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inte` | chem|st: ah its just an app got it from harbor or openrepo don't know, doesn't matter. Good night | 00:14 |
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Nicd- | so my jolla started closing apps, maybe because the memory and swap are entirely full | 03:39 |
Nicd- | /usr/bin/messageserver5 is using about 150 MB (RSS), is that normal? | 03:40 |
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gexc | time to anticipate update 8? | 05:52 |
Bysmyyr | :) | 05:53 |
tbr | gexc: wasn't it told that there will be no july update? or was that no august update? | 05:53 |
gexc | august? | 05:54 |
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rangoy | Some rumors says that there should be a july update, eg http://www.gsmarena.com/jollas_sailfish_os_update_8_coming_in_july_update_9__end_of_q3-news-8763.php | 06:24 |
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pp | july update, then vacation :-) | 06:50 |
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xmlich02 | hi, I wasn't able to answer phone call, the app seems to be dead (screen shot will follow). | 08:18 |
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tbr | logs or it didn't happen. ;) | 08:23 |
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xmlich02 | and here is the promised screenshot http://pcmlich.fit.vutbr.cz/tmp/20140701101713.png | 09:18 |
xmlich02 | tbr, what kind of log you want? /var/log/messages? | 09:18 |
tbr | xmlich02: look into journal if that hasn't rolled over yet | 09:18 |
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xmlich02 | journalctl -l; says "No journal files were found." | 09:21 |
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inte | you should be root | 09:26 |
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inte | and its -f | 09:27 |
inte | i guess | 09:27 |
inte | ah no -l is just fine for your purpose | 09:28 |
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AL13N_work | chem|st: fuck, .fi --> .fr --> .fi --> .se --> .fr | 10:06 |
AL13N_work | it's starting... :-( | 10:06 |
AL13N_work | fedex is fucking it up again... | 10:07 |
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inte | oh no | 10:08 |
meklu | wow, how did that .se happen? | 10:12 |
Nicd- | hahaha :D | 10:13 |
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SK_work | AL13N_work: infinite loop | 10:15 |
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dr_gogeta86 | copiling my first jolla kernel module | 10:18 |
dr_gogeta86 | i'm bit scared btw | 10:18 |
inte | module for what? | 10:20 |
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dr_gogeta86 | intermediate function block | 10:21 |
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dr_gogeta86 | usefull for traffic shaping purpuses | 10:21 |
inte | ok good luck | 10:22 |
inte | i was thinking of trying out fde on the jolla | 10:22 |
inte | should be possible with truecrypt | 10:23 |
inte | and reconfiguring initrd | 10:23 |
inte | on the other hand, probably too much work | 10:23 |
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AL13N_work | meklu: i have no idea | 10:24 |
AL13N_work | dr_gogeta86: you could speak with raim, he's built some before for me | 10:25 |
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Sail0r | http://www.jollausers.com/2014/07/video-swype-keyboard-teaser-for-sailfish-os/ | 10:49 |
Bysmyyr | ooh! | 10:49 |
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Sail0r | looks awesome | 10:51 |
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stephg | shiney | 10:54 |
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chem|st | AL13N_work: at least yours is moving | 10:59 |
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AL13N_work | if only it would move in my general direction | 11:02 |
AL13N_work | instead of away | 11:03 |
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xmlich02 | tbr, I didn't realized, that I need to run journalctl under root user. Here is the log http://pcmlich.fit.vutbr.cz/tmp/jolla-journal.txt | 11:10 |
tbr | xmlich02: well, I don't need it, but special or some other sailor might find it helpful | 11:11 |
tbr | also might help to specify at which time this problem occurred to narrow down the search in the log | 11:12 |
xmlich02 | It was today about 10:17 CEST | 11:13 |
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xmlich02 | The message is probably gone )-; | 11:13 |
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giucam | xmlich02: so you got a call and was unable to answer? | 11:23 |
giucam | xmlich02: was the phone app unresponsive? | 11:23 |
xmlich02 | giucam, yes. See screen shot http://pcmlich.fit.vutbr.cz/tmp/20140701101713.png | 11:24 |
giucam | xmlich02: yeah, i saw. do you still have it open? | 11:25 |
