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mornfallhttp://linux.slashdot.org/story/14/07/04/1455200/qualcomm-takes-down-100-github-repositories-with-dmca-notice oh joy08:32
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mornfall(and my jolla was so ashamed it rebooted itself immediately upon the news... meh :P)08:33
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tadzik....huh. Am I the only one around here for whom the "swipe sideways on lockscreen for ambiances" doesn't work?10:18
tadzikI've seen this in plenty of videos, but it does nothing on my device10:19
Stskeepsyou need to have >2 favourites afaik10:19
FireFly≥2 I'm pretty sure10:20
tadzik2 is fine, apparently10:20
tadzikthanks, that works10:20
tadziknot that I long for that feature, but it got my "what's wrong with me" sense tingling10:21
Stskeepsyess10:21
FireFlyI wish that edge action could be used for something more interesting10:21
FireFlyBut ah well, can't have it all :p10:21
Stskeepstadzik: did you manage to get things upgraded?10:21
tadzikStskeeps: yes, I put the phone right on the AP at work, and after a reboot it upgraded nicely10:21
Stskeepsok10:21
FireFlyI realise Jolla tries to market to less techy people too10:21
tadzikStskeeps: works perfectly well now, apart from acting weird about mobile data once10:21
tadzikFireFly: patchmanager enables you to put settings in there10:22
FireFlyHm10:22
M4rtinKFireFly: IMHO there is quite a lot wasted potential in the edge action at the moment10:22
tadzikwell, part of the settings, but still neat10:22
FireFlythat's useful10:22
tadzikthere or in the notification area, I went for the latter10:22
FireFlyI don't use the notification area much either, so I'd go for settings then10:22
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M4rtinKwell, there really isn't anything in the notification area anyway :)10:23
FireFlyThere probably is if you connect your Facebook and Twitter accounts to the device10:23
M4rtinKreally hope this improves in the future10:23
M4rtinKwell I use Twitter10:23
M4rtinKand not much10:23
tadzikhuh, I made a screenshot and it's not in my gallery10:23
FireFlyHm, okay10:23
M4rtinKI think you can send tweets and get retweet notifications10:24
tadzikbut it it *somewhere*. Where are you hiding, screenshot10:24
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M4rtinKbut you cant even read those notifications on the screen - it switches you to browser twitter UI10:24
tadziknah10:24
tadzikI can read them alright10:24
M4rtinKeven if you have a real Twitter client installed10:25
tadziknever starts the browser10:25
tadzik(and I don't)10:25
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M4rtinKoh, right10:25
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tadzikok, this is weird. I have a file in Pictures/screenshots, and the gallery is unaware of it10:25
FireFlywell, might be an embedded browser thing10:25
M4rtinKmus have been some time since I've tried it last time10:25
* Stskeeps is playing with a nokia xl and suddenly feels a lot less worse about jolla ui..10:26
M4rtinKmakes the notification screen less useless :)10:26
FireFlyStskeeps: you shouldn't feel bad about the sailfish UI at all10:26
tadzikcan I poke the tracker to restart itself, like on maemo?10:26
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specialtadzik: see tracker-control, and probably also systemctl --user restart tracker.service10:27
FireFlytadzik: see if it registers a photo first10:27
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FireFlyI remember someone suggesting on tjc that Gallery/Photos should only show photos, and not all pictures, but I dunno if anything came out of that10:28
tadzikno, it did not10:28
FireFlyoh, okay10:28
FireFlythen it's tracker issues I guess10:28
tadzikit previously worked for screenshots. I'll poke the tracker10:28
FireFlyokay10:28
ggabrielhow do normal users poke the tracker btw?10:29
ggabrieland hi everyone10:29
ggabrieli.e., without terminal10:29
specialthey shouldn't have to10:29
tadzik"Unit tracker.service failed to load: no such file or dir"10:29
M4rtinKfor the record, tracker found some pictures that have the creation date set to the future on my Jolla10:29
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specialtadzik: then I guess it's named something else10:29
M4rtinKso I now have to scroll thorugh ~10 pages in the gallery to get to latest fotos :)10:30
tadzikhm, should I look for it in /etc/init.d or somewhere?10:30
