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TMavicacybette: ping06:15
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cybetteTMavica: pong06:16
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tbrgood moaning06:17
cybettemorning tbr :)06:17
tbrhiho cybette06:17
* cybette had < 4 hr of sleep. night owl habits & working with HK time zone don't go well together06:19
tbrI can imagine06:21
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pdanek1You should move to HK.06:31
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Sail0rmorning everybody06:38
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meklumornin'06:39
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TMavicacybette: both facebook is me and amanda opened06:41
TMavicacybette: seem the time is too early for us..we still at working06:42
cybetteTMavica: I will ask to push back the time to 19:0006:43
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TMavicabut i 1900 have 3hk party, LOL06:44
TMavicatrouble now.06:44
Nicd-http://www.tizenexperts.com/2014/08/samsung-focusing-budget-tizen-phones-now-release-plans-samsung-z-sm-z910f-z130h-z130e/06:44
Nicd-"Samsung focusing on budget Tizen phones, No release plans for Samsung Z"06:45
TMavicacybette: no chance i can go 3hk party tonight instead of tomorrow??06:45
TMavicaso i can attend 2 party06:45
cybetteTMavica: 3HK part is tonight. community meetup is tomorrow. you can attend both :)06:47
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TMavicamy 3hk party is 13/8....06:48
TMavica3hk told mne06:48
TMavicame06:48
cybettereally? I thought it's only one night. let me check.06:50
TMavicamany night06:51
TMavica12/8 - 15/8 too..06:51
TMavicai am 13/806:51
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Kiranoshttp://jolla.com/zh-hk T minus 6mins06:53
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Nicd-congrats jolla! \o/06:55
ln-0 hours 0 minutes here06:55
TMavicaNicd: i go out 3 shop take a look06:55
TMavicaLOL06:55
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TMavica_Jollacybette: call me this07:07
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TMavica_Jolla_cybette: arrange me from tomorrow to tonight party, so i can discuss with marc how going tomorrow. lol07:12
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Stskeepstbr: hrrm, good old didn't look at calendar due to being on holiday, i personally won't be able to attend the meeting today, managed to get myself into a situation where i have to take care of kid in exactly that timeslot, damnit..07:14
cybetteTMavica_Jolla_: that's 3HK's party, I don't have a way to make the arrangements for 3HK07:14
TMavica_Jolla_ok07:14
* Stskeeps will have to make the next one07:15
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TMavica_Jolla_....07:16
cybettetbr, Stskeeps: oh darn it, the meeting. i might still be busy with HK launch stuff07:16
tbrStskeeps: will there be /any/ of the _promised_ updates from Jolla then? might as well cancel the meeting, as e.g. the licensing topic highly depends on jolla bothering to show up07:16
Stskeepstbr: let me just read the agenda again07:16
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tbrStskeeps: if you haven't read the email I sent you yet, then I'm going to cancel as updates were a main part07:17
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Stskeepswell, i'm pre-holiday-mailbox-processing sadly.. hrmmm07:18
tbrthat's why I didn't count on you reading the mailing list07:18
Stskeepsjust saw the reminder on twitter and realized i wasn't able to attend07:18
tbrI also sent reminders to other sailors last week07:18
Stskeepsnod07:19
* tbr proceeds to cancel the meeting then07:19
Stskeepssorry, i should organize myself better07:19
tbrwell it's not just about you07:19
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tbrpromises were made by sailors weeks ago07:20
tbrI reminded people a week ago07:20
TMavica_Jolla_cybette: so i cant attend both meeting and party, both is 190007:20
Stskeepswell, perhaps we should just wait 20 minutes and we can see who can attend07:21
Stskeepsjust sat down at desk practically so can chase up things better now..07:21
