -o idmap=user hostname: mountpoint | 15:48 |
goroboro | that's a neater solution as it doesn't mean any user on your phone has access to the mountpoint | 15:48 |
goroboro | not that you're likley to have multiple users on your phone :D | 15:48 |
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goroboro | btw... I created a stupid little app on openrepos that uses djmount to mount upnp shares | 15:49 |
goroboro | it uses a simple python script... which I guess you could modify to do sshfs | 15:49 |
goroboro | instead of djmount | 15:49 |
goroboro | its very very basic... but just gives you an icon to display if the mount is mounted or not... clicking on the icon either mounts or dismounts | 15:50 |
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goroboro | I think the app was called DJMounter (very original) | 15:50 |
gexc | cool | 15:51 |
gexc | idmap=user doesn't work :O | 15:51 |
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gexc | strange... | 15:51 |
goroboro | the code is incredibly simple and its a bit embarrassing to call it an app... but check it out, because you could probably hack it to do what you want | 15:51 |
goroboro | gexc: ho hum... I haven't played with sshfs much | 15:52 |
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goroboro | at least the allow_other works | 15:52 |
gexc | yeah... | 15:52 |
gexc | so allow_other may introduce some security issue? | 15:53 |
goroboro | only if you have multiple users accessing your phone | 15:53 |
goroboro | not serious | 15:53 |
gexc | I'll check that app out ;-) | 15:53 |
goroboro | it just means that they can all access the mount | 15:53 |
goroboro | you usually don't have multiple users set up on your phone | 15:54 |
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goroboro | brb... have a meeting | 15:54 |
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gexc | hmm... | 16:00 |
gexc | just filetug launched from the terminal can access the mount point | 16:01 |
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gexc | if using idmap=user | 16:01 |
gexc | even if without idmap=user LOL | 16:03 |
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pdanek | Today I had one problem. | 16:07 |
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pdanek | When my battery was at 5%. | 16:07 |
pdanek | I tried to call -> phone turned off. I started it, system was stable -> tried to call phone turned off. | 16:08 |
pdanek | So I charged my phone up to 14% of battery. And again tried to call -> phone turned off. | 16:08 |
pdanek | So I continued charging up to ~20% and then I was able to call. | 16:09 |
special | Sage_: ^ does that sound like your kind of problem? | 16:09 |
pdanek | There shouldn't be such feature/bug to turn off the phone when low batter + calling. :) | 16:11 |
pdanek | Imagine you are in life danger, you have last 5% battery missing, phone allows you to watch HD movie, but doesn't allow you to initiate call to save your life. :) | 16:11 |
pdanek | Maybe I can set it up somewhere. | 16:12 |
special | it's certainly not intentional | 16:12 |
kimmoli | same happens with my firends android phone, acerr something | 16:12 |
pdanek | I see. | 16:12 |
tbr | it also sounds like phdeswer might want to look at it but he's not online | 16:12 |
special | if it's shutting down, it's either 1) the reboots problem, or 2) legitimately so low on battery that it feels it cannot continue and needs to shut down | 16:12 |
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pdanek | Then battery indicator must be wrong. | 16:13 |
tbr | it could also be something with the battery contacts | 16:13 |
special | was it a clean shutdown with the logo and all, or did it just suddenly go off? | 16:13 |
pdanek | Anyway, phone turned on fine, enough battery to turn on and do any tasks. Just initiating call shutted it down. | 16:13 |
pdanek | Suddenly off, display off. | 16:13 |
pdanek | immediate halt | 16:14 |
special | yeah, that's not the low battery shutdown | 16:14 |
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tbr | call setup powers on the GSM output to full initially. it might lead to a power surge that goes beyond what the PMIC deems 'safe' and triggers an emergency shutdown | 16:14 |
tbr | on 3G I'm not sure if it does that | 16:14 |
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tbr | pdanek: I wonder if you could try cleaning the battery pads and the mating pins on the phone a bit. Avoid touching them with your fingers (grease) but rather just wipe them a few times gently with a metal edge or screw driver. doesn't need to be hard. | 16:16 |