M4rtinKevery time :)10:30
specialsystemctl --user | grep tracker10:30
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M4rtinKso some simple category selection like on the N9/N900 - all/taken by camera/other would be welcome :)10:30
ggabrielspecial: shouldn't being the key words :)10:30
Stskeepstadzik: init.d is so 90's, we use lennartd10:31
tadzikspecial: aha! tracker-miner-fs.service -- loaded failed fail10:31
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tadzikthat sounds pessimistic10:31
M4rtinKactually some of the recently added Systemd features fit almost perfectly to Sailfish OS use cases :)10:32
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tadzikalright, now it found stuff10:32
M4rtinKthat stateless stuff, NTP, DHCP, etc.10:32
tadzikis there no service that watches other services and pokes them when they're down?10:32
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tadzikStskeeps: oh, I'm okay with this :) MTP moved the Overton's window so much recently that I consider systemd completely fine10:33
M4rtinKBTW, I remember reading somewhere Lennart also has a Jolla :)10:33
tadzikone of us, one of us.... ;)10:33
EztranWell, it's got systemd on it, how could he not?10:33
M4rtinKexactly10:33
tadzikanyways, here's a promised screenshot: http://imgur.com/qCPMhqR10:33
tadzikFireFly: ^10:33
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M4rtinKtadzik: that looks very handy!10:37
FireFlyOh, neat10:38
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walokramuch more usefull than those fb/twitter stuff10:47
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tadzikyeah, easy access to these settings shortcuts was something I was missing from maemo/android10:48
tadziknow it's all there10:48
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walokrawindows phone got that just recently with wp8.1. took couple of years for ms to implement that :)11:00
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AL13NStskeeps: haha: lennartd11:11
tadzik. o O ( It's funny because it's true )11:12
M4rtinKwell, there are quite a lot of people working on systemd these days11:13
M4rtinKand While Lennard & Kay are probably the most active, there are many others11:13
M4rtinK*Lennart11:14
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suyhttps://github.com/systemd/systemd/graphs/contributors  This is nice when you want to know the bus factor of a project.11:26
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CosmicDuckhi there, I tried to connect my jolla to my pc via bt. but the passcode was different. Now jolla says every time to reconnect the passcodes are not the same. So I want to restart the complete coupling from beginning. Any idea how I can remove the old coppling from the jolla so I can recoupling?12:21
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Yanielsettings -> bluetooth -> long press on device -> forget device12:24
Yanielyou need to have bluetooth enabled to see the list of paired devices12:25
CosmicDuckthe problem is that the computer is not allready full paired with my jolla vice versa.12:28
CosmicDuckso I is shown in the "other devices in the near" section. Long pressing is not working.12:28
CosmicDuckI've removed the jolla device now from my computer and try it again. But the message still is the same :-(12:30
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CosmicDuckI tried now the coupling from my computer to my jolla. My jolla is asked from my computer for pairing so I used now 0000 as passcode and allow access. Then accept. ....12:34
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CosmicDuckat the moment my computer tries still to connect to my jolla :-/12:34
CosmicDuckMy computer is debian wheezy with kde running. 4ui12:35
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CosmicDuckok, little bit stupid. repairing from my pc has now been worked. But repairing from jolla was never work if allready a pairing has to been aborted :-(12:41
CosmicDuckI will try to reproduce the issue12:41
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CosmicDuckDoes anybody knows where the potcasts from qpodder are stored? On N900 there was in Podcasts directory.13:09
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tadzikCosmicDuck: I don't know about qpodder, but for gpodder I found them in ./.local/share/harbour-org.gpodder.sailfish/Welcome to Night Vale13:15
tadzik(/home/nemo/.local/...)13:15