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Stskeepsi can probably prep some material for silica matter at least (just found piratepad with more elaboration)07:23
cybetteTMavica_Jolla_: the meetup time is not confirmed yet but you said 1700 is not good either.07:24
tbryou might as well send a canned statement to the mailing list, to be honest. I'd rather not see this devolve into MeeGo community office.07:24
Stskeepsunderstood07:24
tbrI sound upset, but it's more about being realistic here07:25
Stskeepsyeah07:25
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Stskeepsokay, perhaps it's better to just cancel then, it should be a discussion together, not statements, should be room to query deeper when something isn't clear..07:27
tbryes, also something that's not explicitly mentioned but fits the topic and I'd have brought it up: Tuukka found GPLv2 shell scripts in recovery and I wanted to know if there is public upstream anywhere07:28
Stskeepshrm, let me just check the checkout07:28
Stskeepsie the oss one07:29
tbrI briefly looked over the tarball and didn't see any name that sounded related, but I didn't unpack and grep07:29
tbrbtw: update8 tarball, at your convenience(!)07:30
* Stskeeps gets post-holiday stress07:30
Stskeeps:P07:30
Stskeepsit's gplv2 for sure but a bit problematic to build outside jolla obs, should be no reason why it couldn't be in a upstream repo for people to contribute to and improve07:30
Stskeepsno magic there, it's all shellscripts anyhow07:30
Stskeepsshould perhaps have an alternative build method that uses a scp to a jolla device or something.. now we sound like android07:31
tbrhehe07:31
Stskeepsokay.. so three to-dos: my part of updates for next meeting, silica responses (your questions are in etherpad fully or were they on a mailing list/blog with more extensive questions?), update8 tarball, recovery git repo07:32
Stskeeps.. that's four07:32
Stskeepswhat did i miss?07:32
Stskeeps.. read the previous meeting logs07:33
tbrthe silica item has a 1:1 copy on TJC07:33
Stskeepsokiedokie07:33
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tbrI'm sure there are plenty of actions/todo's from previous meetings that I missed as they were not tagged and I don't track ones that are not assigned to me actively.07:34
Stskeepsnod07:34
Stskeepsooi how's mqtt/push going, any blockers?07:35
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tbrI have a well working PoC/basic-use-case now: irssi notifications over MQTT to my Jolla07:35
tbrworks very well and is only sometimes broken as connman seems to hate my WLAN, maybe as I have IPv607:36
Stskeepswell connman hates all networks .. ;)07:36
tbras in: the whole device is offline although it pretends it's not07:36
Stskeepsgot multiple APs?07:36
tbrall APs have different SSIDs07:36
Stskeepsok07:37
tbrthere's "tbr" "tbr-5"(5GHz, not seen obviously on the Jolla) and "tbr-l"07:37
Stskeepstigeli: do we have monitoring on ipv6.jolla.com ?07:37
tbrI have connman tracing installed, would just need to enable persistent systemd.07:38
tbrlogs that is07:38
tigeliStskeeps: hmm, let me check.. can't remember for sure did I set it up07:38
tbrI did dump logs from around a loss of connectivity, but it didn't contain anything obvious, to me.07:38
Stskeeps.. why isn't my vim cursors working07:38
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tbrthe weird thing was: all routes were severed, v4 and v6, except a LAN route of the RA prefix. But there were also other failure modes.07:39
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tigeliStskeeps: not currently, I will setup some automation on those in near future07:40
Stskeepso07:41
Stskeepsk07:41
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tigeliStskeeps: though both instances which we have running look ok07:41
sharpneliOh Jolla. Thou hast let me down. Change a country -> totally wrong timezone selection when autosync time is on.07:41
sharpneliAlso no sounds yet again.07:41
tigeliStskeeps: and I would notice if they go down.. yes, I have ipv6 at home :D07:41
sharpneliI flew to Vancouver for siggraph and my Jolla went full Yolo and forced Toronto timezone.07:42
tigelisharpneli: that time is set by your operator07:42
sharpneliAlso no more precise selection of wifi access points so I cannot even access the wifi here :E07:42