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xmlich02 | I had to make the phone call, so I rebooted.. | 11:26 |
giucam | ah | 11:27 |
Anz_ | is it like an issue due to the gui part.. there was 'any key answer' option on old phønes. something of that sort shall be helpful in this kinda situations? | 11:28 |
AL13N_work | phønes | 11:31 |
AL13N_work | lol | 11:31 |
giucam | phönes, rather. isn't ø norwegian? | 11:32 |
AL13N_work | i though swedish | 11:32 |
meklu | ø is norwegian/danish | 11:32 |
meklu | swedish uses ö | 11:32 |
ruskie | well sorted the client side cert for now but do wish that the browser would provide an UI to select the cert properly | 11:32 |
AL13N_work | ah | 11:32 |
special | xmlich02: yeah, there aren't any calls in that journal | 11:34 |
special | xmlich02: weird looking cover, though. | 11:34 |
special | no idea what would cause that.. | 11:35 |
special | ruskie: browser is OSS, you can add one! ;) | 11:35 |
xmlich02 | Next time, I will try to catch log before reboot. | 11:36 |
ruskie | special, browser has one | 11:37 |
ruskie | just need cosmetic fixes to make it usable | 11:37 |
ruskie | something I'm not really quallified to do | 11:37 |
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special | xmlich02: we have seen some similar reports and there have been improvements, for what it's worth.. | 11:38 |
dr_gogeta86 | special: shit works | 11:44 |
special | hm? | 11:45 |
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dr_gogeta86 | ifb interface on jolla | 11:48 |
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Anz_ | AL13N_work: :) yeah, Jolla keyboard sometimes graciously offers accented letters accidentally. May be I shall remove all such characters from the English keyboard layout | 12:05 |
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AL13N_work | Anz_: it would be better, if the jolla keyboard could detect multiple languages in the same message :-) | 12:14 |
AL13N_work | or at least autodetect which language (and thus also the personal words) | 12:14 |
AL13N_work | otoh, i'm still waiting for the azerty (.be) one :-/ | 12:15 |
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Anz_ | the point was.. volume bottons shall answer an incoming call (and the power button may reject( | 12:20 |
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AL13N_work | oh that | 12:22 |
AL13N_work | i don't quite agree about that, if i grab it out of my pocket, i'll have accidentally accepted or rejected | 12:23 |
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Anz_ | well, just a suggestion ..if someone is unable to answer major share of incoming calls due to laggy ui. an unlikely user case like: “honey, when I call.. just pick the damn phöne; dont wait to put on the lipstick!” | 12:30 |
special | a lagging ui is a bug, and you don't fix bugs with features | 12:32 |
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Aard | we could do ear detection via front camera to auto-answer calls | 12:36 |
Nicd- | that would be cool | 12:41 |
meklu | that doesn't sound too good | 12:41 |
meklu | an unreliable feature is worse than no feature, IMO | 12:42 |
Nicd- | doesn't one of the samsung galaxys already have that? | 12:42 |
meklu | I think you'd have to at the very least combine that with a proximity sensor | 12:42 |
Nicd- | it also has "silence call by turning phone's display downwards" which my friend uses | 12:42 |
meklu | eh, I'd rather have the volume down button do that | 12:43 |
Anz_ | answering an incoming phone call is the one most basic feature of any phone. IMHO a hard button wont do any harm | 12:43 |
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Anz_ | special: true; bugs are to be individually addressed and fixed. but then there are workarounds and alternate features too.. that can 'get things done' while waiting for the fix. | 12:54 |
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inte` | samsung always had this silence call feature | 12:57 |
inte` | even with their bada phones | 12:57 |
inte` | 5 years ago | 12:57 |
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inte` | it's nice, though | 12:57 |
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inte` | is there any word on nfc, like when it will become available or if there is a possibility to use the inbuild nfc module for anything else than detecting thos? | 12:58 |
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flux | I suppose it'd be possible to use the NFC for other things if you have a TOH without the tag. | 13:34 |
flux | but jolla doesn't like that, because I imagine it was their investor pitch to have those smart covers ;) | 13:34 |
flux | and as removing the tag from existing covers might be a bit destructive, the way to do that is to 3d-print your cover. | 13:35 |
pp | that or they didn't get around to implementing a proper antenna :-) | 13:35 |