tbr | and then put some paper between battery and phone on the opposite end, to press it well against the pins | 16:17 |
tbr | and then try to reproduce | 16:17 |
tbr | also beware not to bend the pins by accident, that would be bad, mkaaaaay. | 16:18 |
pdanek | yes, I had this batterry/paper issue, but this is not related | 16:18 |
pdanek | it shutted down 3 times, repetive, at the same moment after I clicked to call one of my contacts | 16:19 |
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pdanek | without even being able to put it on my ear | 16:19 |
tbr | could you try it anyway? bring down battery to where it will shut down as it is and then try cleaning the pins | 16:19 |
pdanek | I can try to reproduce | 16:20 |
pdanek | but I charge every night | 16:20 |
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pdanek | how can I now use all my battery intentionally? | 16:20 |
pdanek | what's best way? | 16:20 |
tbr | well, then don't charge it tonight :) | 16:20 |
pdanek | I need to charge it tonight :P | 16:20 |
pdanek | I'm on 70% battery | 16:21 |
pdanek | if you help me how to get it down to 5% in 2 hours | 16:21 |
pdanek | I'll reproduce :) | 16:21 |
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Yaniel | try the sph water simulatiob | 16:21 |
pdanek | In warehouse? | 16:22 |
tbr | screen on full brightness and something that does a _lot_ of 3D | 16:22 |
Yaniel | I think it got accepted to harbour too | 16:22 |
tbr | bbl | 16:22 |
Yaniel | the water simulation with water particles :P | 16:22 |
Yaniel | ie not points or spheres | 16:22 |
pdanek | obviously I can't disable sleep | 16:22 |
pdanek | maximum 15 min. | 16:22 |
pdanek | :( | 16:22 |
pdanek | Jolla doesn't give me "choice" | 16:23 |
pdanek | :D | 16:23 |
Yaniel | that thing literally eats the cpu, and with particles the gpu too | 16:23 |
_Razor_ | [5~ | 16:23 |
_Razor_ | :) | 16:23 |
_Razor_ | sorry | 16:23 |
pdanek | ok getting water sim | 16:23 |
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pdanek | from starstuff? | 16:24 |
pdanek | turning onm tethering as well | 16:24 |
pdanek | + bluetooth | 16:24 |
Yaniel | yep, that one | 16:25 |
pdanek | can I max the settings of simulation? | 16:26 |
pdanek | won't it burn my phone? | 16:26 |
Yaniel | it hasn't burned mine | 16:26 |
pdanek | on full stats? | 16:26 |
Yaniel | but it might get a bit slow :D | 16:26 |
pdanek | incompressibility | 16:26 |
pdanek | what's that | 16:26 |
pdanek | should I keep it good or best? | 16:27 |
pdanek | I have chosen particles btw | 16:27 |
pdanek | not fluif | 16:27 |
pdanek | fluid* | 16:27 |
Yaniel | it is just a multiplier for the calculations | 16:27 |
Yaniel | fluid is the most gpu intensive | 16:27 |
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Yaniel | because it has blending and lighting | 16:28 |
pdanek | ok | 16:28 |
pdanek | all on full | 16:28 |
pdanek | the batterry drops fast! | 16:28 |
Yaniel | it is also fun to play with | 16:29 |
pdanek | it reacts on accelerometer!!!!!!!! | 16:29 |
pdanek | cool | 16:29 |
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pdanek | the simulation automatically pauses after a while | 16:40 |
pdanek | when I don't babysit it | 16:40 |
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pdanek | I dropped 20% | 16:52 |
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gexc | is the phone burning now? LOL | 16:56 |
pdanek | no because I don't have time to babysit it all the time | 16:58 |
pdanek | and when the water is still | 16:58 |
pdanek | it doesn't need GPU | 16:58 |
pdanek | I need to attach it to some constantly moving part | 16:59 |
pdanek | like... | 16:59 |
pdanek | my head, when I sit | 16:59 |
pdanek | under the cap! | 16:59 |
pdanek | let me try :D | 16:59 |
pdanek | I have no duct tape at home | 17:00 |
Sage_ | pdanek: can you send /var/log/systemboot.log to any pastebin works | 17:00 |
gexc | maybe you can get some android benchmark app to murder the battery ;-) | 17:02 |
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pdanek | hehe | 17:02 |
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pdanek | Sage_: those are my 3 shutdowns: | 17:16 |
pdanek | 20140617_154149 Startup: pwr_on_status=pwr_on_by_HW_SMPL | 17:17 |
pdanek | 20140617_154149 Received: dsme internal state USER | 17:17 |
pdanek | 20140617_154351 Startup: pwr_on_status=pwr_on_by_HW_SMPL | 17:17 |
pdanek | 20140617_154352 Received: dsme internal state USER | 17:17 |