sharpnelitigeli: Friend has same operator, android phone. Works perfectly.07:42
sharpneliWell "same". Different brands under same operator but naturally they map to the same canadian operator.07:43
sharpneliAs in Saunalahti and Elisa.07:43
TMavica_Jolla_how come the jolla girls not finland one.07:44
StskeepsTMavica_Jolla_: l10n?07:44
TMavica_Jolla_wt 10n07:44
Stskeepstbr: would be interesting to see output of connman test scripts when that happens i guess07:45
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ln-i visited germany in june, and one beautiful day my N9's clock autoupdated to february of the year 2027. how about that.07:46
tbrStskeeps: if you get me what I should run, then I can do it.07:46
Stskeepstbr: spotted this the other day btw, if you ever want to add it to the IoT experience: http://www.openbci.com/07:47
Stskeepstbr: ok, i'll have to get back to you on that07:47
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tbr*clicky*07:48
Stskeepsthe muscle activity comes to mind07:48
mekluTMavica_Jolla_: l10n = localization07:49
tigeliStskeeps: now both ipv6-instance have alarms enabled07:49
meklui18n = internationalization07:49
TMavica_Jolla_HongKonger07:50
TMavica_Jolla_lol07:50
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TMavica_Jolla_i dont want see hongkonger, i want see finnish, too boring for me07:50
tigelisharpneli: not the first time saunalahti/elisa would mess things up :D07:50
tbrStskeeps: interesting, but expensive07:52
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Stskeepsthere was some other kit i saw from somewhere too when i was looking into subvocalization..07:53
tbrthe BLE bit is nice07:53
sharpnelitigeli: The weird part is that it works on the android phone07:53
TMavica_Jolla_seem Jolla pay on so much in hong kong launch07:53
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Stskeepsreminds me that i need to look into what javispedro found regarding tizen BLE07:53
sharpneliBut yah. It's possible I attribute some faults of the operator to Jolla.07:54
tbrsharpneli: android might do more magic regarding determining your location07:54
tigeliStskeeps: ah, found nice problem with the ipv6-insatnces, has someone complained?-)07:54
Stskeepstigeli: i suspect tbr might have experienced a problem07:54
chem|stln-: there is one cell-tower in the south which is located in the databases 400km north of that position^^ try to get a gps fix with a-gps on that^^07:55
tbrtigeli: I only noticed recently that IPv6 became unreliable on the Jolla. It used to be my preferred connection method, but recently sometimes would not acquire the RA prefix07:55
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Nicd-tbr: you have an ISP that actually offers IPv6?07:57
tigelitbr: ok.. I've not experienced problems with RA's and ipv6.jolla.com does not really affect on that07:57
tbrNicd-: no, I do my own back-haul. :-(07:57
tigeliI also have to use he.net, sixxs has become unrealiable (at least the finnish pop)07:58
tbrcurrently from SixXS stockholm POP, but trying to find something better. That one sometimes has problems routing Google07:58
tigeliNicd-: there are few small operators in finland which do offer native ipv607:58
tbrI ditched the DNA SixXS pop years ago07:58
tigelitbr: he.net stockholm seems to be ok07:58
tbrsonera has the VDSL monopoly in this building :/07:58
tbrI'll be surprised if they even bother to participate in the National IPv6 launch next year07:59
Nicd-tigeli: only nebula for me, but it's really expensive07:59
Nicd-and for mobile I don't know any07:59
tbrNicd-: try sonera B2B for expensive... 120€ net per month, but would come with IPv6 native...08:00
tbrI've been probing my operator contacts and it seems there is no intention of rolling out IPv608:00
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tbrthis might only change if IoT suddenly _really_ becomes a massive hit AND cash cow for operators and customers will demand IPv608:01
tbrthen a few YEARS later it might arrive for consumers08:01
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pp_tbr: if all goes well .fi will do a ipv6 launch for consumers next year08:03
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pp_I understood the operators might actually do it08:03