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tadzikcrazy shower idea: a Frankenhalf. TOH which is full of slots where you can stick any hardware you wish: a battery, an OLED, an eInk, whatever. So it would end up being like the google ara thing: http://images.designntrend.com/data/images/full/17794/google-ara-project.jpg13:27
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M4rtinKtadzik: yeah, that might work for some hardware13:32
M4rtinKtadzik: a while ago already there was an idea for a common TOH stacking interface13:32
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M4rtinKso you could stack additional battery/batteries on top of a TOH13:33
M4rtinKor reverse13:33
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tadzikright; I sort of expected that'd be a standard TOH feature13:35
tadzikJolla feels a bit thin after the N900, I wouldn't mind putting 2 or 3 batteries on it...13:35
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FireFlyHaha13:35
tadzikI once measured that the N900 was thicker than 2 macbooks airs stacked13:36
tadzikhowever you pluralize that13:37
CosmicDuckis there a base other half 3d file for modify and printing the other half by ourself on 3d printer available?13:38
Yanielyes! there is such a thing!13:38
Yanielcalled the TOH  dev kit or so13:38
Yanielhttp://jolla.com/the-other-half-developer-kit13:39
CosmicDuckthx13:39
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AL13Nwhat vcard version  is supported v3 or v4 or ?13:46
AL13Nfor importing contacts?13:46
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specialgood question13:46
tadzikhmm. I imported mine from android 4.x, it worked :o13:46
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tadzikno eye deer though13:47
specialhttps://github.com/nemomobile/libcontacts/blob/master/src/seasidecache.cpp#L2850 shows us that it's just default versit settings13:48
specialversit seems to support vcard 4.013:48
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tadzikI like how Sailfish is built on top of nemo and doesn't even hide it too much :)13:48
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specialit surprises me how little people take advantage of that.13:49
specialmost of the code is on github, and all of our changes to it are made and reviewed live on github13:50
specialyou can learn almost anything you'd want to know from there13:50
tadzikI suppose some people may not be quite aware of it13:51
tadzik"Sailfish is an arcane OS with the source code available somewhere" rather than "Sailfish is this shiny QML layer on top of githubbed Nemo"13:51
specialit is a somewhat daunting number of repositories13:51
specialthere are 166 under nemomobile, 113 under nemomobile-packages, 95 under mer-packages13:52
specialplus mer-qt and sailfishos13:52
tadzikone would need a map :D13:53
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AL13Nlooks like the vcardexporter uses 3.013:55
AL13Ni need to generate a vcf from some odd html backup of some of my lost contacts13:55
AL13Nso i can import it13:55
specialI think we export 3.0, but you can import 4.013:56
specialiirc we export 3.0 because of bluetooth?13:56
specialhm, sometimes we export 2.1 because of bluetooth13:56
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AL13Nspecial: well, since i lost my sd and all backups, i'm doing what i can to get at least some contacts back13:59
specialouch13:59
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AL13Nplan is to use xslt to export to: http://pastebin.com/MA3Z2Cf514:01
AL13Nspecial: do you think this is enough to get it to import?14:01
specialseems reasonable14:01
specialonly one way to find out14:01
AL13Nheh14:01
AL13Nit's gonna take a while until i can generate a proper vcf of all the contacts though14:01
AL13Ndirty parsing .html files14:01
AL13Nthe sad part with the sd, is that i also lost my build chroots, my testing-development, etc...14:02
AL13Npics, videos too14:02
AL13Nthough i have most of those backupped on my server14:02
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pdanek1Jolla always activates display after pulling it out of charger, is it intentional feature? Do you really like it?14:32
stephgwhat's wrong with it pdanek1? I like to know something's happened...14:34
AJAX555I find it annoying14:34
EztranIt's pretty standard, really, annoying or no.14:34
AJAX555happens when starting to charge too14:34
stephgto be fair it does it on power events14:34
stephgAJAX555: yes14:34