pdanek | 20140617_155343 Startup: pwr_on_status=pwr_on_by_HW_SMPL | 17:17 |
pdanek | 20140617_155343 Received: dsme internal state USER | 17:17 |
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Kabouik | Hey there! I received an sms from Belgium (I'm in France). I got the number correctly (+32 XXX), but cannot answer. Jolla says there was an issue with sending my message, and I can retry but the same will happen. My subscription allows international calls, already tested it many times with various countries | 17:31 |
Kabouik | Although it's true I've never tried Belgium so far, but it is included. | 17:31 |
Kabouik | Any ideas? | 17:31 |
special | are you able to successfully send SMS to other numbers? | 17:33 |
Kabouik | Absolutely | 17:33 |
special | (right now, I mean) | 17:33 |
Kabouik | Can only try with France though, but I used to do it to other countries a few months earlier | 17:34 |
Kabouik | Yes | 17:34 |
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special | and swiping to the left to see the contact card from that conversation, it shows a normal, valid phone number? | 17:34 |
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Kabouik | Yes, I checked it with the person directly | 17:34 |
Kabouik | And he confirmed +32 is the indicative for Belgium | 17:35 |
special | do you have developer mode around? | 17:35 |
Kabouik | Yes | 17:35 |
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special | as root, /system/bin/logcat -b radio -v time | 17:37 |
special | and try sending it again | 17:37 |
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Kabouik | The Jolla is still working after entering the command, will try sending the sms again asap | 17:39 |
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Sail0r | http://momentsmartwatch.com | 17:47 |
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pdanek | Which Android runtime Jolla has? | 17:59 |
pdanek | Android 4.3? | 17:59 |
Stskeeps | 4.1.2 | 18:00 |
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pdanek | BlackBerry is about to get 4.3 :O | 18:00 |
ggabriel | good(?) for them | 18:01 |
pdanek | probably | 18:02 |
ggabriel | maybe sailfish gets it in the big autumn update | 18:02 |
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pdanek | yea, read about that one.... is it gonna be the biggest update to date? | 18:03 |
pdanek | total revamp? :D | 18:03 |
Eztran | 4.1.x is still the most-used Android version IIRC, so it's not the biggest loss not to be ahead of it. | 18:03 |
ggabriel | i haven't used android just yet on the jolla :P | 18:04 |
pdanek | sure, I was just stating the fact about BB -> 4.3 | 18:04 |
pdanek | not saying Jolla is somehow behind | 18:04 |
Eztran | Sure. | 18:05 |
pdanek | Just seems useful to mention, as Jolla and BB10 are probably the only 2 platforms with Android runtime? | 18:05 |
pdanek | And both take it as a priority. | 18:05 |
Eztran | Certainly the only ones with publicity for it :) | 18:05 |
ggabriel | uhm... hopefully the big update is not all about android | 18:06 |
pdanek | :) | 18:06 |
ggabriel | and more about features/fixes | 18:06 |
ggabriel | e.g., thread support in the mail application and whatnot | 18:06 |
ggabriel | api's for devs | 18:06 |
ggabriel | stuff like that | 18:06 |
pdanek | paid apps | 18:06 |
Eztran | Considering compatibility already seems pretty decent, prioritising other stuff sounds about right. | 18:06 |
ggabriel | don't really care about my-fav-google-app-that-uses-bt-and-gps-and-sends-all-my-data-to-google | 18:07 |
ggabriel | paid apps comes 2nd half of this year | 18:07 |
ggabriel | as announced | 18:07 |
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Kabouik | Is that normal that the Jolla is still working after the command you gave me special? | 18:13 |
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special | Kabouik: yes, it should just give a bunch of output when you do cellular things. | 18:14 |
Yaniel | yes, it should just show you logs | 18:14 |
Kabouik | Ah, I was waiting. Silly me. -.- | 18:14 |
Kabouik | Then I can say that seding the message still fails, and the failure is almost instantaneous | 18:14 |
special | and no output from that command? | 18:15 |
Kabouik | Quite hard to find anything readable in that output | 18:15 |
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special | look for 'sms' or 'SEND_SMS'? | 18:16 |
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Kabouik | http://hastebin.com/uzucemebif.coffee | 18:18 |
special | that looks successful, I think? | 18:19 |