tbrpp_: I was at the TREX workshop. Toothless government push. ISPs and operators won't sign up IMHO08:03
tigelitbr: I asked ipv6 to our office at technopolis, had to wait 2 months to get it :D08:05
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Siddei have not noticed any ipv6 problems with my jolla. I think08:05
ln-sonera B2B can be like 90€/month (+VAT 24%) for 2M/0.5 ADSL.08:05
tigelitbr: they had to upgrade bunch of routers (elisa)08:05
Siddewifi is not always so reliable08:05
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SiddeBut i use dhcppd at home08:05
tigeliSidde: we have a fix coming up for rsn ie problems with the wlan driver08:06
Siddethe only issue i've had is that it can't use temporary ipv6 addresses08:06
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dunpi have sonera 10/10 vdsl 0€/month08:07
tigeliit will not solve all the problems but at least the problems people having disconnect issues with various wlan ap's within same essid08:07
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Siddetigeli: great08:07
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tigeliSidde: I have bug about the temporary ipv6-addresses, not fixed yet but..08:08
tbrtigeli: heh, not surprised. even very very big transit carriers have only very few actual routers and serve other locations through L2 tunnels08:08
tigeliSidde: if you want temporary addresses you can manually edit the wifi-service-file under /var/lib/connman08:08
Siddei have not checked if it's still an issue with temp ipv6 addresses in a few month though08:08
Siddeso the issues i had before might be gone08:08
tigeliSidde: seems to work ok for me08:09
tbrhaving privacy addresses on by default would be great08:09
tbrno need to push out the EUI-64 all the time08:09
Siddetigeli: ok, it did not work at all in february or when i tried it08:09
tigeliSidde: I think we had still the old connman back then08:09
Siddetigeli: could be08:09
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Siddetbr: temp addresses can be a problem combined with SSH so i'd like to have a easily located setting for it08:10
pp_mosh?08:11
Siddean ssh server does not like it when the client swaps ip08:11
tbrSidde: why? temp addresses don't disable incoming SSH connections to your EUI-64 prefix and outbound active connections should prevent your privacy suffix from expiring08:11
tigelimosh08:11
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pp_and I'd suppose multipath tcp eventually08:12
tbrdoes mosh do IPv6 or even dual stack by now?08:12
Siddetbr: I've noticed that in Windows i loose the outbound connections08:12
tigelipp_: I fear it will become next ipv6 :D08:12
tbrSidde: you said "windows"08:13
Siddetbr: i don't have it enabled in linux so i've not tried it :D08:13
Siddetbr: yes, i know08:13
Siddetbr: i feel ashamed for it.08:13
Siddetbr: but i have a gaming pc at home...08:13
tbrI sometimes notice having 10 privacy suffices due to established TCP connections08:13
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tbrI have no idea though if connman tries to handle expiry itself or lets the kernel do it08:14
tbrmy non-embedded systems run mostly network-manager08:14
Siddeit's starting to get a bit easier to use ipv6 nowadays. But lots of utilities are still way off08:14
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Siddeopenssl client and server for example has no ipv6 support08:15
Siddeand lots of other tools i use for troubleshooting are missing support too.08:15
pp_their ebcdic/vms -compatible middleware layer probably doesn't support it08:15
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lainwir3dhi10:10
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Venemo_hey10:18
Venemo_which ambience is this? https://cdn.jolla.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/update_collection.jpg10:18
Stskeepsmoo Venemo_10:20
Venemo_heya Stskeeps :)10:20
tadzikKeira Black and Snow White in a blender? :o10:20
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Venemo_dunno, but I want that ambience10:20
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KiranosI use  grassroot recentluy10:28
Kiranoslike it very much10:28