stephg(and I'd rather have that and find out that the USB I've plugged it into isn't delivering power...)14:35
AJAX555I'd rather just hear a sound, and not both a sound and activated display14:35
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AJAX555anyway, that's just my opinion14:36
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tobiskiit's good to activate displqy so you can see.if anything has happened while charging. sms, email, missed calls14:50
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Anz_OsmAnd not loading maps any more.. any idea?15:46
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AL13Nspecial: in case you're interested, i got it working, i now have 70 contacts16:12
AL13Nok, i'll need to modify them abit and i lost the pictures, but still16:12
AL13Nit's something16:12
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AL13Nis it any use to have a class 10 microSD that could read at 80MB/s ? (sandisk)?16:50
pdanek1AL13N: I think Jolla will support such speed, but I find A-Data much better value vs price.16:53
AL13Nor does it get hotter than the lesser version16:53
AL13Npdanek1: in the shops that i checked, i could only find sandisk and samsung16:54
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pdanek1What do you think is better, swype to unlock screen or double-tap to unlock screen?17:02
pdanek1Sorry, not unlock, but to wake up screen (like on Jolla).17:03
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M4rtinKwhy not both ?17:10
M4rtinKprovided the hardware supports it ?17:10
M4rtinKpeople might have different preferences17:10
M4rtinKor even use cases17:10
pdanek1Sure, but to set up one of them.17:10
M4rtinKlike use with mittens17:11
pdanek1Which one would you prefer?17:11
M4rtinKor in a car17:11
pdanek1hm17:11
M4rtinKboth everywhere :D17:11
M4rtinKso I don't have to switch all the time :)17:11
pdanek1Because with double-tap, I'm getting a lot of unintended wake ups.17:11
M4rtinKdouble tap is good in that you don't have to check device orientation17:12
pdanek1But so I would do with swype I guess.17:12
M4rtinKbut might be harder to do for example in a moving vehicle17:12
M4rtinKswipe is just one movement17:12
M4rtinKetc.17:12
pdanek1M4rtinK: the swype is meant to any direction.17:12
M4rtinKBB10 has it only from bottom up IIRC17:12
FireFlyswipe requires you to somehow "activate" the screen first, no?17:12
M4rtinKnope17:13
M4rtinKon BB1017:13
FireFlyOh17:13
M4rtinKyou swipe from bottom up and thats it17:13
pdanek1FireFly: that's swipe to unlock, I speak about swipe to wake up17:13
FireFlyAh17:13
M4rtinKBTW, it is similar to Sailfish actually17:13
FireFlyYeah, I was going to say, it does sound similar17:13
M4rtinKas it is continuous17:13
M4rtinKso you can slide half way, check the time and then slide back to lock it again17:13
FireFlyI think I'd be fine with both, but I haven't had any issues with double-tap so far, so..17:13
FireFlythat's nice17:14
FireFlycertainly an improvement17:14
pdanek1lol17:17
M4rtinKI kinda wonder how they detect that17:17
pdanek1a thing came to my mind17:17
M4rtinKso that they don't run a detection algorithm all the time17:17
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pdanek1M4rtinK: Jolla is also aware of location where you touch/tap, you you double tap in different places, it won't unlock, only in same spot, so Jolla could detect it as well17:17
M4rtinKmost probably a special hardware or microcontroller that wakes up the device with an interrupt17:18
pdanek1you you -> if you17:18
M4rtinKthat's how the double tap works on the N9 IIRC17:18
pdanek1Does anyone still use pagers? :O17:18
M4rtinKthe accelerator itself can detect it and send an interrupt17:18
M4rtinK*accelerometer17:18
pdanek1Imagine you go to phone store and ask for a new pager.17:20
pdanek1o.O17:20
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AL13Npdanek1: your name rings a bell somewhere, but i can't place it17:50
AL13Nmaybe #lopsa ? or #mageia or maybe you're regular in #sailfishos17:51
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pdanek1Ad to interchangeable battery? Really? http://youtu.be/mzMUTrTYD9s18:53
FireFlysadly, it's a selling point18:57
FireFlyit shouldn't be18:57
pdanek1They should rather do hot-swap batteries.19:00
pdanek1And then advertise.19:00
pdanek1How much hot-swap was N900? Did you ever manage to exchange battery on N900 online?19:01
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pdanek1Hmm, I keep saying "was" while N900 is still very alive. :P19:06
