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Londonnhello! Whether support for icq protocol Jolla? Maybe third party application08:59
Nicd-is ICQ still alive? o_O09:00
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LondonnOf course09:00
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ln-the disadvantage is that icq might not be monitored by nsa.09:02
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Nicd-ln-: but is probably monitored by FSB09:02
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LondonnI'm talking about the application their-party.  As well whatsap and mitakulu. But icq09:06
Nicd-well no, I don't know of any ICQ client for Sailfish09:06
Nicd-maybe someone will port Adium some day09:06
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Londonnor pidgin)09:08
Londonntelepathy09:08
Londonnwil be nice09:09
Londonn)09:09
LondonnAnd yet question. Will be the future management of access rights to applications?09:21
LondonnJolla09:21
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AardLondonn: by installing icq protocol providers for telepathy it should be possible to at least partially get icq support09:24
LondonnAard: i am not a developer09:25
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kimmolididn coderus made somekinf icq support somewhere?09:27
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Londonni dont known09:30
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coderusgrab this for icq: https://github.com/CODeRUS/haze-accounts-extensions10:23
coderusAard: special: is there any ETA when i can publish this ^ to harbour?10:24
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cxl000gexc, When I last investigated the compositor needs some changes to support Xwayland and a newer wayland version is also required10:30
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AL13N_jollaroaming seems to work well, and privider got me a 10eur deal for 1 week... 300mb10:38
AL13N_jolla:)10:38
rZrcxl000, great xwl on jolla ? i was curious why this isnt done yet ?10:43
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Sail0roh noez :(, reboot issue started again -.-11:40
Sail0rnow it crashes and shows the charging symbol even when no charger is connected11:40
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tigeliSail0r: charging symbol in homescreen?11:46
Sail0rnope chargingsymbol as phone is off and charger is connected11:46
Sail0r mmcblk1: error -110 transferring data, sector 7744248, nr 8, cmd response 0x900, card status 0x80000b0011:46
tigeliSail0r: does it have percenstage on that screen?11:47
Sail0rnope11:47
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tigeliSail0r: then it wants you to recharge the battery11:47
Sail0rso it thinks it's empty?11:47
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tigeliyes11:47
Sail0rbut after boot battery is at 83%11:47
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Sail0rso it might be a faulty battery?11:49
tigeliSail0r: strange.. you could try to reset the coulumb counter for taking out the battery for 10mins and then recharge it fully. Only time I've got the phone to act like that is when I've recharged it multiple short periods of time (like from 10->20%, and then again 10%-20%.. after I've taken out the battery and recharged it fully no reboots have occured)11:50
tigeliSail0r: could be that too.. but try that battery+recharge first11:50
tigelibattery out..11:50
Sail0rok11:50
Sail0rthank you11:50
Sail0rafter first crash it saif: kernel: [BAT]battery_warm = 111:54
Sail0rdoes that say something?11:54
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tigeliSail0r: not for me.. my guess would be as good as yours, not an hw-engineer :)11:55
tigeliSail0r: my guess would be that the battery was too warm ;)11:55
Sail0rhehe11:55
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Sail0ryeah, that's what I thought too but it does not feel warm ^^11:56
tigeliwell it could be false positive but better confirm that with some hw-people11:56
tigeliI could ask from them what does it mean11:56
Sail0rshould I send the whole journalctl for the crashes to care?11:57
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tigeliSail0r: grep -i smpl /var/log/systemboot.log does that show anything?12:00
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Sail0rnope12:02
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tigeliSail0r: that log should show what requested reboot etc..12:04
tigeliSail0r: eg. 20140718_134558 Shutdown: User Power Key12:04
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Sail0rhttp://fpaste.org/119230/14057715/12:06
Sail0rthe only lines for today12:06
tigelistrange12:06
Sail0ryep12:06
Sail0rjournalctl also just stops12:07
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tigelianyway, try taking out the battery for 10mins and reccharge the battery fully after it12:07
Sail0rok without powering on while charging?12:08