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Nicd-I only use my own ambiences :P10:37
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Aciidkimmoli: lower hole #HYPE10:41
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Kiranoshow has the anticipation been in Hong Kong, has it been a silent introduction of jolla or has there been some hype ?11:39
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cybetteKiranos: big launch event with 3, see https://www.facebook.com/threeHK11:55
gogetahi cybette11:55
cybettehi gogeta :)11:55
gogetain vacation ?11:56
Nicd-nice, congrats cybette :) and all of you at jolla11:56
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cybettegogeta: just ended, back to work this week :P11:56
cybetteNicd-: thanks!11:56
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TMavica_Jolla_so ridiculous the talker in party, that 3 ppl only talk about android apps, really on912:03
gogeta?12:04
TMavica_Jolla_the jolla party, they found 3 ppl to introduce Jolla, and they only talk about android apps, example: android whatsapp12:05
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cybetteTMavica_Jolla_: are you at the party?12:09
TMavica_Jolla_no!12:09
TMavica_Jolla_i at tomorrow12:09
TMavica_Jolla_1 of my community girl is in there, she told me that12:09
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cybetteyeah ok I also just heard they extended the experience nights to more days due to the demand. however celebs and lucky draw etc. probably only today12:10
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TMavica_Jolla_o my god12:10
TMavica_Jolla_most of us cant allow go tonight12:11
TMavica_Jolla_amanda also no any date allow to go12:11
TMavica_Jolla_it is ridiculous12:11
TMavica_Jolla_she dont have any date to go12:11
TMavica_Jolla_and Jolla found some ppl that never use Jolla to talk12:12
cybettethat's one reason we are planning for the community meetup, it's independent of 3HK, and everyone welcome12:12
cybetteTMavica_Jolla_: are the people talking from 3HK or celebs or...?12:13
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TMavica_Jolla_from 3HK i think, a model or talker from somewhere that i dont know12:13
TMavica_Jolla_but they obviously dont know everything, included the pronounce of 'Jolla'12:14
TMavica_Jolla_it is funny12:14
KiranosTMavica_Jolla_: also there is no whatsapp in the jolla store (only community repo) whatsapp is a very heavily used app in asia12:14
entilyeah, wonder why that is12:14
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entilcoderus has done a wonderful job on the client, it deserves to be in the store12:15
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cybetteTMavica_Jolla_: well if you come to the meetup, you'll meet Marc and Jolla sailors, get better hands-on demos, etc. :)12:15
Kiranosso its not strange they talk about android apps , as alot of potensial new jolla owners are worried that they will be missing the usual apps they use day to day today12:15
entilso did the HK launch happen already? it's today?12:15
cybetteKiranos: depends on where in asia, LINE / WeChat maybe more popular12:15
TMavica_Jolla_3HK shouldnt choose ppl that dont know Jolla12:15
cybetteentil: yes, today! right now :)12:15
entilcongrats! :)12:16
TMavica_Jolla_entil: happening12:16
KiranosTMavica_Jolla_: jolla when first launched also had heavy focus on android app compatibilty12:16
KiranosI think its a stratigic and well thought trough before the event launch12:16
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TMavica_Jolla_a decision of 3HK.12:17
coderusentil: it have a lot of restricted api, and can't be published in harbour12:18
entilcoderus: I'm not sure I understand, do you distribute something binary-only as well?12:18
cybettekeep in mind what we (early adopters, devs, geeks) and general consumers look for in a phone can be quite different :)12:18
Kiranoscybette: indeed12:18
rigo_Hi all, I know this was discussed already. But can I suspend the update-software so it only updates the phone when on wifi instead of 3G? Is there a trick/update12:19
Kiranosrigo_: there is today an option to only search for updates once your on wifi12:19
Kiranosor WLAN12:19
Kiranosas it says12:19
rigo_thanks Kiranos, I'll find that option12:20