flux | well, if you put your 'nfc' item right next to where the current tag is, I imagine it would work | 13:35 |
flux | another alternative would be to have another NFC reader in a TOH | 13:36 |
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flux | probably quite straightforward to hook one up | 13:36 |
flux | PN532 seems a popular NFC chip | 13:37 |
flux | it requies an oscillator and does SPI | 13:38 |
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flux | ..and i2c and serial | 13:39 |
dunp | http://www.noip.com/blog/2014/06/30/ips-formal-statement-microsoft-takedown/ :( | 13:41 |
kimmoli_sailing_ | was thinking passice amplifier for nfc, as the own antenna is meant only for few mm distance. lets see. but nfc toh is another option. then integration with sw is another thing in both cases | 13:43 |
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chem|st | will a 2.5mm bushing fit with the contacts and toh? seem to be unable to find smaller bushings | 13:54 |
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chem|st | AL13N_work: seems mine is lost | 14:01 |
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inte | what is a bushing? | 14:16 |
inte | ok, using google:) | 14:16 |
inte | chem|st: Du hast die ganze Kopfhörerbuchse verloren!?!?! | 14:23 |
AL13N_work | chem|st: :-( | 14:24 |
AL13N_work | chem|st: somehow, i had a feeling it might | 14:24 |
jake9xx | Du Hast mentioned [x] (Rammstein) | 14:24 |
AL13N_work | chem|st: the driver should really be sued for stealing it | 14:24 |
AL13N_work | jake9xx: ... | 14:24 |
chem|st | inte: lol - lötmuffe, muffe = bushing Germans have to many words ending in one and the same in english | 14:25 |
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AL13N_work | chem|st: perhaps you should check ebay or the likes for your serial number | 14:27 |
inte | :) | 14:28 |
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chem|st | AL13N_work: Jolla might take care of it, don't know yet | 14:55 |
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AL13N_work | chem|st: it still sucks, especially since it's a first one | 15:19 |
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chem|st | AL13N_work: especially as it was working fine apart of the vibe-motor | 15:43 |
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ottulo | tä | 16:16 |
ottulo | ^ignore that | 16:16 |
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Almindor | hey | 16:24 |
Almindor | is there a "shared clipboard" support/app for Jolla and Linux/Mac/Windows? | 16:24 |
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Bambucane | hi | 17:45 |
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inte | Almindor: "have clipboard" | 17:57 |
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inte | never used it though | 17:57 |
inte | but might be what youre looking for | 17:58 |
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pdanek1 | Swype on Jolla! The hype! | 18:54 |
inte | ?? | 18:55 |
inte | there is no swype on jolla yet | 18:55 |
inte | is it? | 18:55 |
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pdanek1 | inte: http://www.jollausers.com/2014/07/video-swype-keyboard-teaser-for-sailfish-os/ | 18:57 |
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AL13N | isn't that just a preview from someone who got it working? | 19:00 |
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inte | damed that vid isnt running in konqueror | 19:06 |
inte | cool | 19:09 |
inte | looks like on the n9 | 19:09 |
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Stskeeps | good evening | 19:14 |
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locusf | how does one go about when needing to manually extract apps from out of folders? | 19:30 |
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Morpog_PC | https://together.jolla.com/question/49191/we-love-features-but/ | 20:39 |
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cvp_ | Morpog_PC: sure, ug fix are importend... but not all want wait 1 year to get features what he/she like | 20:59 |
cvp_ | *bug | 21:00 |
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M4rtinK | Morpog_PC: kernel used to work like that IIRC | 21:13 |
M4rtinK | stable/development releases | 21:13 |
M4rtinK | but they dropped some years ago and do mixed releases since then | 21:13 |
M4rtinK | some projects, such as for example Gnome, still do stable (even numbered) and development (odd numbered) releases | 21:14 |
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stephg | ahoy! | 21:45 |
cvp_ | hi | 21:46 |
chem|st | looking at the changelog of the last release, there is pretty much all love gone to bugfixes, some minor features and LTE which is not a feature request that was a missing spec | 21:54 |
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