ln-_some people do not recharge their phones when they have the chance, but only when the battery is flat... so i suppose their spare battery would always be empty too.19:08
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pdanek1:)19:15
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ShadowJKpdanek1, can be swapped with charger attached and custom software19:32
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pdanek1I do think that physical keyboard on phone will have its little comeback.19:59
pdanek1Same as mechanical keyboards have its comeback due to pro-gaming.20:00
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FireFlywhat would be the motivation for physical keyboards on phones?20:01
pdanek1Maybe more comfortable typing experience.20:03
FireFlyThat's not a "puller" in the same way as pro gaming, I think20:04
pdanek1Imagine physical keys, where each has little display + it is touch sensitive.20:04
pdanek1So the characters on physical keyboard can dynamically change.20:04
FireFlyreminds me of the optimus maximus20:05
pdanek1Just that optimus maximus isn't touch-sensitive.20:05
FireFlyI'd rather have real physical buttons20:05
pdanek1What makes them less real?20:05
pdanek1They're as real.20:06
ShadowJKyou dont want to as touch sensitive as the screen20:06
FireFly"touch-sensitive" to me sounds like you'd lose the tacit feedback20:06
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pdanek1FireFly: I don't think so.20:06
FireFlyor do you mean being able to swipe and things on top of a key, in addition to being able to press it?20:07
pdanek1Yes.20:07
FireFlyHm20:07
pdanek1It's already coming20:07
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pdanek1but not with display on each key :(20:07
FireFlyCould be interesting, but I don't see what you can do in such a small space20:07
pdanek1so text on key is fixed20:07
pdanek1not small space20:07
pdanek1keys are aware of each other20:07
FireFlyI think the display-on-key thing is more interesting than the touch-sensitivity-on-keyboard20:07
pdanek1so you can swipe over keys20:07
FireFlyHm20:07
FireFlydoesn't the spacing between keys cause issues?20:08
pdanek1seeems not, as BlackBerry has done it20:08
pdanek1I just wish other manufacturers would adopt it20:08
pdanek1FireFly: it's called BlackBerry Passport, release in September this year, but I wish it would have display on each key too.20:09
FireFlyOh, it's a phone20:10
FireFlyI was thinking full-size keyboard20:10
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FireFlywill be interesting to see what the reaction to it is, good to see innovation anyway20:11
pdanek1FireFly: I can see it possible on full sized keyboard too20:11
Nicd-I want the Nokia Communicator form factor back ;)20:11
pdanek1FireFly: so far people who have tried were very impressed but I guess we have too see20:11
FireFlyNicd-: clamshell form factor?20:12
Nicd-yes, but a big one. with a 1080p touch screen and full QWERTY20:13
Nicd-inside20:13
pdanek1Yea, we all do. :(20:13
FireFlythat would be sweet20:13
Nicd-and on the outside you could have a low power screen for notifications20:13
Nicd-and for answering calls20:14
pdanek1Nicd-: that's already on market20:14
pdanek1e-ink screen on back20:14
FireFlyLike the (3)DS/Pandora, except smaller and thinner20:14
pdanek1YotaPhone20:14
pdanek1and YotaPhone 2 is in development20:15
FireFlyI wonder if a clamshell TOH would be doable20:15
FireFlyI don't see any reason for it not to be20:15
Aciiddrill holes, attach leather20:15
Nicd-pdanek1: but it's not a flip phone20:16
Aciidhardleather would actually be neato20:16
Aciidhttps://boards.4chan.org/g/thread/42829817/for-those-who-use-jolla-phones-and-follow-their20:16
Aciidthis thread needs help20:16
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Nicd-that yotaphone is quite interesting, at least if someone ports sailfish for it20:17
FireFlysince when does 4chan print the thread title/whatever in the URL?20:17
Nicd-with control over the eink display20:17
AciidFireFly: it's a secret20:17
entilFireFly: (it's called a slug ;)20:18
FireFlyah20:18
entilSlug (web publishing) a user- and SEO-friendly short text used in a URL to identify and describe a resource20:18
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FireFlyI feel sorry for moot if 4chan is still a huge single-file PHP script, like the "leaked" version sometime last year20:19
FireFlybut I guess it's his choice20:19