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Kiranosits in settings and in the new dedicated option for udpates12:21
TMavica_Jolla_250 hkd for toh in hk12:21
Kiranoshow much is that in € or $ ?12:21
tadzikheh, you type faster than me12:21
Kiranostoh is very expensive here in europe atleast :P12:21
cybetteabout 25 eur12:21
cybette1 eur approx 10 hkd12:22
KiranosI only have the original I cant motivate myself to buy a  piece of plastic for €25 :)12:22
tadzikyeah, same :)12:22
tadzikI'd rather have 25 beer than a different phone colour12:23
rigo_I bought one and my daughter said it was ugly and preferred the original one :)12:23
TMavica_Jolla_cybette: no12:23
rigo_tadzik: what about a TOH keyboard?12:23
TMavica_Jolla_cybette: 1 euro = 12 HKD12:23
tadzikrigo_: on that I could spend 25€, yes12:24
cybetteTMavica_Jolla_: 10.35 according to google :P12:24
TMavica_Jolla_o. cheaped12:24
gogetacybette: put some batteries12:24
gogetaon store12:24
TMavica_Jolla_before i see is 12..12:24
entilI have the basic black otherhalf and everyelse who has a jolla disses me for my phone looking like any other phone out there :<12:24
rigo_entil: good thing, they will run android exploits against it  :)12:25
tadzikheh12:25
KiranosI have the white otherhalf I like it12:25
entilI like the blackness of it12:26
Kiranosbut will probably not by a new otherhalf until it atleast is €9 or so for a toh without any function other than a new ambiance.. for a keyboard maybe €50 if it doesnt make the phone to thick12:26
tadzikpoppy red is nice, almost orange :}12:26
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entila sensor toh would be nice, with temperature and all sorts of stuff like that12:27
tadzikor a velcro half :o12:28
tadzikthough un-velcroing it might just remove OH altogether12:28
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cybettegogeta: I've been wanting that as well. will poke around12:33
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coderuschina vote here: https://together.jolla.com/question/53191/android-ucbrowser-crashing/12:46
TMavica_Jollacybette: i going meet marc12:47
cybetteTMavica_Jolla: \o/12:49
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SK_workTMavica_Jolla: emotion emotion :)12:52
TMavica_Jolla。。12:52
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narchie1 soooo12:57
narchie12 weeks in after battery change12:58
narchie1first reboot just happened12:58
narchie1and again12:58
narchie1oh wow12:58
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narchie1here we go again12:58
narchie14%12:59
narchie1reboot12:59
narchie1and again12:59
Aciidnarchie1: check pm12:59
Kiranosnarchie1: I have fixed my reboots by disabling wifi and only using 3g as data source13:01
narchie1wifi is off13:01
Kiranosok :(13:01
Kiranosmine began to reboot a couple of updates ago never had any issues before that13:01
tadzikdo you guys have a piece of paper in there?13:01
narchie1had tape installed by optima©13:02
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Aciidnarchie1: stop installing facebook apps13:03
tadzikdo they reboot your phone? :o13:04
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narchie1he's just trolling me13:04
Aciidtadzik: they consume some what 100mb dalvik memory13:05
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Aciidnarchie: come to ruskeasuo shell, ill beat your ass up13:05
Aciidfor using non-free software13:05
tadzikAciid: well, you deserve 20% less ram for installing a facebook app ;o13:05
tadzikor 10% or whatever13:05
AciidI don't even own a facebook account13:05
Aciidplease13:06
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TMavica_Jolla_dinner with marc now13:17
AciidTMavica_Jolla_: remember to tell him that our phones keep still rebooting13:17
Aciidthanks13:17
TMavica_Jolla_...lol13:18
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narchieyeah13:19
tadzikwhy. It'll make him sad, and it won't help you13:19
Stskeepsmight get him a hug though :)13:20
TMavica_Jolla_lent a lighter for marc smoke13:20
TMavica_Jolla_lol13:20
Kiranoshaha13:20
AciidTMavica_Jolla_: so you are actually blogging here about your day with marc13:22
Aciidcute13:22
TMavica_Jolla_sure13:22