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Kabouik | It isn't, still have the message error and the icon to resend it | 18:19 |
Kabouik | And the recipient did not get anything | 18:19 |
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special | ah | 18:20 |
special | that second PDU tells us more | 18:20 |
ggabriel | looks bad :P | 18:20 |
special | Status: Incompatible destination (permanent error) | 18:20 |
Kabouik | http://hastebin.com/anequlagat.avrasm Not sure the log was full, that one might be better | 18:20 |
special | that is a response from the network | 18:20 |
Kabouik | Belgium though is in my subscription :( | 18:21 |
Kabouik | (http://mobile.international.free.fr/?pays=Belgique -> extra cost, but possible) | 18:22 |
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special | see private message, but | 18:23 |
special | it looks like it's sent out fine, and rejected by the network | 18:23 |
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ggabriel | easy test: try another phone | 18:23 |
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sqozz | do someone know if i can access the gps on my jolla as serial device? | 19:35 |
Stskeeps | you can't | 19:36 |
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Stskeeps | but | 19:36 |
Stskeeps | what do you have in mind? | 19:36 |
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sqozz | hmm want to get kismet with build-in-gps support | 19:38 |
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ShadowJK | Well, today jolla is only thing able to access $work mfe. web no go, real exchange no go, but jolla works | 20:06 |
pdanek | That installation of G.Play apps from web works with Jolla too! | 20:11 |
pdanek | cool | 20:11 |
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stephg | ShadowJK: I think your exchange environment may be a little messed up ;) | 20:21 |
pdanek | Interesting how even corporations are moving into Google Apps instead of Exchange. | 20:22 |
pdanek | I always thought that Google Apps is for small & middle sized companies, apparently not. | 20:23 |
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sqozz | okay.. something odd is going on, on my phone.. when i connect via usb/ssh ip as ifconfig is not availible - on fingerterm "ip addr" lists all interfaces. Can someone give me a hint? | 20:26 |
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sdjayna | sqozz: /sbin isn't in your path when you connect via usb/ssh but is via fingerterm, not sure why though.. | 20:29 |
sdjayna | ie. not my area ;) | 20:29 |
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sqozz | sdjayna: thats it.. unfortunately i recently stumble across the lack of monitoring mode of the jolla-networking-chip :// | 20:36 |
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SpeedEvil | http://yro.slashdot.org/story/14/06/17/1939245/nokia-extorted-for-millions-over-stolen-encryption-keys (2007) | 20:41 |
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Stskeeps | the real reason they shut down symbian? | 20:42 |
SpeedEvil | heh | 20:43 |
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raa79 | well, at least it's a proper reason for that | 20:43 |
sqozz | sorry for all the fans of symbian, but symbian was shut down because it was broken by design ;) | 20:44 |
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slate | coderus made a patch to s3 so you could install unsigned sisx-files? | 20:52 |
slate | If I remember correct | 20:52 |
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coderus | slate: no, it was other russian guy, not me :) | 20:54 |
slate | So you are not a millionare? | 20:55 |
slate | ;) | 20:55 |
coderus | no, i'm poor young developer | 20:56 |
coderus | but who cares | 20:56 |
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stephg | aww :) | 21:02 |
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coderus | :) | 21:09 |
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ShadowJK | hm what's this android support update | 21:32 |
stephg | don't know | 21:33 |
stephg | only thing I've noticed since is now it has an app icon | 21:33 |
stephg | don't recall there being a changelog in the store | 21:33 |
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ShadowJK | nope, comments full of people crying for a changelog | 21:38 |
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phlixi | and there is an accepted answer regarding the changelog: https://together.jolla.com/question/47469/androidtm-support-update-for-1071610718/ | 21:47 |
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