pdanek1https://boards.4chan.org/g/thread/42829817/for-those-who-use-jolla-phones-and-follow-their --> "It's also getting swype keyboard in the next update in July." Is it? :O:O20:19
ShadowJKI thought he didn't do coding20:19
AciidFireFly: it's not the source leak is old as potatoes20:20
Nicd-pdanek1: it's not20:20
Aciidmoot has money, that site is running a full ad publishing system, theres no reason to have let it deprecate20:20
FireFlyAciid: oh20:21
ShadowJKis coda still with 4chan?20:21
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FireFlypdanek1: it's probably referencing the video some community member posted of their swype-y keyboard that they said they wouldn't release (at least not currently) for licensing/patent reasons20:22
FireFlyat least, that's what I'd guess20:22
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pdanek1FireFly: yea I saw the video, just got excited now that's it may be coming in official update :D20:23
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Nicd-pdanek1: it's not coming20:24
FireFlyWho knows? I think it's unlikely, but if it does, that's great20:24
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coderusi saw in some video next sailfish update will get widgets on lockscreen, maze device lock method, flash in browser, firefox apps in browser and usb otg! 100000%!21:07
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Nicd-and qwerty oh for all preorderers for free21:09
coderusno, qwerty toh is only shop feature, it's too high costs loss if gift for preorders21:11
coderus(inside info from jolla, sorry)21:11
ighea_why I can't have nice things :(21:12
coderusnice things for investors :)21:14
pdanek1coderus: is next update really getting that?21:15
pdanek1or it's joke? I never recognize21:15
Nicd-it's a joke21:15
Nicd-stop listening to people. they have already listed the things that are coming in the next update21:15
ighea_yes, and still no official red back cover toh21:16
Yanieldid you mean "poppy red"21:17
ighea_it is orange21:17
Yanielvermilion21:17
ighea_no no, there are only few colors for men and that is not clearly one of them. I say it is orange and so it shall also be. :(21:19
coderusvermilion? i see that word first time in my life, really! :D21:20
ighea_Only true red is the color of blood and please do not try to feed me anything about royal21:20
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FireFlySometimes I think I'm the only one who actually likes the colour of the LE TOH21:24
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ppthe color is "I spent 100e and all I got was this lousy t-shirt... And this lovely phone"21:25
pdanek1Is angry birds coming as native game to Jolla?21:27
pdanek1Since there was some partnership with Rovio, is it still valid?21:27
pdanek1Rovio was supposed to create some smart other halfs.21:28
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ighea_LE TOH, heh... it is the most expensive piece of plastic I have bought to the date, so far...21:29
coderuspp: you didn't spent 100e for toh and t-shirt, you invested 100e and got toh and t-shirt for free as "thank you gift"21:29
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ighea_and it still looks better than the white or optional aloe which I bought21:30
coderusJolla costs 399e in past, you bought it for 299e because you already invested 100e as preorder ;)21:31
coderustelling "i bought that le toh and t-shirt for 100e" is a lie21:31
coderusand i hate liars21:31
coderusbye21:31
FireFlytake it easy, people can make mistakes..21:35
pdanek1Rather find out, when is the Angry Birds other half coming out. :P21:36
specialour ship never leaks :>21:38
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pdanek1special: so it is coming! interesting21:42
specialthat is a strange interpretation21:43
special"never" and "tomorrow" would both be leaks, I'd say21:43
pdanek1:D21:44
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Yanielighea_: vermilion, crimson, scarlet, ...22:03
inte is there any way to review a detailed call log?22:05
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ppsome of the first one ringtones are pretty good too, I'm happy with my purchase :-)22:32
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mekluhmm, what the heck...23:10
mekluafter fiddling with some i18n stuff with my application, TextSwitch components no longer have the ball next to them23:11
mekluit's just empty23:11
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