StskeepsAciid: have you contacted care re your reboot issues?13:23
entilI sent him a congrats sms when you told me about the launch :>13:23
AciidStskeeps: fixed mine with the paper-trick13:23
AciidStskeeps: narchie has had his jolla in repair for 3 times now13:23
Stskeeps:nod:13:23
tbrpeople should try cleaning contacts, it helps more than the paper13:24
Stskeepsooi, it shouldn't be difficult to make a humidity sensor toh should it?13:24
Stskeepsi occasionally wonder how humid my phone really gets when dealing with a sweaty man like myself13:25
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tadzikStskeeps: would it automatically switch to an Underwater Ambiance? :P13:25
Stskeepsnah, mer background :>13:25
tadzikheh13:25
Venemo_so13:28
Venemo_does anyone know how I can get this ambience? https://cdn.jolla.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/update_collection.jpg13:28
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TMavica_Jolla_https://mobile.twitter.com/TMavica/status/49918736913676288013:39
StskeepsTMavica_Jolla_: is that the irish bar near the jolla office?13:40
TMavica_Jolla_no. in wai chai13:40
Stskeepsah13:40
SK_workthey are in HK :)13:40
Stskeepswell, there's an irish bar near the cyberport offices13:41
Stskeeps:P13:41
SK_work:D13:41
TMavica_Jolla_SK_work: i am having dinner with them13:41
* Stskeeps looks forward to going to HK again some day13:41
SK_workTMavica_Jolla_: I know :)13:42
TMavica_Jolla_lol13:42
TMavica_Jolla_i am on air talk,lol13:42
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TMavica_Jolla_coderus: marc talking about u13:49
Aciidprobably talking about the great flashlight-app and how its bringing us all together13:49
Aciidand how everyone should be able to choose whetherornot to include 3rd party tracking code in their apps13:50
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gabriel9anyone knows will sailfish work on this: http://oneplus.net/14:10
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Aciidgabriel9: let us know when it ships14:11
gabriel9hell, i dont know how to get one :D14:11
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Aciidthen I dont think anyone can answer your question14:11
Aciidcant port anything without having something to port it on14:11
gabriel9makes sanse14:12
gabriel9sense*14:12
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gabriel9i just want to know how the hell is price that low $29914:13
gabriel9or i am out of sync with mobile industry :/14:13
gabriel9and this is normal14:13
kimmoliAciid: :p14:15
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locusfgabriel9: its in progress14:17
gabriel9make sanse, but it is still cheap for that hardware14:19
gabriel9ok, my jolla got burn screen14:19
gabriel9some yellow circle on right side14:19
kimmoliTMavica_Jolla_ is so in flames :)14:19
TMavica_Jolla_lol14:20
gabriel9is this covered with waranty?14:20
TMavica_Jolla_how come got cigarette but no lighter14:20
kimmolihappens...14:21
tadzikyou need a lighter OH14:21
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coderusentil: binary-only what?14:24
coderusits FOSS project14:24
coderusTMavica_Jolla_: lol. talking what?14:24
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TMavica_Jolla_mitakuuluu14:25
coderusTMavica_Jolla_: ask him please, i want to move to finland and work in Jolla, i can work just for eat and live first time :)14:25
TMavica_Jolla_...14:25
Stskeepswe do have good beanbags..14:25
kimmolicoderus: :)14:25
TMavica_Jolla_wait14:25
kimmoliand lots of free space14:25
TMavica_Jolla_i try14:25
kimmoliStskeeps: beanbags, good for eat and sleep ?14:27
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TMavica_Jolla_coderus. marc thinking how answer u14:29
TMavica_Jolla_he doesnt remember the story, lol14:29
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TMavica_Jolla_i just show this conversation to him14:30
coderusi just want to work in Jolla, but first time i tried there are wasnt any chance to hire anybody14:30
coderussome bad situation, something similar14:31
coderusshow this one: https://twitter.com/MarcDillonDotFi/status/45855284630127411214:31
coderushope he remember14:31
TMavica_Jolla_....this is not too convience do this for me to him14:32
TMavica_Jolla_lol14:32