tigeliSail0r: you can power it12:08
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Sail0rok12:08
LondonnHow many native application for sailfish os in jolla store? (>100, > 1000 , > 10000)12:08
tigeliSail0r: I got my battery confused about it state with those 10->20% charges with car charger while doing handling some errands in the city (actually twice) and reboot stopped after I did that12:09
tigelibut it's really hard for guessing why something happens12:10
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Sail0rok, I started the short charging last week because I plugged it often to my laptop for developer mode12:11
Sail0rmaybe that's the issue12:11
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Nightmare__Londonn: i guess ~50012:17
Sail0rok 10mins gone plugged in battery12:18
Sail0rplugged in charger12:18
Sail0rcross fingers ;)12:18
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HartziLondonn Nightmare__ 242 in Jolla Store if I counted correctly. lets say +/-5.12:21
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Hartziincluding android apps12:22
Nightmare__Hartzi: was too lazy and just guessed the pages i had to scroll :D12:22
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Hartzi:D12:23
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Sail0randroid apps don't count ;)12:24
Nightmare__~1/3 android apps12:24
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Londonnthank you12:25
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gexchmm... no more side-swipe in the lock screen?14:58
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Sail0rgexc: yep15:29
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rkzis there a silica component for the alphabetic style picker in the people app?15:37
rkzor have any idea how its built?15:37
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rkzseems to be a lot a deprecated stuff still on the phone, so its hard to know which qml file to be looking in15:48
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narchieuh16:28
narchieso after my phone came back from optima16:28
narchiea grand total of 1 days until it started rebooting again16:28
narchieit's even worse this time - this is the second time I've had to reset my pin code just today16:28
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tigelinarchie: you might want to report back to care that what ever they did in the optima it did not help with the issue16:37
narchieI will16:40
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pdanekWhy all the dual-SIM phones are low-ends?17:55
pdanekWhy don't we see flagship dual-SIM devices?17:55
wmaronebecause the number of people who need dual sim support is relatively small17:58
Sail0rI prefer to have two phone18:02
Sail0rs18:02
ninnnuAlso, dual-sims don't really work with the American phone lock-in culture (instead of buying the phone separately, it's just part of the subscription-contract).18:02
Sail0rbecause I can shut the work phone off and let it stay at home ;)18:02
ninnnuAnd usually vendors want the flagship sell well in the USA18:02
EztranAnecdotally, many complaints I've seen of lack of dual-SIM are from developing countries - seems to be more common in some to use home/work SIMs etc.18:03
ninnnuEztran: More like "cheaper to call from this SIM to that friend"18:03
EztranSure.18:03
EztranCertainly here, I know almost nobody who has more than one SIM, and those that do tend to have an entry-level phone for the other SIM.18:04
Eztranand often the main device is a contracted flagship.18:06
Sail0r most people I know get a sim from work together with a second phone18:06
pdanekSure, but you can put the 2nd phone away.18:07
pdanekAnd just use 1 device.18:07
EztranPossibly the huge split between hefty contracts and PAYG?18:07
Sail0rnope because I want a strictly division between work and personal things18:07
Sail0rI don't want to get or see work mails while I am at holiday18:08
EztranRather reduces the point in another SIM slot when the phone is provider-locked.18:08
Eztranand flagships often being the devices which most get the 'pay by contract' treatment...18:09
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Sail0rI only had one phone with pay by contract18:10
Sail0rbecause most times you pay more then buying it yourself in germany18:10
EztranSame here. It was also the only one I found which appeared to cost less overall (actually the total cost was very similar).18:10
Sail0rand i never wanted the phones which where offered with the contract ;)18:10
EztranMmm, well, not just wanting the latest flagship is probably not that rare on this channel :)18:11
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rkzi thought dual sim was more an india/china type feature18:15
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Anz_kimmoli: 'stick and stone version' 😃 liked it. #just-saying20:14
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