coderus:D:14:32
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coderusjust you near marc, not me :D14:32
TMavica_Jolla_too embarrassing for me, lol14:33
coderusplease ^____^14:33
KiranosTMavica_Jolla_: just ask about keyboard toh I'm sure he has'nt heard that question in a while :P14:36
coderusTMavica_Jolla_: just show this tweet from him to me, it help to remember :) https://twitter.com/MarcDillonDotFi/status/45855284630127411214:37
TMavica_Jolla_......14:38
TMavica_Jolla_too hard for me. lol14:38
coderusTMavica_Jolla_: okay, i'll just tweet him, just ask to check twitter :D14:39
coderusoaky?14:39
KiranosTMavica_Jolla_: another serious question would be about the "maps" app the official gps, what the upcoming plans is for that app14:40
Kiranosits missing speech turn by turn14:40
gexcno contract-free jollas in HK?14:41
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TMavica_Jolla_i not a bug reporter now, lol14:43
Nicd-poor marc, can't even go to a bar without being hassled with questions :P14:44
Hartzilife is tough14:45
Hartziespecially for a sailor14:45
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kimmoliTMavica_Jolla_: But you can pass congrats for conquering HK from me14:48
TMavica_Jolla_ok14:50
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coderusvery important tjc with no attention: https://together.jolla.com/question/46463/android-apps-sound-has-a-delay/14:50
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TMavica_Jolla_nice talk with marc tonight16:16
TMavica_Jolla_but tomorrow meet him again, lol16:16
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cybetteTMavica_Jolla: great! :D16:26
TMavica_Jollalol16:26
TMavica_Jollawe will meet tomorrow again16:27
coderusTMavica_Jolla: please ask for me ^_^16:27
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TMavica_Jollalol..16:27
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coderus._. please16:32
coderusask if he wont check twitter til tomorrow16:32
TMavica_Jollahe has chk but not reply u, lol16:33
coderus :O awwww...16:34
TMavica_Jollahahaha16:34
TMavica_Jollahe just said hv a story, but i havent ask deeply16:35
TMavica_Jollai said u are god amd expert, i already do my best16:35
TMavica_Jollatry tomorrow again16:35
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coderusi just want to be sure he remember this story16:37
coderusand it's okay16:37
coderusyou can simply ask to let know when jolla can hire :)16:37
coderusnothing personal ;)16:37
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TMavica_Jollaok. see see tomorrow16:39
coderusand i'll go for tickets to Finland then :D16:40
TMavica_Jollalol16:40
coderusreally :D16:40
TMavica_Jollai also want u be in16:41
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coderusi have all my clothes and other things already in boxes ready to move :D16:43
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cvp_hi :)19:06
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kimmolicoderus: ping when in Finland, i own you a beer :) or two19:10
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Sail0rhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/08/12/google_leaves_stupid_vuln_on_nest_devices/19:13
Stskeepsyou call it vulnerability, i call it opportunity..19:14
Stskeeps:P19:14
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Morpog_PCSailfishOS on Nest? :D19:15
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juicemekimmoli, hiya :)19:15
juicemejust got the TOHOLED today, as I came back from holidayts19:16
kimmolijuiceme: hiu219:16
Sail0rStskeeps: lol ;)19:16
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juicemeit had been sitting in my inbox for some time...19:16
kimmoliseems so...19:17
kimmolijuiceme: ##kimmoli-tohs19:17
juicemethe finishing of the TOH is exquisite, I like the rough feel of the plastic19:17
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juicemekimmoli, thanks19:17
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coderuskimmoli: ok :)19:38
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Nightmare__https://together.jolla.com/question/36261/add-multiple-wlan-wifi-networks-with-same-ssid/ <-- vote :)19:52
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